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DOHC wrote:kalo ane... teutep... utk 4X4 mahh jangan yg tanggung.... land rover defender.... cakepp, gagah, machooo, kuat lagii....

akuur deee.. :frm_tumbright:
defender, G-class... wuih... :frm_tumbright:
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€lj€p€ wrote:kalau saya tertarik dengan Q5.. kelihatannya dimensinya "pasti pas"...
beuh.. sama pak.. kalo saya mah sekalian Q7 :mrgreen:
Menurut saya Q7 garisnya kurang enak dipandang..ada bagian yang rasanya gak nyambung.. heheeeee
Kalau mau besar ya LR Discovery lah..
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gw bantu ngeramein dikit ya..tapi ga baru2..

lc vxr 80 97
mesin hp/torque bagus utk 4.2 1hdt. blm cmnrail.
Fc bagus 1:10 kombinasi, bio/solar ok.
(a/t) transmisinya agak kasar dikit pas pindah (mungkin mobil lain ga)
ada kulkas.
a/c double. yg belakang kadang2 suka kumat. lalu pipa a/c belakang masih kelihatan, jadi kalo mau nyebrang ke row belakang hrs agak2 hati2.
electric front seat r/l.
suspensi berhuubung wkt itu udah ganti, jadi agak rigid dikit.
mau h4 tinggal pencet.

lc vx80 95
power sama kyk di atas. fc kurang lebih sama. m/t. no kulkas. headlight batok masih terpisah/beling, lampu lebih terang. Cuma keliatan tua.
blm electric seat, no kulkas. double a/c.
shock setelah bebrp tahun melemah, terutama yg blakang.
kaki2 rigid.
mt/at masih pake fr wheel hub lock.
interior/seat kulit. bentuk dashboard lumayanlah utk jamannya.
lari 150-160kmh stabil.
velg std 16 uk ban std kalo ga salah 265/70
rem depan disc, blakang tromol. udah abs kalo ga lupa.
suara diesel cukup halus.
asap idle terlihat, kalo narik agak tebel.
kalo service biasa antara 500-1jt, kalo besar mungkin sampe 2jt. bukan di a2k.

lc sahara
1hd fte. hp 190/torque 420nm? utk mobil 2ton lebih gini, cukup enak.
a/t d5. transmisi lumayan halus
pake 2 aki.
ada kulkas. Seat depan electric.
a/c double. yg belakang kadang jg suka kumat. tapi pipa a/c sudah hidden.
shock masih conventional (beda dgn vx100 ltd), tp kuat.
kaki udah independent.
udah ga ada wheel hub lock.
double din tape, ada satnav dvd (tapi ga kepake), ada changer.
masuk kunci, stir akan turun sendiri, kunci dikeluarin stir akan narik lalu ke atas (seperti jaguar).
ada cruise control.
all disc brakes. abs, kurang tau soal ebd. harus nya perlu ada ebd. pastinya rem lebih bagus dari yg 80series.
velg std 17, ban 265/65 *cmiiw*
headlight blm diamond/clear cut spt vx100ltd.
fc 1:10 kurang lebih. bio/solar ok, ga pk pertadex.
suspensi lembut, lebih empuk dari camry baru/lama, tapi ga seempuk harrier. nyamanlah. damper juga bagus.
kalo lari kenceng, lalu tiba2 ada gelombang turunan, mobil ga lsg terbang drop. stabil.
service kurang lebih 500-2jt, no a2k.
suara diesel luar/dalam halus.
asap idle ga ada, asap drag/accel sangat tipis.
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:D :D wah mobil gede2 amat yak :D :D
vx100 yang umum depannya IFS..yang ostralian sama yang GXV v8 kl ga salah rigid axle...atau terbalik..
kalo di qatar vx sih ngga gede..banyak american suv..yukon, tahoe, denali..blon lagi yang pickup, dodge ram Ford f150 dsb...hummer...itu vx jadi kecil banget disebelah hummer baru sadar gue..heheh
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kalo ngeliat kolong sahara (oz) udah independent. kayaknya yg rigid yg type 105 ya?
yah kalo di negara2 unta sana mah, emang biasa. wkt itu di abu dhabi vx begini kayaknya biasa2 aja. di dubai vx200 buat sahara tour utk tourist jadi rally spt dakkar.

disana kan jalan besar2. aspal bagus, kenapa ya, kok aspal sana mengkilat, bingung...
hummer emang gedelah, tapi kayaknya lebar banget. cuma liat dlmnya agak sempit ya..mungkin krn dia agak gepeng tapi kolong nya lega.
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di sudan vxnya banyakan disel...kalo di qatar bensin semua...bensin murah jadi ga pada pake solar...rata2 v8...:D :D
aspalnya bagus, karena tanah gurun kan padat...jadi ngga gampang ambles kaya di indonesia yang banyak tanah merah, banyak gerakan (tektonik) dan curah hujan tinggi...tambah lagi PU nya ga beres...komplit deh...heheheh

hummer emang lebar...dalemnya ga tau deh..mungkin aja sempit...mbl amerika gitu interiornya cenderung kaku2
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@iwang
di emirates bykan bensin yg seliweran..sama kayak di jordan.
aspal jordan kinclong bgt kalo malem.

sepi amat sih nih thread? :e-think:
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kayaknya kalian2 ini para musafir negeri onta yah...hehehe..... :upss: :upss:
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enak bener dengerin mobil lewat..banyakan v8 sih...hehehe..iya neh pak jalu...lagi di qatar..
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hooo qatar sih di airport nya aja hummer udah kayak angkot ngetem, hehehehehe...
ane dulu ke ke tripoli libya, disana nissan armada banyak juga euy.....tapi di saharanya sih ya gak jauh2 dr LC.
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tapi israel sama mesir, agak beda aspal nya..lho kok aspal... :big_slap:
israel banyakan liat lc..kalo mesir malah fiat kuno hahaha...

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wah armada..mobil itu besar..
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iya oom..nissan armada emang bongsor ..cuma saya yg masih bingung itu garis atap armada dr pilar a sampe c membulat....kebelakangnya rata, mungkin begitu kali bahasa desainnya,hehehe... :upss: :upss:
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hehe..kesannya jadi kayak dari dcab terus ditambahin plafon lagi ya? :e-think:

jgnkan armada, pfinder aja panjang bgt.
gw perhatiin dari sampingnya ada mirip xtrail/nvr pfinder.
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bener om...ky d cab tambah atap.....makanya bagi mata saya nissan titan dcab lbh enak dipandang, hehehe.....

btw saya pernah liat2 interior pthfinder...IMO legroom row keduanya agak sempit...apakah desain suv nissan rata2 begitu ?sebab sy naik nissan patrol duduk di belakang juga sempit, dan yg saya lihat di an-xtrail jg kurang lebih mirip2 lah row 2 gak terlalu luas legroomnya :ungg:
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new xtrel kliatan nya agak sempit... tp kalo pas di beres ane coba duduk sigh... ternyata ga terlalu sempit bro, perhatiin deh kursi di row 1... bagian blakangnya ada lengkungan... mirip ama di lipina... makanya itu yg bikin leg room nya agak luas...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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tadi jalan kaki ke karfur...ada nissan armada baru mau keluar parkir..emang gede bener yak...enak jg udah dua minggu ga liat kijang sama apanja sama apepe sama inopa sama honda jes...mata jadi bersih...heheheh
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ane jg coba duduk di an xtrel ya masih oke laah...magsud saya disini apakah pada umumnya desain legroom row 2 suv nissan pada umumnya kyk begitu.?? dlm arti legroom row 2 dirancang secukupnya saja supaya space bagasi bs lbh besar...?? :ungg:

mohon pencerahan dr om dohc ?? :e-pray: :e-pray:
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iwang wrote:tadi jalan kaki ke karfur...ada nissan armada baru mau keluar parkir..emang gede bener yak...enak jg udah dua minggu ga liat kijang sama apanja sama apepe sama inopa sama honda jes...mata jadi bersih...heheheh
bhuaawahawhaha...
jgn ke armada dulu deh, tuh pfinder lebih panjang dr lc.
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iwang wrote:tadi jalan kaki ke karfur...ada nissan armada baru mau keluar parkir..emang gede bener yak...enak jg udah dua minggu ga liat kijang sama apanja sama apepe sama inopa sama honda jes...mata jadi bersih...heheheh
halah2..di airport qatar, inova 2.7 msh banyak berkeliaran lho oom,hehehehe.... :upss: :upss:
dulu waktu ane transit di qatar disuruh nginep ke hotel...bayangan sih dr airport bakal dijemput sm camry...pas nongol ternyata jemputannya inova jg...wakakakaka... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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@jalu

xtrail 2nd row emang sempit. tp space bagasi biasa aja kok, ga luas2 amat. seinget gw di patrol malah agak lega 2nd row leg space nya.
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jalu wrote:
iwang wrote:tadi jalan kaki ke karfur...ada nissan armada baru mau keluar parkir..emang gede bener yak...enak jg udah dua minggu ga liat kijang sama apanja sama apepe sama inopa sama honda jes...mata jadi bersih...heheheh
halah2..di airport qatar, inova 2.7 msh banyak berkeliaran lho oom,hehehehe.... :upss: :upss:
dulu waktu ane transit di qatar disuruh nginep ke hotel...bayangan sih dr airport bakal dijemput sm camry...pas nongol ternyata jemputannya inova jg...wakakakaka... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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roadtrain99 wrote:@jalu

xtrail 2nd row emang sempit. tp space bagasi biasa aja kok, ga luas2 amat. seinget gw di patrol malah agak lega 2nd row leg space nya.
kok yg saya ngalamin kebalik ya..waktu di nissan patrol itu sempit banget...pas banget waktu itu duduk di row 2...akhirnya saya pindah ke tengah2 supaya dengkul bisa lebih leluasa krn gak terhalang sandaran jok depan.
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roadtrain99 wrote:
jalu wrote:
iwang wrote:tadi jalan kaki ke karfur...ada nissan armada baru mau keluar parkir..emang gede bener yak...enak jg udah dua minggu ga liat kijang sama apanja sama apepe sama inopa sama honda jes...mata jadi bersih...heheheh
halah2..di airport qatar, inova 2.7 msh banyak berkeliaran lho oom,hehehehe.... :upss: :upss:
dulu waktu ane transit di qatar disuruh nginep ke hotel...bayangan sih dr airport bakal dijemput sm camry...pas nongol ternyata jemputannya inova jg...wakakakaka... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
asli lucu nih jah jah jah jah jah jah :lol: ketawa gaya istri nya tigor ...
waktu itu saya jg cekikikan sendiri...lha wong dr rumah dianter ke bandara sukarno hatta pake inova...sampe di qatar ternyata yg jemput inova juga...(*gak ada perubahan nasib.... :upss: :upss: )
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kalau boleh kasih opini ;
utk compare nya memang lebih kepada peruntukan sejatinya SUV itu, apakah dipakai didalam kota dengan sesekali keluar kota dan touring off road ringan dan medium, ataukah dipakai utk memang sebagai kuda beban/working horse dan penjelajah sejati mulai dari kerja sehari-hari, dalam kota, luar kota, offroad ringan, sampai kategori off road berat. Tentu kita lah yang tahu mana yang betul-betul bisa kita harapkan sebagai pengertian SUV4WD itu sendiri. Penjelajah sejati idealnya tentu harus bisa kemana saja, murah perawatan-pemeliharaan dan juga mendapatkan spare part, efisien, dan bermesin Diesel yang juga siap melahap segala jenis solar. Dan rasanya yang representatif utk itu baik menjelajah di kota, desa, dan hutan belantara, rasanya susah utk mengalahkan reputasi TLC yang seri 40,45, 60, dan 80 khususnya.
Jadi tergantung kita maunya SUV itu mau dipakai buat apa sejatinya.
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suv sekarang sekelas lc80 up, perawatan ya ga bs dibilang murah. spr part availability/cost liat2 juga. tapi kalo dibilang kuat, memang kuat.
kalo sampe vx100/patrol mungkin solar biasa masih sanggup. tapi entah kalo yg vx200.
sebab diesel2 kecil spt nvr, ctv, udah kategory euro3.

btw, review lagi

nissan patrol 3.0 turbo diesel 2006
tenaga agak pas2an. tanjakkan curam terasa agak ngos2an.
ride: cukup enak, lumayan nyaman, stabil.
interior biasa2 aja, mungkin krn yg gw pk itu type yg biasa kali ya.
2nd row leg room lebih lebar dikit dari Lc 80/100
body masih berkesan boxy, bonet terkesan agak panjang ke depan.
dalam perkotaan masih cukup luwes (kalo udah terbiasa).
transmisi cukup halus.
suara mesin diesel dari dalam agak terdengar, tapi ga berisik.
asep knalpot, agak sedikit tajam aroma nya, mungkin krn solar oz udah bagus, atau krn memang pembakaran dari nissan nya seperti itu, sebab di navara pun hampir sama, spt jg di ctv diesel.