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mang knapa bro mario ?? jebol radiator nya ?? coba di las aja dulu, ane punya kuat koq bekas dulu bocor...
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Kalo retak2 halus coba di lem besi aja bro..
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ini broo. jebol sih belom ( amit amit deh ) cuman rembesannya tambah gede nih. di bagian samping kiri radiator. udah gitu baut plug pembuangannya juga ane gk tenang nih pake yang skrg, karena waktu di ganti, baut yang barunya itu gk bisa masuk lurus, jadinya miirng ane paksa tapi rapet, takutnya malah tar sewaktu2 mental. kan repot. nah udah gitu hari ni ane mau ke cilangkap kira2 kuat gk ya????
air di reservoir udah ane penuhin dah.
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bawa sabun batangan ama sabun colek bro.... terdengar jayus tapi cukup ampuh in case ada apa2.... ama jangan lupa bawa air sejerigen...
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oh iya, caranya tuh sabun batangan ente sobek sbagian lalu teken dgn kuat2 ke bagian yg bocor... lalu templokin jg tuh sabun colek... ini cara lumayan ampuh in case kalo radiator mendadak bocor atau air nya ngocor lumayan deras... tapi ini sifat nya emergency doank logh yah....
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menurut saya jika radiator bocor lebih baik coba tambal aja dulu pake lem besi (contoh merek dextone), sedangkan jika tangki bensin bocor, sabun batangan & colek itu memang manjur.. :upss:
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tapi kakak pembina... dulu malah itu yg ane coba waktu radiator ane bocor di tengah jalan.... dan ntuh sabun2 an lumayan nolong ane selamat ampe rumah...
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Sabun memang berguna untuk keadaan darurat sewaktu radiator bocor. Sama juga dgn penggunaan air teh kental sebagai pengganti darurat kalo minyak rem bocor di tengah jalan.
Setau gw ada lem besi yg lebih kuat dr dextone, lem besi devcon.
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DOHC wrote:tapi kakak pembina... dulu malah itu yg ane coba waktu radiator ane bocor di tengah jalan.... dan ntuh sabun2 an lumayan nolong ane selamat ampe rumah...
hehehe...tenang boss...saya kan cuma memberi saran yang berbeda (pake lem besi). :big_peace:
BADAK wrote:Sabun memang berguna untuk keadaan darurat sewaktu radiator bocor. Sama juga dgn penggunaan air teh kental sebagai pengganti darurat kalo minyak rem bocor di tengah jalan.
Setau gw ada lem besi yg lebih kuat dr dextone, lem besi devcon.
om badax...pls dong kalo ada pic devcon diposting disini...... :ungg:
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broo.. ane udah beli laher buat panther yang belakang 2 pcs kodenya 30208. mereknya NTN. harganya kalo gk salah (ane lupa soalnya) RP.56000/buah. dia itu modelnya laher bambu ya???? kalo merek yang ane beli ini gmn broo menurut broo semua????
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tadi ane gk jadi ke cilangkap deh, gak berani broo.. jadi di undur haru jumat ni aja deh perginya, besok rencana mau service radiator, ganti laher belakang, ama ganti oli transmisi dan gardan dulu deh.
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m4rio wrote:tadi ane gk jadi ke cilangkap deh, gak berani broo.. jadi di undur haru jumat ni aja deh perginya, besok rencana mau service radiator, ganti laher belakang, ama ganti oli transmisi dan gardan dulu deh.
mar, klo radiator dah rembes n klo memungkinkan sebaiknya diganti baru aja........ biar ga bikin repot nantinya n biaya yg dikeluarkan ga dobel........... krn yg ane khawatirkan adalah bocor di kanan, nantinya bisa bocor di kiri dst........... :ungg:
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m4rio wrote:broo.. ane udah beli laher buat panther yang belakang 2 pcs kodenya 30208. mereknya NTN. harganya kalo gk salah (ane lupa soalnya) RP.56000/buah. dia itu modelnya laher bambu ya???? kalo merek yang ane beli ini gmn broo menurut broo semua????
Wah murah bro. Udah diliat apa NTN asli?
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BADAK wrote:
m4rio wrote:broo.. ane udah beli laher buat panther yang belakang 2 pcs kodenya 30208. mereknya NTN. harganya kalo gk salah (ane lupa soalnya) RP.56000/buah. dia itu modelnya laher bambu ya???? kalo merek yang ane beli ini gmn broo menurut broo semua????
Wah murah bro. Udah diliat apa NTN asli?
mank biasanya berapa broo??? ane belinya di glodok soalnya broo.
lha kyknya asli deh broo.
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radiator udah di service, musti ganti coolant nih, kyknya yang skrg ma tukang radiatornya di kasih air biasa aja deh.
beli yang prestone itu aja kali ya???? yang 1 liter punya. pake 2 botol deh.
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kalo ane di panther kaga kasi yg mahal2 punya... ane kasi yg murmer sperti megacool yg sgalon cuman 20an rebu, soalnya sayang jg gt nanti kalo ada bocor lagi trs kebuang gt... lain crita kalo mobil nya dari awal uda ane pakein coolant, baru deh, yg mahal jg ane jabanin tuh, biar makin awet....

btw, mesin diesel karena lingkungan kerja nya lebi berat, maka biasanya ane kuras radiator per 6 bulan skali...
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ane pernah broo, nyoba yang segalon gitu, tapi hasilnya gk lama di pake airnya udah keruh banget. trus ane ganti yang full konsentrat masih tetep bening tuh warna airnya, gk da kotoran gk da karat.
dan yang lebih penting broo. broo perhatikan deh, kalo di panther itu kan ada kopling fluida atau biasa di sebut viscous van, di bagian tengah kipas. nah kalau pake air radiator yang bagus maka kipas viscous akan melepas putaran kipas dengan mesin itu lebih lama, dan hasilnya suara mesin juga akan enak, karena kecepatan kipas tidak sama dengan putaran mesin. nah pada saat kipas berputar kan juga menghasilkan suara dari aliran anginnya, kalau kipas berputar lebih cepat suara yang dihasilkan akan semakin besar, begtiu juga sebaliknya.

ini berdasarkan pengalaman ane pribadi lohh....
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hmm... ane sigh uda pake galonan yg itu bertaon2, untung aja kaga ada masalah, dan aneh nya kalo di ane malah bening2 aja tuh warna nya... mungkin mobil ane tau diri kali, menyesuaikan diri ama kantong mahasiswa... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

nah kalo yg viscous fan itu ane masi kurang ngerti neh... kalo yg ane liat sigh di panther ane yg muterin tuh kipas gede di ruang msin itu cuman digerakin ama fan belt doank.... mungkin ada perbedaan kali ama panther kotak dan kapsul... walaupun mesin nya sama...
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kalo posisi mesin mati dan bilah kipas bisa diputer pake tangan...ya berarti itu visko fan.CMIIW
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lha ane juga mahasiswa loh broo.. jangan salah loh. hehehehehe
iya emang ama vanbelt doank, tapi coba deh liat di tengah2 kipas itu ada kyk semacam benda bulet lgi. ada gk?
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jalu wrote:kalo posisi mesin mati dan bilah kipas bisa diputer pake tangan...ya berarti itu visko fan.CMIIW
betul sekali itu, sangat betull..
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ohh ad bro, warna biru gt... ohh jadi itu toh si visco.... kegunaan nya apa yah bro...
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jalu wrote:om badax...pls dong kalo ada pic devcon diposting disini...... :ungg:
ini om pic nya, tapi gw sendiri gak tau seberapa kuat nih lem. Cuman kata tukang dinamo saya ini lebih kuat untuk besi.
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ternyata devcon juga sama yah model resin + hardener...thanks picnya om badak.... :frm_salut:
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DOHC wrote:ohh ad bro, warna biru gt... ohh jadi itu toh si visco.... kegunaan nya apa yah bro...
wuah kalo masalah warna mingkin beda kali ya.
itu fungsinya buat melepas kipas dengan putaran mesin, jadi kecepatan putaran kipas gk sama dengan putaran mesin, pada saat air radiator suhunya sudah tidak di anggapterlalu panas seperti pada saat baru keluar dari water jacket di blok mesin dan sebagainya pada saat thermostat terbuka. nah setelah mesin di anggap perlu pendinginan lebih pada saat air radiator baru keluar dari blok silinder dan sebagainya maka kipas visco akan menempel dengan putaran mesin sehingga didapatkan kecepatan aliran angin untuk mendinginkan. nah yang mengatur buka tutup ini sebenernya bimetal di tengah visco itu sendiri,dengan bantuan cairan yang bernama silicon yang ada di dalam visco itu sendiri.
jadi gini cara kerjanya, pada saat bimetal mendapat hawa panas dari radiator, maka bimetal akan membuka lubang yang di dalamnya dan otomatis cairan silicon akan keluar juga. nah cairan silicon inilah yang nantinya akan menyatukan putaran kipas dengan putaran mesin.
dengan kata lain kegunaannya adalah untuk mengurangi beban mesin, jadi mesin tidak selalu terbebani dengan putaran kipas ini. ya mungkin bisa di sebut juga mengurangi cooling lost kali ya????

hmm... ini menurut yang ane tau. dan apa yang ane telah ngalamin dan pelajari...

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kalau salah ya maap..