Help: X-trail 2.0 VS Frontier Navara

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Help: X-trail 2.0 VS Frontier Navara

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Saya berencana mau beli mobil baru dengan dana 300an jt. Setelah berpikir lama, pilihannya antara Nissan Frontier Navara Vs. X-Trail 2.0 CVT. Minta bantuan para SMers untuk memberi masukan.

Pertimbangan Frontier Navara
Pro
- Sudah lama pengen punya double cab
- Macho, Cowo bgttt
- Fitur lengkap (Leather seat, HID)
Cons
- Takut kalo bangku belakang terlalu tegak dan kurang nyaman
- Pernah naik triton strada dan merasa suspensi keras, suara mesin kasar, peredaman jelek dan overall kurang nyaman. (Apakah frontier navara yg sesama double cabin juga begitu?)
- Pernah denger kalo frontier navara butuh solar DEX or bio-solar. Masalahnya di kota saya ga ada dua2nya

Pertimbangan X-trail
Pro
-Suspensi nyaman
-Interior lumayan mewah
-Pilihan yg aman
Cons
-Banyak kembarannya (temen main punya 1, saudara punya 1)
-Fitur minim (no HID, no Foglight, No Leather seat)

Karna dealer nissan di kota saya tidak ready stock frontier navara, maka saya tidak bisa melakukan test drive. Jadi saya minta bantuan para SMers untuk memberi masukan terutama ttg ride quality frontier navara. Kalo ada pilihan2 lain yg perlu dipertimbangkan juga welcome.Thx

Mobil2 lain yg masuk pertimbangan awal:
CRV - kurang suka modelnya kecuali kalo di modif
Pajero Sport - Model Kurang gagah, harga sudah naik alias mahal
Harrier bekas - Pilihan pertama tapi terlalu jauh di luar budget kecuali beli bekas tahun 2006 kebawah
CX-7 bekas - Ktatanya boros ???, bisa dapat dibawah 400jt ???
5 series E60 bekas - perawatan mahal
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menurut saya x-trail lebih praktis yah
lebih gesit juga
kalo navara sih macho bgt memang hehe
jok baris keduannya enak juga koq tapi posisi agak tegak saja
suka bawa barang? navara lebih lapang tapi awas keujanan dan dicolong hahaha makanya saya bilang x trail lebih praktis...
soal resale kayanya lebih cepet dilepas x trail yah dalam kondisi normal..
top speed di tol masih pegang x-trail
fitur2: navara memang menang hehehe

tinggal disesuaikan aja:
sering sendiri apa dgn keluarga?
sering ke jalan rusak or mostly city driving?
satu lagi yg paling penting: dalam hati kepengen yang mana?
kalo dah bisa jawab pertanyaan ke 3, faktor2 lain langsung ga significant hehe
orang biasa dengan teman-teman luar biasa
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Re: Help: X-trail 2.0 VS Frontier Navara

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Thx bro alvika untuk masukannya. Dalam hati sih pengen frontier navara, cuma takut kalo naikannya terlalu keras. Secara saya lebih sering sama keluarga. Kalo saja dealer di dekat saya ada test unit mungkin saya bisa lebih gampang memutuskan.

Bro alvika sendiri pernah mengendarai frontier navara? menurut bro alvika apakah mobil ini cukup nyaman kalo di pakai sebagai mobil sehari2 di dalam kota? Kalo baca dari thread sebelah sih katanya frontier navara bantingannya cukup nyaman daripada D-cab lainnya. Kalo saya sendiri sih jarang ke luar kota atau medan offroad. Bawa barang banyak juga jarang. Cuma pernah liat foto frontier navara di modif pake ban gede, bull bar dan bar di bak-nya gahar bgttt :frm_tumbleft:
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Wedeeewww........Navara duonk :P

Hehehe.....ane pernah bawa Navara temen, asli ketagihan!! suspensi mah jauh kalo dibandingin sama Strada....jauh lebih nyaman Navara,, kalo menurut ane ini mobil kekurangannya cuma di bangku row 2 yg kurang manusiawi :mrgreen: selebihnya sih oke bangetsss.....
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setuju ama meong...mantep navara.. :frm_tumbright:

ane tambahin kekurangannya yah, karena bongsor, ya kurang gesit lah, baik di U turn maupun mau parkir....dan mesti hati2 ama solar busuk


kalo bagasi belakang muatan penuh, respon suspensi di jalan jelek lebih enak..

kalo gak ada muatan, terasa lebih keras, tp tetap lebih baik dibanding dcab yglain..

output mesin, respon stir, rem, handling....asik bener untuk ukuran Dcab..sewaktu menyetir, gak terasa bawa mobil besar..
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kalo udah biasa mobil besar dan panjang, nyetir nvr ga terlalu masalah. lebih panjang dari Lc atau seri 7 il lama.

suspensi nvr cukup ok. kalo duduk di dpn lebih enak dr yg belakang, mungkin krn yg dibelakang seat nya mati. Per belakang jg masih daun. Tp overall masih cukup empuk kok.
peredam ok, suara diesel dr dalam cukup halus. apalagi ditambah peredam.
urusan tenaga heheh..okeh buanget. setau sy paling gede di kelas 2.5crdi dcab yg beredar di indo.
pk bio/solar biasa gpp, asal sering rawat tambah racun solar aja.
hid udah ada, tp kalo sy ngerasa kurang terang hid std nya.

xtrail NEW?? jg lumayan dlm nya udah beda dari yg lama. tp yg 2.0, klo ga salah m/t? hm...klo tenaga mungkin lebih enak jauh nvr.

kalo dcab kan ada tambahan urusan kir, lalu ga bisa sembarang jalanan.

tergantung selera yg mana bro, kalo ngebet ke nvr, ya udah. accesorries cover bak nya jg udah byk. kalo suka offroad jg byk yg udah dimodif.
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kalo mau setangguh navara, tapi nyaman untuk keluarga... hm... PS AT 4x4.. tapi harganya nambah 100jt lebih... :e-think:
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^
setangguh triton kalii..
nambah 100jt dari triton atau nvr? ps2wd pasaran brp?
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roadtrain99 wrote:^
setangguh triton kalii..
nambah 100jt dari triton atau nvr? ps2wd pasaran brp?
nambah 100 juta dari nvr kali ya om, kayanya navara kisaran 330-340 juta sedang PS 4x4 AT 440-an juta.

PS 4x2 sekitar 365-370 juta kalo ga salah (beda 4x2 AT ama 4x4 AT sekitar 70 juta gitu).

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oo..ok ok..
sayang ga masuk pathfinder nya...
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roadtrain99 wrote:oo..ok ok..
sayang ga masuk pathfinder nya...
hihihihihi.. pathfinder mah sekelas dengan pajero dan prado.. walau basisnya mirip navara... :mrgreen:
nissan rasanya gak punya SUV yang sekelas dengan PS dan fortie...
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lalu kalo nissan patrol rival sekelasnya apa om kopat ? :e-think:
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jalu wrote:lalu kalo nissan patrol rival sekelasnya apa om kopat ? :e-think:
rasanya ane pernah posting deh...
patrol, LC200 itu sekelas... di sini, kapasitas dan tenaga mesinnya sekelas..
turun dikit, ada pathfinder, pajero dan prado..
mediumnya ada PS, fortie, everest...
nah, kalo mininya ada Pajero IO/Pinin.. kurang tahu di merk lain...

kalo di CUV, xtrail, rav4, crv, outlander, captiva berebut kelas yang sama...
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^
p/finder kayaknya sih masih masuk kelas ps ya, tp ga tau deh kalo sekelas pajero & prado ya...
pajero bukannya selevel patrol & lc?

ada yg ketinggalan 1 utk kelas ps 42ner everest: panther grand touring
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panther mah ga masuk itungan bro, mesin nya aja paling jebot diantara tuh 3....
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Panther? Emang SUV gituuuu? :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
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yo i, panther mah bukan masuk itungan suv itu... tapi people carrier....


*yg tahan banting, awet, irit, resale value bagus, tarikan kebo, kuat di cekokin solar busuk indo, diesel sejati.....
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roadtrain99 wrote:^
p/finder kayaknya sih masih masuk kelas ps ya, tp ga tau deh kalo sekelas pajero & prado ya...
pajero bukannya selevel patrol & lc?

ada yg ketinggalan 1 utk kelas ps 42ner everest: panther grand touring
kalo dari seri top of the linenya, harga LC200 itu hampir 2x pajero dan prado. sayang patrol gak masuk. tapi kalo lihat2 di website UK dan AU, kelihatan patrol juga di atas PF...
salah satu pembedanya adalah dari dimensi dan kaki2.. kalo patrol yang baru masih pake rigid depan belakang. kurang tahu kalo LC200. tapi LC105 masih twin rigid axle.

kalo panther GT bisa aja sih disebut SUV. tapi sejauh ini yang ane anggap SUV itu kendaraan yang ada versi 4x4 low gear..
jadi seperti PS, fortie dan evie.. walau pun yang laku 4x2, tapi dia tetap ada versi 4x4 low gear. kalo panther GT kayaknya gak deh.
tapi kalo di jakarta (kurang tahu daerah lain) PS, evie sekelas dengan jazz, sirion... :frm_bang_head:
karena 3 huruf terakhir yang bagian tengahnya pake huruf F.. tapi fortie pake J yang sepertinya masuk kategori jip... :mrgreen:
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DOHC wrote:yo i, panther mah bukan masuk itungan suv itu... tapi people carrier....


*yg tahan banting, awet, irit, resale value bagus, tarikan kebo, kuat di cekokin solar busuk indo, diesel sejati.....
tapi ada lho diesel yang secepat panther (bukan isuzu panther), tapi bisa minum solar busuk di mana pun di belahan dunia*...
dieselnya landy defender :frm_tumbright:

*klaim pabrikan di website landrover...
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^
kalo lc, sejak yg 100 udah ga rigid lagi bro.

patrol memang di atas pf. pajero mungkin kalah di hrg dgn lc, tp kalo kelas size sih masih bs disamainlah..

klo dari suatu channel otomotif, istilah suv asalnya dr amrik utk sebutan jip. kalo di brit bilangnya 4wd atau 4x4. tp skrg ga semua mobil tinggi 4wd.
kelas harrier crv dll disebut suv, tp mungkin kalo yg into cars bgt nyebutnya cuv. cuma ya itu istilah doang, biar gampang jd diratain suv aja, media luar dalem byk nyebut nya gitu, paling banter mid-suv. kelas ps 42ner masih masuk mid..berarti yg full sekelas patrol lc?

3huruf terakhir di plat? ah blm tentu lah, jazz lama masih 2 huruf ga pake f..
di stnknya masuk minivan/microbus. aneh ya heheh..jelas2 sedan gitu..

panther sebutannya apa ya, pdhal diliat2 sama spt evie/ps, dari mobil bak jadi passenger, atau krn ga ada 4wd nya jadi mpv kayak kijang ya. klo sebutan indo paling dibilang kendaraan niaga...

hrsnya masuk pfinder..bagus mobilnya..panjang benerr..
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kalo landy lawas, mungkin iya..kalo yg anyar..wah...gw ga yakin ...(gejala oot nih kayaknya...)
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monggo dilihat di link ini http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/vehicl ... ission.htm
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nah gini nih bahasan yang seru yang bikin enak melekin SM berjam2 nonstop. apalagi datang raja2 SUV dan 4x4. makin seru aja ngebacanya.

lanjutkan om. :mrgreen:

om kopat kenapa pathfinder kelasnya disamakan dengan pajero bukan pajero sport? apa alasannya? apa ga mirip kasusnya xtrail dan pathfinder ama ford escape dan everest (cuman mungkin everest kondisi kelengkapan dan kemewahannya kalah jauh ama pathfinder?)?
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whoa..udah eu4, masih sanggup solar indo..

br ngeh defender nya..tukang keluar masuk kalimantan..
hebring jg yg udah anyar gini..kirain defender yg lama..designnya ga jauh beda dgn yg lawas, tapi masih tetep bagus ya..spt g klass. abadi. :frm_tumbleft:

torsi nya 360nm...*ngebayang dulu*..ctv 320, nvr 400..tenaganya..gedee..
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landy defender bagus bro , emang tuh salah satu mobil yg mesin nya ane paling kagum... dibuat utk kondisi perang kali tuh... tp jangan salah... harganya jg ajubileh bikin sakit perut liatnya... seken nya aja masi tinggi gt... padahal kalo diitung comfort sigh, nyaris kaga ad tuh mobil...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir: