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BADAK wrote:Kalo brush starter n brush altenator mulai habis tuh gimana deteksi nya boss?
Trz gimana tuh solusinya kl sampe voltage naek lebih dr 12v?
hmm... gimana jelasinnye ya....... klo brush starter dah ga bagus, saat distarter jadi kurang gimanaaa gitu.... salah satunya adalah bunyi spt ck...ck..ck... gituuuu...... tp ini hanya salah satunya aja ya.....mungkin yg lain bisa membantu...... ...
klo brush alternator dah mulai habis bisa terdeteksi di lampu akinya ..... kadang2 nyala, kadang2 mati..... klo dah abis beneran, mk itu lampu akinya akan nyala terus yg bearti alternator ga bekerja dg normal...................
klo lebihnya cuma 2 volt aja spt di mbl diesel yg bisa mencapai 14,1 volt, masih dianggap normal............ nah yg mesti diperhatikan adalah jika voltage dah melewati 15 volt ( bahkan ane pernah menemukan bisa mencapai 17,5 volt ), sebaiknya dibawa ke tukang alternator............
Saya baca di depan bahwa ciri2 aki mulai rusak tandanya air aki sering drop. Aki saya justru airnya masih penuh terakhir isi 2 bulan lalu waktu servis di bengkel resmi. Mobil memang jarang dipake seminggu atau 2 minggu sekali tapi selama ini ok2 aja. Tadi pagi udah gak bisa start sama sekali. Dibawa ke tukang aki ternyata tinggal 7 volt dan katanya sel aki ada yang retak. Kok tidak ada tanda2 aki mau rusak ya?
tzalie wrote:Saya baca di depan bahwa ciri2 aki mulai rusak tandanya air aki sering drop. Aki saya justru airnya masih penuh terakhir isi 2 bulan lalu waktu servis di bengkel resmi. Mobil memang jarang dipake seminggu atau 2 minggu sekali tapi selama ini ok2 aja. Tadi pagi udah gak bisa start sama sekali. Dibawa ke tukang aki ternyata tinggal 7 volt dan katanya sel aki ada yang retak. Kok tidak ada tanda2 aki mau rusak ya?
Wah kalo ada sel aki yg retak kyk nya tuh kesalahan pabrik tuh. Mungkin bisa di claim garansi bro..
Btw aki nya merk apa? Sudah dipake brp lama? Mungkin boss saya bisa melakukan analisa..
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tzalie wrote:Saya baca di depan bahwa ciri2 aki mulai rusak tandanya air aki sering drop. Aki saya justru airnya masih penuh terakhir isi 2 bulan lalu waktu servis di bengkel resmi. Mobil memang jarang dipake seminggu atau 2 minggu sekali tapi selama ini ok2 aja. Tadi pagi udah gak bisa start sama sekali. Dibawa ke tukang aki ternyata tinggal 7 volt dan katanya sel aki ada yang retak. Kok tidak ada tanda2 aki mau rusak ya?
itu karena aki jarang dipake...... klo diliat dari penjelasan nt, ada kemungkinan aki cuma kehabisan stroom aja. Coba dulu disetroom..... trus liat kondisi berat jenis airnya (setelah disetroom).....dg menggunakan hydrometer tentunya......
tzalie wrote:Saya baca di depan bahwa ciri2 aki mulai rusak tandanya air aki sering drop. Aki saya justru airnya masih penuh terakhir isi 2 bulan lalu waktu servis di bengkel resmi. Mobil memang jarang dipake seminggu atau 2 minggu sekali tapi selama ini ok2 aja. Tadi pagi udah gak bisa start sama sekali. Dibawa ke tukang aki ternyata tinggal 7 volt dan katanya sel aki ada yang retak. Kok tidak ada tanda2 aki mau rusak ya?
itu karena aki jarang dipake...... klo diliat dari penjelasan nt, ada kemungkinan aki cuma kehabisan stroom aja. Coba dulu disetroom..... trus liat kondisi berat jenis airnya (setelah disetroom).....dg menggunakan hydrometer tentunya......
smoga bermanfaat...........
Udah gua jual om ganti baru tradisi selama ini kalo ngadat ya langsung ganti.....
nah ketemu juga ni tread...
nanya ah, waktu kemarin malam aku nyalain motor pake elektrik, eh cuma cekuuk cekuuk (kira-kira gt deh suaranya), ya udah terpaksa pake kaki (buru-buru). nah setelah muter-muter, aku tetep nyalain mesin dg lampu mati (15 menitan). keesokan harinya (pagi) aku nyalain pake elektrik, eh langsung nyala. kira-kira kenapa ya? apa ada jurus-jurus ampuh biar aki awet... (kalo bisa yang murah-murah)
thanks
oom ener pake aki apa neh d motornya??
klo aki konvensional(basah) biar awet, menurut primbon pak sjamsul....pada saat dalam keadaan baru beli, sebaiknya d charge selama kira2 12jam...trus d beri vitamin aki(powerbatt)...setelah itu cukup d rawat dengan cara menjaga ketinggian level air aki sesuai batas dan rutin membersihkan terminal aki agar tdk timbul kerak putih yg bsa mengganggu arus listrik.........
cieeehhhh........gaya bener gw ya
*sotoy mode:off*
btw mank akinya dah brapa lama tu umurnya oom?
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aki bawaan pabrik, tipe basah... biasanya sih mudah banget kalo nyetater, tp gara-gara kebijakan nyalaken lampu di siang hari, jadinya kayak kurang greget gt... trus seumpama nambahin air zuur... apa harus ada ritual-ritual dulu?
eNeR wrote:aki bawaan pabrik, tipe basah... biasanya sih mudah banget kalo nyetater, tp gara-gara kebijakan nyalaken lampu di siang hari, jadinya kayak kurang greget gt... trus seumpama nambahin air zuur... apa harus ada ritual-ritual dulu?
Yg ditambahin itu air aki bro, bukan air zuur.
air zuur hanya diisi pertama kali aki akan digunakan.
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eNeR wrote:nah ketemu juga ni tread...
nanya ah, waktu kemarin malam aku nyalain motor pake elektrik, eh cuma cekuuk cekuuk (kira-kira gt deh suaranya), ya udah terpaksa pake kaki (buru-buru). nah setelah muter-muter, aku tetep nyalain mesin dg lampu mati (15 menitan). keesokan harinya (pagi) aku nyalain pake elektrik, eh langsung nyala. kira-kira kenapa ya? apa ada jurus-jurus ampuh biar aki awet... (kalo bisa yang murah-murah)
thanks
hmm..... ada kemungkinan kepala akinya dah kotor, jadi mesti dibersihkan spy kontaknya jadi lbh bagus, shg aliran stroom dari kiprok ke aki bisa lancar n aki juga bisa kirim tenaga ke starter dg baik.........
dah pasti ada jurus2 spy aki awet.... salah satu jurus yg paling ampuh adalah 'jangan males' merawat aki...... spt membersihkan kepala aki n memeriksa air akinya...... jangan ampe kekurangan......klo ampe aki kekurangan air dlm jangka waktu yg cukup lama bisa memperpendek umur aki itu sendiri..............
smoga anak emak bisa memetik manfaat dari tulisan ane yg singkat ini................ ........
wah om sjam mantap bgt penjelasannya........gmn, udah diminum zuur nya ??.....................
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro
wah setelah diminum jadi makin tegang dong......(tegangan naik).......hihihi.......
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro
hebat...om sjam ini meski aki2 tapi sel2 nya masih bagus semua......... vitamin aki sepertinya bekerja dng baik.......
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro
nah yang ini mau nanya........ kenapa kalo musim dingin/di daerah dingin.....meski aki2 kondisinya bagus kok sering kejadian gak kuat start.....apakah ada pengaruh temperatur sekitar dng kinerja aki...............??
(dijawab serius boleh....OOT juga boleh...... )
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro
jalu wrote:nah yang ini mau nanya........ kenapa kalo musim dingin/di daerah dingin.....meski aki2 kondisinya bagus kok sering kejadian gak kuat start.....apakah ada pengaruh temperatur sekitar dng kinerja aki...............??
(dijawab serius boleh....OOT juga boleh...... )
ini untuk kasus mesin diesel atau bensin pak?
siapa tau ada kaitannya disitu atau malah ga ada hubungannya sama sekali
sekalian nunggu jawaban yg lebih professional
si vis pacem para bellum - si vis bellum para pacem - si vis pacem para pactum
de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum
listening before talking - reading before writing - doing before asking
umumnya saya temui di mbl diesel meneer....gak kuat start/crank di musim dingin
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro
Starting diesel engines during cold weather can be frustrating if engines are not properly prepared for lower temperatures. Batteries that are weak may not crank the starter motor fast enough or long enough to start a cold engine. As the temperature goes down, so does battery capacity. A battery that has all of its power available at 80 degrees F will have only about 46% available power at 0 degrees F.Plus, the engine will be 2.5 times harder to start at 0 degrees due to thicker oil and resistance to movement of internal moving parts. In effect, an engine is about five times harder to start at 0 degrees F than at 80 degrees F. Test weak or suspicious batteries under load before cold weather to help eliminate potential problems during busy times
In cold weather, high speed diesel engines, which are mostly pre-chambered, could be difficult to start because the mass of the cylinder block and cylinder head absorb the heat of compression, preventing ignition due to the higher surface to volume ratio. Pre-chambered engines therefore make use of small electric heaters inside the pre-chambers called glowplugs. These engines also generally have a higher compression ratio of 19:1 to 21:1. Low speed and compressed air started larger and intermediate speed diesels do not have glowplugs and compression ratios are around 16:1. Some engines use resistive grid heaters in the intake manifold to warm the inlet air until the engine reaches operating temperature. Engine block heaters (electric resistive heaters in the engine block) connected to the utility grid are often used when an engine is turned off for extended periods (more than an hour) in cold weather to reduce startup time and engine wear. In the past, a wider variety of cold-start methods were used. Some engines, such as Detroit Diesel engines and Lister-Petter engines, used a system to introduce small amounts of ether into the inlet manifold to start combustion. Saab marine engines, Field Marshall tractors (among others) used slow-burning solid-fuel 'cigarettes' which were fitted into the cylinder head as a primitive glow plug. Lucas developed the Thermostart, where an electrical heating element was combined with a small fuel valve in the inlet manifold. Diesel fuel slowly dripped from the valve onto the hot element and ignited. The flame heated the inlet manifold and when the engine was cranked, the flame was drawn into the cylinders to start combustion. International Harvester developed a tractor in the 1930s that had a 7-liter 4-cylinder engine which started as a gasoline/petrol engine then ran on diesel after warming up. The cylinder head had valves which opened for a portion of the compression stroke to reduce the effective compression ratio, and a magneto produced the spark. An automatic ratchet system automatically disengaged the ignition system and closed the valves once the engine had run for 30 seconds. The operator then switched off the petrol fuel system and opened the throttle on the diesel injection system. Recently direct-injection systems advanced to the extent that pre-chambers systems were not needed using a common rail fuel system with electronic fuel injection.
selamat menikmati....
si vis pacem para bellum - si vis bellum para pacem - si vis pacem para pactum
de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum
listening before talking - reading before writing - doing before asking
waduh.....mesti ikut pengajian linggis nih.............
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro
wah makasih jawabannya ya... barusan aku buka, ternyata air akinya dah bekurang banyak(hampir habis) trus aku isi setelah ntu di start pake kaki, di nyalain sampe 15 menit... bener begitu gak om?
eNeR wrote:wah makasih jawabannya ya... barusan aku buka, ternyata air akinya dah bekurang banyak(hampir habis) trus aku isi setelah ntu di start pake kaki, di nyalain sampe 15 menit... bener begitu gak om?
betul ner..... tp ane khawatir itu akinya dah keburu rusak, krn nt ga tau keringnya dah berapa lama......jadi ada kemungkinan cell2 di akinya dah rusak.....
Nah, untuk memastikannya ada baiknya aki disetroom dulu.... trus liat hasilnya..... klo dlm jangka waktu ga terlalu lama ga kuat starter lagi, sebaiknya aki diganti..........
Oleh sebab itu 'perawatan' aki mesti diperhatikan, spy aki ga cepat rusak...........
smoga anak emak mendapatkan manfaat dari tulisan ane ini....................... .....
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