avz vs xenia vs panther
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avz vs xenia vs panther
minta pendapat rekans, untuk penggunaan dalkot jkt dan sedikit tol, bawa barang, keliling2 kira2 80km/day, paling efisien yg mana ya, avanza 1.3, xenia vvti Li ( 100cc ) atau panther? kemungkinan beli bekas, dgn budget 100-130 jt an. resale juga dipertimbangkan...
efisien dalam arti penggunaan bbm, pajak dan sparepartnya.. thank ya.
efisien dalam arti penggunaan bbm, pajak dan sparepartnya.. thank ya.
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saya mah panther aja dah..dimensi paling besar..FC dalkot msh bs 1:11 

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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
Saya mah jg panther aja, kabin lapang, spare part murah n mudah nyarinya, mesin bandel, resale value jg tetap tinggi.
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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
ts nya mo bawa barang banyak sigh yah, jadi yah ane ikutan ama bro badak ama pramuka deh... vote for panther... irit, spare part murah, awet, lapang...
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barang sih kira2 perlu space seluas bagasinya innova ( dgn kursi paling belakang terlipat ). cuma innova boros juga buat dalkot, padahal yg 08 ( euro2).
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yah kalo pilihan nya gt yah mau ga mau panther sigh yg paling memungkinkan...
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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
Panther duonk.....avxen tiap hari dipake muter2 80km sambil ngangkut barang mah bentaran juga zebol..... 

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mesin avxen dipake di granmax tuh om meong... kuat koq jadi angkot...
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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
ente kira mobil keluaran mitikusbusi??? kalo mitikus mah emang gampang jebol.. temen ane pake mobil kuda, cuman beberapa bulan aja umurnya.. abis itu zebool... temen ane ini juraga spare part di daerah...mandala1 wrote:Panther duonk.....avxen tiap hari dipake muter2 80km sambil ngangkut barang mah bentaran juga zebol.....
kalo boyota mah, kuat2 aza... mau angkut sparepart 2 ton pake apanja juga hayu... tapi 10x bolak balik yah...


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hmm,, saya vote for phanter deh,, 

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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
buat kuda beban yaa mending panther sih



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mungkin krn kontendernya avz/xen....kalo misalkan pilihan lainnya L300, mungkin bs agak panjang diskusinya
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
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Benernya kalo mau yg imbang ya harus sama2 1 ton bonnet, macam kijang kapsul, kuda.
Kalo dgn avanza,xenia,apv,l300 gw rasa udah beda segmen.
Kalo dgn avanza,xenia,apv,l300 gw rasa udah beda segmen.
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nah boleh tuh...ispan vs kudis vs kidis..... 

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Mesn memang sama bro (yg 1.5 vvti) tapi basic nya tetep beda, karena Grandmax basicnya adalah pickup yg juga dibikin jadi minibus, sedangkan si avxen pada hakikatnya diperuntukan buat mopen yg load capacity nya terbatasDOHC wrote:mesin avxen dipake di granmax tuh om meong... kuat koq jadi angkot...

Denger2 sih ga lama lagi Toyota juga mau ikut jualan Grandmax (versi pickup only) buat ngisi kelas losbak murah nya.......
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kalo toyota mau ikut jualan kembaran GM...kasihaaan deh para sales daihatsu...bisa2 penjualan GM pikap tersedot dominan dng yg badge toyota.
yah mungkin krn penjualan hilux pikap kurang laris krn mesinnya sama dng inova yang sudah dicap boros...sehingga kurang menarik buat para pengusaha yg umumnya mementingkan biaya operasional. Akhirnya toyota gatel deh mau jualan pikap murah rebadge dari GM.
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yah mungkin krn penjualan hilux pikap kurang laris krn mesinnya sama dng inova yang sudah dicap boros...sehingga kurang menarik buat para pengusaha yg umumnya mementingkan biaya operasional. Akhirnya toyota gatel deh mau jualan pikap murah rebadge dari GM.
IMHO

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10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro
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yg jadi angkot ama pickup granmax bukanya ada yg 1300 jg yah om meongmandala1 wrote:Mesn memang sama bro (yg 1.5 vvti) tapi basic nya tetep beda, karena Grandmax basicnya adalah pickup yg juga dibikin jadi minibus, sedangkan si avxen pada hakikatnya diperuntukan buat mopen yg load capacity nya terbatasDOHC wrote:mesin avxen dipake di granmax tuh om meong... kuat koq jadi angkot...![]()
Denger2 sih ga lama lagi Toyota juga mau ikut jualan Grandmax (versi pickup only) buat ngisi kelas losbak murah nya.......


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Tapi apa masih bisa tetap murah bro?
Emang toyota mo pake mesin apa untuk menyaingi GM?
Bukankan dl sudah ada kijang pickup yg basis nya kijang kapsul, tapi tetap aja kurang laku?
Menurut gw, walopun toyota mengeluarkan versi pickup tetap aja tidak akan mudah merebut pangsa pasar mobil niaga. Karena dikelas mobil niaga sudah tertancap kuat nama mitsu, carry, zebra, sementar toyota kuat di mobil penumpang.
Emang toyota mo pake mesin apa untuk menyaingi GM?
Bukankan dl sudah ada kijang pickup yg basis nya kijang kapsul, tapi tetap aja kurang laku?
Menurut gw, walopun toyota mengeluarkan versi pickup tetap aja tidak akan mudah merebut pangsa pasar mobil niaga. Karena dikelas mobil niaga sudah tertancap kuat nama mitsu, carry, zebra, sementar toyota kuat di mobil penumpang.
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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
pick up pake per daon. xenia pake per keong. bukan kaya kaki2, sasis xenia ga bakal rusak, seumur mobil.DOHC wrote:yg jadi angkot ama pickup granmax bukanya ada yg 1300 jg yah om meongmandala1 wrote:Mesn memang sama bro (yg 1.5 vvti) tapi basic nya tetep beda, karena Grandmax basicnya adalah pickup yg juga dibikin jadi minibus, sedangkan si avxen pada hakikatnya diperuntukan buat mopen yg load capacity nya terbatasDOHC wrote:mesin avxen dipake di granmax tuh om meong... kuat koq jadi angkot...![]()
Denger2 sih ga lama lagi Toyota juga mau ikut jualan Grandmax (versi pickup only) buat ngisi kelas losbak murah nya.......![]()
mungkin kalo dari segi kaki2 dan chassis, si granmax lebi kuat dari avxen... tapi kalo scara mesin sama persis, bearti kalo diliat dari segi mesin yah mustinya avxen kuat jg yah..
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makanya gw blg kan mesin nya yg kayanya kuat... kalo kaki2 dan chassis yah uda ketauan siapa yg lebi kuat lah
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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
maksud gw, per dan sasis xenia pun kuat ga bakal rusak dipake sebagaimana mestinya seumur mobil.
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jahh.. boyota mau masuk ke niaga?? gak akan kuat gerobak boyota ngangkut pasir dan semen 1 ton... boyo bener...BADAK wrote:Tapi apa masih bisa tetap murah bro?
Emang toyota mo pake mesin apa untuk menyaingi GM?
Bukankan dl sudah ada kijang pickup yg basis nya kijang kapsul, tapi tetap aja kurang laku?
Menurut gw, walopun toyota mengeluarkan versi pickup tetap aja tidak akan mudah merebut pangsa pasar mobil niaga. Karena dikelas mobil niaga sudah tertancap kuat nama mitsu, carry, zebra, sementar toyota kuat di mobil penumpang.
mendingan mitikusbusi dah... rajanya ntuh elsape...
suziku oke lah... zebra kayaknya kalo pick up kayaknya masih kurang laku...
kalo panther mah top dah... yang milih panther kan orang pinter..

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@badak: bukan nyaingin, tapi sharing....dah pasti mesin yg dipake sama (seperti di avxen n rushter)maskopat wrote:jahh.. boyota mau masuk ke niaga?? gak akan kuat gerobak boyota ngangkut pasir dan semen 1 ton... boyo bener...BADAK wrote:Tapi apa masih bisa tetap murah bro?
Emang toyota mo pake mesin apa untuk menyaingi GM?
Bukankan dl sudah ada kijang pickup yg basis nya kijang kapsul, tapi tetap aja kurang laku?
Menurut gw, walopun toyota mengeluarkan versi pickup tetap aja tidak akan mudah merebut pangsa pasar mobil niaga. Karena dikelas mobil niaga sudah tertancap kuat nama mitsu, carry, zebra, sementar toyota kuat di mobil penumpang.
mendingan mitikusbusi dah... rajanya ntuh elsape...
suziku oke lah... zebra kayaknya kalo pick up kayaknya masih kurang laku...
kalo panther mah top dah... yang milih panther kan orang pinter..
Btw sapa bilang gulu kijang losbak kagak laku

@kopat: hehehehe.......nah ini yg ane paling demen nih, kalo tikus udah angkat bicara


Gak usah kita ngomongin mobil2 baru skr deh, soalnya L300 ga ada yg baru

Nah....kenapa dijaman skr L300 masih laku? Karena ga ada pengembangan teknologi sama sekali, masih tetep 'stok lama gaya baru'

Hmmm......coba kalo di jkt, dalam sehari brp unit sih kita bisa liat elsape berkeliaran di jalan?


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Re: avz vs xenia vs panther
info dr toko matrial dkt rumah
zebra kurang laku dipake buat pikap krn bearing roda blkg cepet oblak....hentakan mesinnya jg kurang gesit seperti t120ss...tapi anehnya menurut dia kalo sama2 bawa beban dan start ditanjakan, si zebra malah bs berangkat mulus...sementara t120ss pas berangkat di tanjakan sering nglitik parah dan ndut2an.
nah bener gak tuh...??

zebra kurang laku dipake buat pikap krn bearing roda blkg cepet oblak....hentakan mesinnya jg kurang gesit seperti t120ss...tapi anehnya menurut dia kalo sama2 bawa beban dan start ditanjakan, si zebra malah bs berangkat mulus...sementara t120ss pas berangkat di tanjakan sering nglitik parah dan ndut2an.
nah bener gak tuh...??

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