New! Toyota Corolla 10th Generation !!

[ktaufik]

BTW ...
Ada yang Punya Spy Shoot nya gak yah ???

[DigitALL]

Emang udah ada beritanya ?! Baru denger nih. Bung Conan, mungkin Anda dibutuhkan dan Anda siap beraksi lagi nih

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MUNGKIN BUNG DETEKTIF LAGI NYARI.............atau mungkin lagi kejar2an sama organisasi hitam itu?

( Tapi menurut saya setidaknya Corolla baru keluarnya paling cepat tahun 2006)

[DigitALL]

Kalo 2006 sih bentar lagi bung WP ! Ngga sabar liat modelnya. Kalo berubah radikal, bakal keren banget tuh !

[conan]

Hahahaha....aku belum pernah lihat spy pic untuk Corolla, karena Corolla itu bukan model yg 'exciting' tapi model berdesign 'aman' untuk menjamin penjualan jutaan unit. Don't expect anything 'radical', not going to happen.

Dan kalau sudah ada pun, percuma saja melihat pics terbaru Corolla Japan, karena yang akan dijual disini, lagi2, adalah 'Corolla made in Thailand' alias Altis...

[Herry]

Hahahaha....aku belum pernah lihat spy pic untuk Corolla, karena Corolla itu bukan model yg 'exciting' tapi model berdesign 'aman' untuk menjamin penjualan jutaan unit. Don't expect anything 'radical', not going to happen.

Dan kalau sudah ada pun, percuma saja melihat pics terbaru Corolla Japan, karena yang akan dijual disini, lagi2, adalah 'Corolla made in Thailand' alias Altis...

Nurut gue, justru design corolla altis versi Thailand/Philippine itu sedikit lebih radikal, keluar dari pakemnya corolla yg asli (versi jepang). Makanya motto altis kan break into style.

Beda dgn corolla versi Jepang, modelnya kuno dan super jelek makanya gak laku dijual dipasaran luar Jepang. Kebanyakan yg diakui sbg penerus corolla malah altis.

Justru kita beruntung karena yg diimport ke Indo adalah altis (versi Thailand) bukan corolla versi Jepang yg model mobil dungu. Bukankan begitu Mr. Conan??

[mpoezz]

apalagi dulu waktu iklan nya di tv yang pake brad pitt

[conan]

Well, sebagai sebuah sedan, Altis memiliki proporsi yang aneh. Terlalu tinggi, menyebabkan its side bodywork terlalu luas sehingga menyebabkan roda terlihat kecil. Kalau secara kosmetik sih OK ; fake wood panel etc.

Jika dibandingkan side-by-side dengan sebuah new Civic atau Lancer misalnya, akan terlihat bahwa Civic dan Lancer have a much more aggressive stance.

[WP]

Kalo Civic di sini sebenarnya design-nya sedan keluarga yg benar2 buat keluarga walaupun sekarang di-package jadi lebih sporty. Kalo Lancer yg awalnya design-nya sporty malah di-repackage jadi bertampang sedan family meskipun ga terlalu family. Kalo Corolla image-nya lebih ke family sedan yg (sekara) elegan tapi rupanya Toyota Astra maunya netral, makanya dikasih rims berdesign sporty 16 inch.. Jadi buat eksekutif muda ataupun keluarga cocok.

Kalo Mazda3 aslinya ini mobil sport-family sedan, dari design udah kelihatan Mazda ingin image sporty ada di produknya.

Kalo tentang motto 'BREAK INTO STYLE'-nya Corolla Altis, saya justru bilang bahwa Corolla tetaplah SEDAN KELUARGA, bukan berdesain SPORTY, tapi saya lihat justru potongan sedan mewah Jepang yg ada di Corolla Altis.....seperti tail-lampnya yg mirip2 Toyota Windom atau headlampnya yg sangat mirip Toyota MarkII.

[Herry]

Well, sebagai sebuah sedan, Altis memiliki proporsi yang aneh. Terlalu tinggi, menyebabkan its side bodywork terlalu luas sehingga menyebabkan roda terlihat kecil. Kalau secara kosmetik sih OK ; fake wood panel etc.

Jika dibandingkan side-by-side dengan sebuah new Civic atau Lancer misalnya, akan terlihat bahwa Civic dan Lancer have a much more aggressive stance.

Bung Conan, altis adalah sedan keluarga bukan sedan sport. Pada umum sedan keluarga sekarang yg paling ditawarkan sebagai kelebihan adalah kelegaan ruangnya. Gak heran kalo bentuk sedan keluarga sekarang gendut, krn untuk memberikan ruang yg lega dibanding sedan2 yg model lama yg langsing2. Liat aja sedan keluarga yg keluaran akhir, macam corolla altis, nissan sentra, new ford focus, dll semuanya udah gendut2.

Bahkan sport sedan macam Mazda 3 pun terlihat lebih gendut dibanding mazda protege yg lama.

Pertama kali liat altis emang terasa aneh, kog sedan modelnya gendut, tapi setelah liat dan mencobai sendiri baru terasa kelebihannya dibanding sedan lain macam civic dan lancer. Lama2 liat altis ok juga. Bagi gue altis masih acceptable, and market acceptable also.

[Herry]

Kalo tentang motto 'BREAK INTO STYLE'-nya Corolla Altis, saya justru bilang bahwa Corolla tetaplah SEDAN KELUARGA, bukan berdesain SPORTY, tapi saya lihat justru potongan sedan mewah Jepang yg ada di Corolla Altis.....seperti tail-lampnya yg mirip2 Toyota Windom atau headlampnya yg sangat mirip Toyota MarkII.

Maksudnya corolla altis udah ngalami redesign yg significant dari model2 yg lama, ada perubahan total yg lebih segar dan trendy dibanding model2 great sampai new corolla. Emang perubahan modelnya ngak segila mazda 3, yg emang dikhususkan sbg sporty sedan. Altis bagaimanapun bentuknya tetap disesuaikan sbg sedan keluarga jadi tetap keliatan kalemnya.

Tapi kalo dibandingkan corolla versi Jepang ya jauh donk, justru model corolla Jepang yg skrg itu kurang laku dipasaran dibanding altis yg terjual jutaan unit diseluruh dunia. Model corolla Jepang terlalu kaku dan aneh, gak ada bagusnya sama sekali, mungkin spt design mobil korea 5 th yg lalu.

[conan]

For 'family car', I would take a Wish over an Altis anyday.
'Sedan gendut' terkesan memaksa, sedangkan MPV jelas jauh lebih praktis.

Kalau di negara2 maju, bentuk sedan sudah mulai ditinggalkan untuk kategori family car dan lebih banyak bentuk hatchback, MPV, SUV, Touring dan kini crossover (R-class, BMW RFK). Sedan masih populer untuk mobil performance (ex: seri-3) dan mobil luxury (ex: S-class).

Hanya di Asia saja, di mana faktor 'gengsi' sebuah sedan masih sangat kuat. Sedan sekecil Honda City dan Vios? Ck ck ck...

And I think a Great Corolla is a classic design, and proportionally, it looks better than an Altis. Walaupun sudah berusia belasan tahun, masih terlihat bagus. Aku ragu belasan tahun dr sekarang, orang akan melihat Altis seperti Great sekarang.

There's something about a good design.

dibanding altis yg terjual jutaan unit diseluruh dunia.

Huh? I thought Altis is only sold in Asean and some East Asia countries.

Cmiiw but is there even an Altis in Europe, or USA, or Japan?

[Herry]

For 'family car', I would take a Wish over an Altis anyday.
'Sedan gendut' terkesan memaksa, sedangkan MPV jelas jauh lebih praktis.

Kalo gue sebaliknya, MPV emang lebih lega, tapi soal handling tetap lebih enak sedan. Bagi keluarga kecil (suami istri dan 1-2 anak), sedan kecil udah cukup. Sedan gendut itu konsekuensi dlm memberikan ruang yg lebih lega. Dan trend skrg ini family sedan cenderung gendut2 semua. Termasuk civic spt yg gue liat di thread yg u buat.

Kalau di negara2 maju, bentuk sedan sudah mulai ditinggalkan untuk kategori family car dan lebih banyak bentuk hatchback, MPV, SUV, Touring dan kini crossover (R-class, BMW RFK). Sedan masih populer untuk mobil performance (ex: seri-3) dan mobil luxury (ex: S-class).

Hanya di Asia saja, di mana faktor 'gengsi' sebuah sedan masih sangat kuat. Sedan sekecil Honda City dan Vios? Ck ck ck...

Gue rasa sedan tetap banyak dicari kog dinegara2 maju, terutama didaerah perkotaan. Cuman emang sedan kecil macam corolla kurang laku, karena tao sendiri deh, badan org2 bule kan umumnya gede2.

Untuk kawasan Asia, emang seh kebanyakan faktor gengsi lebih berpengaruh dalam membeli mobil. Krn itu jgn heran kalo muncul vios/city, disamping daya beli masy lebih rendah dari masy negara maju, ukuran tubuh org asia kan kecil2, masih cukuplah buat sedan mini sekelas vios dan city.

And I think a Great Corolla is a classic design, and proportionally, it looks better than an Altis. Walaupun sudah berusia belasan tahun, masih terlihat bagus. Aku ragu belasan tahun dr sekarang, orang akan melihat Altis seperti Great sekarang.

There's something about a good design.

For me, altis looks better. Looks more modern. Great just a history.

dibanding altis yg terjual jutaan unit diseluruh dunia.

Huh? I thought Altis is only sold in Asean and some East Asia countries.

Cmiiw but is there even an Altis in Europe, or USA, or Japan?

Sorry, gue kurang jelas kasih komentarnya. Setau gue Altis itu dijual diseluruh Asia (kecuali Jepang dan Korea), USA - Canada, Amerika Latin, dan negara2 Asia Pasifik, Sebagian negara di Timur Tengah.

Sedangkan Corolla (Japan version) dijual diJepang, Europe dan Australia, cmiiw.

[conan]

Btw Mr. Herry, aku baru menyadari, were we even talking about the same car when we talked about Corolla Japan?

Karena Altis sebenarnya adalah 9th-generation Corolla Japan (yang diluncurkan lebih dulu). Dimensinya sama persis karena menggunakan cetakan bodi yang sama (dikirim dari Jepang ke Thailand).
Lalu Toyota Thailand mengganti bentuk lampu depan dan lampu belakang dan menyebutnya Corolla Altis. Pada interior, pada Altis ditambahkan 'wood-look' plastic panels karena masyarakat Asean sangat suka kesan mewah kayu pada mobil mereka, even if the wood is just plastic.

Aku sudah tidak punya foto2 launching Corolla Japan (early 2001) karena sudah lama sekali, tapi aku masih ingat jelas bahwa bodinya dan interiornya sama persis. I found an old article with tiny pics and the then-new, 1.8L engine specs, though (look below).

http://www.sae.org/automag/globalvehicl ... lobal2.htm

You can see that even the interior is exactly the same (minus wood plastic panels).

Corolla moves into the new century

The all-new Corolla sedan for Japan and certain export markets.
Senior Managing Director Akihiko Saito, who is in charge of product engineering at Toyota, remarked some years ago when he was the chief engineer of the Corolla family of compact cars, that had the Corolla broken away from the parent company and become independent, the hypothetical Corolla Motor Corp. would have been the eleventh largest manufacture in the world. The positioning may be different today, with mergers, alliances, and affiliations taking place all over the world, but Saito's analogy indicates the scale of Corolla production and sales. The model is produced in 14 countries and sold in over 140. The aggregate production from the first-generation launched in 1966 up to autumn of 2000 is twenty-million units, surpassing VW's popular Golf and Ford's Model T.

Because of its sheer scale and volume, it has taken a whole generation's life - the norm is a four-year cycle - and in some cases more, to update all models in the world. For example, Corollas in the U.S., Europe, and Japan are different cars, in appearance and body types. Toyota intends to shorten the changeover process to two years to update the whole global family of the compact model. The recently announced Japanese Corolla is indicative of what will follow.

Toyota describes the development concept of the new Corolla as New Century Value (NCV), much as it called the Echo/Yaris/Vitz small-car platform family NBC. The NCV concept will produce more variants, the first of which will be a small multipurpose vehicle likely to succeed the current Spacio model in Japan.


The Fielder is a versatile station wagon version of the Corolla.

The NCV is based on a new platform, the Corolla sedan being 50 mm (2 in) longer and taller than its predecessor on which the current U.S. Corolla is based. The sedan is 4365 mm (172 in) long and 1470 mm (58 in) tall, while its overall width remains 1695 mm (67 in) - within Japan's small-car width limit of 1.7 m. The wheelbase is 2600 mm (103 in), or 135 mm (5.3 in) longer than that of its predecessor. The new range also includes a slightly longer and taller station wagon version called Fielder, which is a popular body type in Japan.

The car has gained in interior dimensions, notably the coupling distance (between the front and rear hip-points), which is 70 mm (2.8 in) longer at 885 mm (34.5 in). The sedan's trunk has gained 22 L (0.8 ft3) in its 428-L (15.1-ft3) volume. Curb mass ranges between the base 1.3-L sedan's 1010 kg (2230 lb) and the all-wheel-drive Fielder's 1240 kg (2730 lb).

Four engine types are offered in the new Corolla series. The 1ZZ-FE is a dual-overhead camshaft, 16-valve inline four displacing 1794 cm3. Shared with the U.S. Corolla, it is rated at 136 kW (100 hp) at 6000 rpm and 171 N*m (126 lb*ft) at 4200 rpm. The light-alloy NZ dual-overhead-camshaft, 16-valve, inline four-cylinder is offered in two displacement sizes: 1298 and 1496 cm3. They produce 65 kW (88 hp) at 6000 rpm and 123 N*m (91 lb*ft) at 4400 rpm and 81 kW (110 hp) at 6000 rpm and 143 N*m (105 lb*ft), respectively. These three engines are fitted with VVT-i, Toyota's continuously variable intake valve timing system.

The 2ZZ-GE is a "sports twin-cam" engine in the ZZ engine family. It obtains a displacement of 1.795 cm3 - 1 cm3 larger than the sister 1ZZ-FE - by enlarging the bore to 82.0 mm (3.23 in) and shortening the stroke to 85 mm (3.35 in) within the same block length, vs. the 1ZZ-FE's 79.0 x 91.5 mm (3.11 x 3.60 in) dimensions. This is achieved by the new aluminum linerless metal matrix composite (MMC) block casting. There is only 5.5 mm (0.22 in) of MMC between adjoining cylinders in the block. The big bore accommodates intake valves with a 34-mm (1.34-in) diameter, 2 mm (0.08 in) larger than the 1ZZ's and 29-mm (1.14-in) exhaust valves which are 1.5 mm (0.06 in) larger. The valves are inclined at an include angle of 43° vs. the 1ZZ's 33°.


The Corolla's well-appointed cabin has many soft-touch surfaces.
A single-stage roller chain of 8.0-mm (0.3-in) pitch drives the dual-overhead camshafts. The valvetrain combines the VVT-i continuously variable timing system with a Honda VTEC-like electronically controlled, cam profile switching mechanism, providing two timing and lift sets on both intake and exhaust. The naturally aspirated 2ZZ-GE produces 140 kW (190 hp) at 7600 rpm and 180 N*m (133 lb*ft) at 6800 rpm on a high 11.5:1 compression ratio.

Diesels account for a very small part of the whole passenger-car market in Japan, yet Toyota presses on with its compression ignition engine. The 3C-E is a single-overhead camshaft, eight-valve, swirl-chamber, indirect-injection four-cylinder that displaces 2184 cm3 and puts out 58 kW (79 hp) at 4400 rpm and 147 N*m (108 lb*ft) at 2400 rpm.

The Super ECT electronically controlled, four-speed automatic transmission is available with all engine types. A five-speed manual transmission is offered with the 1.5 and 1.8 VVT-i engines, while the 2ZZ-GE sports twin-cam 1.8 may be combined with a six-speed manual transmission. All-wheel-drive variants, offered with the gasoline engines except the sports 2ZZ-GE, employ a viscous-coupling transfer unit immediately ahead of the rear final drive.


The Corolla's 1ZZ-FE engine is fitted with VVT-i, Toyota's continuously variable intake valve timing system.
The Japanese Corolla's chassis is new. Its front suspension is by ubiquitous MacPherson struts with pressed steel lower L-arms. The front-wheel-drive model employs an adaptation of the "iota" beam axle used in the Japanese midsize Vista, which is a variation of the twist-beam with toe-control facility. The all-wheel-drive model also uses the Vista's compact short- and long-arm suspension. The 1.3- and 1.5-L gasoline engine, front-wheel-drive models are equipped with electric power steering, the assist motor acting on the upper steering column. All other models are fitted with engine-speed sensing hydraulic power steering. The standard brakes are a front ventilated disc/rear drum combination. The high-performance 2ZZ-GE and 1ZZ-FE front-wheel-drive versions equipped with vehicle stability control have an all-disc-brake system.

The Japanese Corolla is a nicely furnished and well-equipped car for its segment. The instrument panel is softly padded where most of its competitors use coated hard plastic or partially padded panels. There are three instrument designs: a straightforward analog display, a Silhouette backlit white dial variety with a tachometer, and an Optitron LED display found in more expensive Toyota cars.

The new platform will serve all models in the Corolla family including those produced in the U.S. and Europe.

[mpoezz]

berarti kesimpulan nya altis juga cetakan jepang nih

[Herry]

@ Mr. Conan, Thank's for your info

@ Mr. Mpoezz iya cetakan corolla (altis) asli dari Jepang. Kalo cetakan asli dari Indonesia ya avanza dan innova hehehehe....

[conan]

Next Corolla Is Shaping Up


he world's best-selling car is about to be reborn! Toyota's all-new Corolla is out on test ready for a 2006 launch, and this week's mag's pictures reveal how the design is an evolution of the current machine.

However, sources in Japan have told us the rear end is inspired by the home market-only family model, named 'Ist'. Three and five-door prototypes with disguised bodywork are lapping Germany's Nürburgring circuit, with engineers refining the suspension settings on the new platform underpinning the car.

Sitting on Toyota's recently developed 300N/MC chassis, the Corolla will also provide the basis for nine fresh models from the firm, including the next RAV4, Avensis and Previa. Insiders say the new design makes the 300N/MC the most versatile vehicle platform in the world

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An equally ambitious engine range is also being developed. Although a hybrid system based on the Prius isn't likely, there will be new direct-injection petrol motors and a selection of fresh diesels. Two oil-burning (Diesel) flagships will debut in 2007, both based around the acclaimed 2.2-litre turbodiesel. Buyers will get the choice of 148bhp or 175bhp, and the units will appear in the revised Avensis line-up as well. Power will be fed to the road via five or six-speed manual gearboxes, with a CVT semi-automatic also on offer.

A facelifted Corolla Verso is under development, too, but as the current car only recently hit the road, this won't appear until at least 2009. A concept hinting at the hatchback is expected at October's Tokyo Motor Show, although there's no word on prices yet.

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Yang saya tahu sih, di manapun saat ini Corolla sama saja. Di US, Walaupun bentuknya sama persis ALTIS, tapi ga ada nama 'ALTIS'nya. Di Thailand, di mana Toyota membangun basis produksinya untuk market Asia, nama 'ALTIS' bahkan sudah ada pada generasi NEW COROLLA. Cuma di Indonesia ga pakai 'ALTIS'.

Bung Conan betul sekali. Corolla Europe memang satu bodi dengan ALTIS. Bahkan New Corolla di Indonesia juga ada di sana, tapi lampunya da part eksterior lain beda. Salah satu tipenya di Eropa adalah yg dipakai buat basis COROLLA WRC. Di sana namanya Corolla Hatchback.

Buat generasi 'ALTIS', juga ada varian hatchback 5 dan 3 pintu, serta estate 5 pintu selain saloon 4 pintu. Interiornya hampir sama, bahkan cuma beda di fitur, seperti adanya sat-nav, audio yg beda, dll.

[ktaufik]

Jadi ... Mana nich ... Gambar the newest Corolla ?
Kapan luncur di Indonesia ?

Guwe mau bisnis ... Indent DO ahhh ..... he he he

Pasti Meledak lagi nich ....

[WP]

wah ada spekulan nih...

[edward]

Corolla mah ceruk pasar nya sempit,gak seperti Avanza atau Innova,yg dg cepat menjadi mobil sejuta umat?

[DigitALL]

Ngga juga ward. Emang kalo sama Avanza / Innova ceruk pasar Corolla masih kalah, karena msy sini sukanya mobil niaga / keluarga.

Tp Corolla sangat sukses di berbagai negara, termasuk Indonesia, laen lagi dgn Innova / Avanza yang hanya sukses di dalam negeri aja.

[A-dumb]

Tp Corolla sangat sukses di berbagai negara, termasuk Indonesia, laen lagi dgn Innova / Avanza yang hanya sukses di dalam negeri aja.

Tapi mungkin perlu di perhatikan, bahwa setiap region punya jenis corolla yang berbeda, sebagai contoh, corolla di Australia berbeda dengan corolla di Asia. Maklum Toyota, sebagaimana Ford adalah perusahaan multinasional dimana setiap region punya selera dan design masing2.

Saya pribadi berpendapat corolla Australia (yg juga Corolla Eropa) punya tampang lebih bagus dan lebih sporty dibandingkan corolla Asia (design sama sekali berbeda)....

[aidan]

Saya pribadi berpendapat corolla Australia (yg juga Corolla Eropa) punya tampang lebih bagus dan lebih sporty dibandingkan corolla Asia (design sama sekali berbeda)....

Kalo Corolla Amerika sama tuh sama Corolla Indonesia... Altis..

[ween]

menurut g, corolla yang paling keren itu corolla all new 1.8 yg punya nyokap gw (th 2000)(generasi 8?) terutama bentuk belakangnya....seksi bgt....bergaya ducktail gitu.....& lampu blkgnya manis bgt.....
sayang, kabinnya kurang hening, suara ban tembus ke kabin cukup keras......masih lebih senyap baleno g yang kelasnya lebih rendah dari corolla dgn ban tipe yang sama(potenza60 185/60vr14)
kalo avensis itu generasi penerus corona absolute? kenapa yah, di indo ga ada "corona avensis" gitu?padahal di luar indo di dia tugaskan untuk mengisi pasar yang berada di antara camry & corolla