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panther touring itu utk rem dan kopling nya musti nya sama ama panther kapsul kan yah... om badak pake kopling nya apa dulu nehh... setau ane sigh kopling kapsul malah lebi empuk jauhh dari standard nya panther kotak... tapi hal ini kaga berlaku kalo pake pelat kopling aftermarket sperti exedy, soalnya ane pake exedy... ampun dehh keras nya minta ampun bikin pegel, tapi awet banget nigh merek...
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Gw jg kurang tau bro pake merk apa, sejak beli lom pernah dibongkar sama sekali.
tapi sejak bawaannya pertama udah berat banget, entah itu rem, kopling, handling, cuman tarikan yg kerasa lbh ringan dibanding yg kapsul dulu.
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kalo kopling coba distel lagi bro badak... tau kan caranya... tinggal ngolong, kendurkan sekrup nya lalu tinggal diputar tuh batang nya... siapa tau gara2 salah setelan...
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Gw juga curiga cmn setelannya bro..
Kalo menurut bro DOHC, dipasangin stabilizer tuh ngefek gak?
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ikutan nimbrung ya....gw make touring....tarikan enak sih....tp gk berani bawa kebut, remnya horor abis.....wkwkwkwkwkwk......

kalo mau bikin retractable side mirror ganti pake spion mobil apa ye?

btw gw bingung nih, jok penumpang depan touring koq tinggi ye? trus gk bisa diturunin.....ad yg punya masalah kyk gw gk? mohon infonya....
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retractable side mirro tuh paan ya?? :e-think:
kalo masalah jok gw no prob sih..
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BADAK wrote:Gw juga curiga cmn setelannya bro..
Kalo menurut bro DOHC, dipasangin stabilizer tuh ngefek gak?
setelan kopling kadang emang bisa bikin pegel bro... dulu waktu panther ane dipinjem ama paman ane, pedal koplingnya distel ama dia jadi tinggi banget...ampun deh pegel abis ane soalnya kalo lagi macet, nahan kopling nya bikin kaki posisi gantung nya sambil nahan gt... pegel ampe kepinggang tuh... tapi kalo pelat koplingnya uda tipis sigh bisa jg bikin error tuh setelan kopling nya...

stabilizer buat yg blakang bro ?? kalo mnurut ane sigh kaga terlalu ngaruh scara bagian blakang kaga terlalu maen sigh, kan uda rigid ama gardan, apalagi per daun blakang panther uda keras gt, dan lagi karet2 nya cepet banget ancur nya tuh, makanya ane copotin aja akhirnya... btw yg ane binggung knapa dulu kalo beli panther slalu dikasi yah tuh tambahan stabilizer yg warna oranye itu... :e-think: :e-think:
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BADAK wrote:retractable side mirro tuh paan ya?? :e-think:
kalo masalah jok gw no prob sih..
itu logh bro, kaca spion yg kaya di mobil2 mahal, bisa nutup ama ngebuka scara otomatis gt, tinggal dipencet doank, kaga usa buka2 kaca lagi...
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DOHC wrote:
BADAK wrote:Gw juga curiga cmn setelannya bro..
Kalo menurut bro DOHC, dipasangin stabilizer tuh ngefek gak?
setelan kopling kadang emang bisa bikin pegel bro... dulu waktu panther ane dipinjem ama paman ane, pedal koplingnya distel ama dia jadi tinggi banget...ampun deh pegel abis ane soalnya kalo lagi macet, nahan kopling nya bikin kaki posisi gantung nya sambil nahan gt... pegel ampe kepinggang tuh... tapi kalo pelat koplingnya uda tipis sigh bisa jg bikin error tuh setelan kopling nya...

stabilizer buat yg blakang bro ?? kalo mnurut ane sigh kaga terlalu ngaruh scara bagian blakang kaga terlalu maen sigh, kan uda rigid ama gardan, apalagi per daun blakang panther uda keras gt, dan lagi karet2 nya cepet banget ancur nya tuh, makanya ane copotin aja akhirnya... btw yg ane binggung knapa dulu kalo beli panther slalu dikasi yah tuh tambahan stabilizer yg warna oranye itu... :e-think: :e-think:
Oh gitu yah bro. Thx sarannya..
Memang kopling gw kyk nya perlu distel neh, gantungnya trll tinggi bikin pegel.
Yup bener banget bro, karet stabilizer nya mmg gampang banget ancur, makanya gw lg pertimbangin apa sebaeknya gw copot aja ya, mengingat efeknya terhadap kestabilan tidak terlalu signifikan :e-think:
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BADAK wrote: Oh gitu yah bro. Thx sarannya..
Memang kopling gw kyk nya perlu distel neh, gantungnya trll tinggi bikin pegel.
Yup bener banget bro, karet stabilizer nya mmg gampang banget ancur, makanya gw lg pertimbangin apa sebaeknya gw copot aja ya, mengingat efeknya terhadap kestabilan tidak terlalu signifikan :e-think:
sebenernya stabilizer berpengaruh pada kestabilan pada waktu menikung atau jalanan berbelok2, atau sewaktu menyusul mobil di kecepatan tinggi agar bagian belakang kendaraan tidak ngebuang.
bisa dicoba mengganti stabilizer after market, biasanya di tempat kaki2 ada yg jual dan lebih awet.
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om putik, tapi per daun panther ane uda keras nya minta ampun... apa masi perlu ane pakein stabilizer lagi...
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DOHC wrote:om putik, tapi per daun panther ane uda keras nya minta ampun... apa masi perlu ane pakein stabilizer lagi...
kalo yang ane denger2, untuk mobil gardan belakang yang rigid, stabilizer belakang gak terlalu ngaruh perannya.. kecuali emang mau balapan di puncak atau lembang.. mungkin baru ngaruh.
cara kerjanya stabilizer ini menyamakan jarak roda kiri dan kanan terhadap sasis agar tidak terlalu jauh...
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yang saya rasakan di mbl carry & kijang itu memang ada bedanya setelah pake stabilizer belakang....meski gak terlalu signifikan yg jelas mbl lebih "anteng".....juga kalo kena terpaan angin dr samping gak terlalu sempoyongan
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Brart ikesimpulannya stabilizer tuh ada efeknya tapi kecil banget ya :e-think:
tapi ya masih worthed lah mengingat harganya juga tidak terlalu mahal.
Coba bandingkan dgn strut bar yg harganya mahal tp tidak terlalu terasa efeknya.
Btw, ada yg pernah nyoba pake strut bar di mobil MPV macam innova, GL, panther, grandis, stream, or kuda?
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BADAK wrote:Brart ikesimpulannya stabilizer tuh ada efeknya tapi kecil banget ya :e-think:
tapi ya masih worthed lah mengingat harganya juga tidak terlalu mahal.
Coba bandingkan dgn strut bar yg harganya mahal tp tidak terlalu terasa efeknya.
Btw, ada yg pernah nyoba pake strut bar di mobil MPV macam innova, GL, panther, grandis, stream, or kuda?
kalo strut bar sepertinya juga sama dengan stabilizer belakang.. gak terlalu ngaruh kalo pemakaian biasa.. kecuali buat balap.
kalo chassis mobilnya sudah rigid, strut bar makin gak terlalu ngefek..

tapi kalo driving stylenya seneng nikung cepat dan patah, boleh lah pasang strut bar depan dan stabilizer belakang.
kalo stabilizer depan, rasanya wajib deh. hampir semua mobil dari tahun 80-an semua sudah pake stabilizer depan.. mungkin karena suspensi depan pake independent.. gak tahu kalo yang pake rigid axle..
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asumsi saya masalahnya ini untuk batang stabilizer aftermarket yg sering dijual di toko asesoris itu gak ada standarisasi untuk rigiditas/dimensi spesifik sesuai mblnya...CMIIW

sebab kalo saya liat itu meski mblnya sama2 tapi mereknya, diamater batangnya, posisi mounting dll itu jarang yang sama....jadi mungkin wajar kalo testimoni masing2 yang pake stabilizer bs beda2. Ada yg merasa ada efek drastis, ada yg merasa cuma ngaruh dikit bahkan ada yg bilang gak ada pengaruhnya,cuma buat gaya2an aja dikolongnya warna-warni :upss:

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kalo pasang strut bar di depan jelas bakal kerasa beda nya ketimbang stabilizer diblakang, karena suspensi depan lebi maen dibanding yg blakang... dan btul jg tuh, rigiditas chassis memainkan peran jg... kalo uda stiff macam ladder frame chassis yah ngapain lagi pakein strut bar depan... kcuali macam GL yg masi monoque body... pas lagi jalan kenceng dan pindah2 jalur berasa beda nya... btw strut bar depan kayanya ga mahal2 amat sigh bro badak... 400-500an rebu uda dapet...
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kalo misalkan strut bar depan sekitar 500 rb..nah skrg brp harga stabilizer blkg ?? ambil contoh merek dadone :e-think:
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musti nya tanya om meong neh, scara ntuh merek ane sering denger dipake di kijang2 kotak dulu...
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BADAK wrote:retractable side mirro tuh paan ya?? :e-think:
kalo masalah jok gw no prob sih..
itulho......spion yg bisa dilipet elektrik.....wkwkkwkwkwkwk......
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Oalaa.... :oops:
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kalo saya sih lbh terpikir gmn ya kalo pintu bagasi panther membuka keatas....kayaknya mantap tuh... :e-dance:
susah juga sih isuzu untuk pengembangan produk di sini....apakah sebagian saham isuzu udah dibeli toyota ? :e-think:
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jalu wrote:kalo saya sih lbh terpikir gmn ya kalo pintu bagasi panther membuka keatas....kayaknya mantap tuh... :e-dance:
susah juga sih isuzu untuk pengembangan produk di sini....apakah sebagian saham isuzu udah dibeli toyota ? :e-think:
kalo ane lebih suka nyamping loh.. free maintenance... kalo ke atas, harus beli shock penahan pintu gitu... harganya ampun dah..
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mungkin krn ada beberapa tipe panther yang ban serep gendong..jadi kosntruksinya dipertahankan seperti itu
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wkwkwkwk....kalo naek ke atas....kondenya ngeri banget diliat dari atas bro......hehehehe