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(09/10/2009) - Hyundai menjadi ancaman terbesar produsen mobil Jepang. Pasalnya, Hyundai mampu menghasilan produk berkualitas dengan ongkos lebih murah. Eksekutif Jepang menyadari benar hal itu dan mengakui.

“Hyundai mengagumkan,” kata Takanobu Ito, CEO Honda seperti ditulis Autocar. “Jelas meraka jadi ancaman karena produk-produk mereka murah dan kualitasnya terus membaik,” katanya.

Chief designer Nissan, Shiro Nakamura mengakui pula. “Hyundai adalah ancaman terbesar bagi produsen mobil Jepang. Mereka punya teknologinya, tapi tampaknya buruh-buruhnya lebih murah.”

Hyundai juga bisa meluncurkan model-model baru yang sangat kompetitif di segmen yang awalnya dikuasai pabrikan Eropa dan Jepang. Contohnya, Genesis Coupe dan Sedan. Hyundai juga akan meluncurkan Equus, sedan paling mewahnya ke Amerika Serikat dalam waktu dekat ini.
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mantap asal jangan ujung2nya ntar harganya jadi sama kaya mahalnya honda atau malah jadi lebih mahal. :mrgreen:
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zweifellos wrote:mantap asal jangan ujung2nya ntar harganya jadi sama kaya mahalnya honda atau malah jadi lebih mahal. :mrgreen:
nah..ini yang mesti diperhatikan...jangan2 kalo udah sukses harganya makin mahal :e-think:
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semoga hyundai bisa invest pabrik di indo... sehingga sparepart bisa dijual di toko mandala..
apapun merk mobilnya, beli sparepartnya di om dal... :frm_tumbright: :frm_tumbleft:
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Denger2 hyundai avega itu asembling di sini...bener gak ya ? :roll:
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Tul, Avega rakitan Indonesia, termasuk Atoz.
Sebenarnya kl harga aslinya gak semahal buatan jepang kok, hanya saja begitu masuk ke Indo kena pajaknya mahal banget, contoh : Hyundai New Santa Fe, kl harga termurahnya dipasaran Korea & Us kisaran US$ 20.000, dikali Rp.10.000 hanya kisran 200 jutaan, begitu pas awal masuk ke Indo harganya paling murah Rp. 315 Juta. pajaknya gak kuat....
Padahal kl di compare dengan harga 200 jutaan sekarang iniharganya bersain dengan Kijang Innova wuiiihhhh gila. Barang berkualitas seharga Innova :e-pray:
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pingin new santa fe full spek, tp harga di bawah xtrail XT... :e-pray:

eh, btw, new santa fe di berapaan ya barunya?
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di indoneisa apakah nilai pajak impor mbl dari korea itu sama dengan impor dari jepang ? :e-think:
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andra wrote:Tul, Avega rakitan Indonesia, termasuk Atoz.
Sebenarnya kl harga aslinya gak semahal buatan jepang kok, hanya saja begitu masuk ke Indo kena pajaknya mahal banget, contoh : Hyundai New Santa Fe, kl harga termurahnya dipasaran Korea & Us kisaran US$ 20.000, dikali Rp.10.000 hanya kisran 200 jutaan, begitu pas awal masuk ke Indo harganya paling murah Rp. 315 Juta. pajaknya gak kuat....
Padahal kl di compare dengan harga 200 jutaan sekarang iniharganya bersain dengan Kijang Innova wuiiihhhh gila. Barang berkualitas seharga Innova :e-pray:
ini karena santi diimport dari korea kan? kalo dari negara asean, mungkin bisa seharga ipah...
sebenernya, kalo avega udah dirakit di indon, harusnya gak susah ngerakit santi... cmiiw.. jadi harga bisa diteken. terutama mengatasi pajak yang tinggi..
btw, Free Trade kawasan asia kapan ya?
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sebenernya sejak dr tahun brp sih produk korea mengalami peningkatan kualitas secara pesat....?? :e-think:
sebab komentar2 umum yang ada di masyarakat umumnya bilang mobil korea rewel, banyak bermasalah, overheat, kurang tenaga mesin nglitik.... :roll:

sebenrnya apakah itu hanya sentimen masyarakat krn blm percaya produk korea atau memang diawal2 masuk indonesia kualitasnya blm sebaik skrg ? :e-think:
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Abu2 wrote:pingin new santa fe full spek, tp harga di bawah xtrail XT... :e-pray:

eh, btw, new santa fe di berapaan ya barunya?
[pingin new santa fe full spek, tp harga di bawah xtrail XT] ---- :big_slap:

harga New Santa Fe paling murah 375 juta (awalnya 315 juta)
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Jangankan utk ngerakit mobilnya disini, buat launching new produk aja kesannya gak serius.
Biaya pembuatan pabrik baru mahal Bro
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yang facelift gini udah dijual blm ya disini ? apakah masih menghabiskan stok lama yang blm laku ? :e-think:

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andaikan new santi itu ckd dan harga bersaing :e-pray:
sy dah pernah coba tipe V6 gls 7 seat, meski akselrasi biasa saja tapi mblnya nyaman, halus dan terasa solid, tapi bangku row 3 nya memang bener2 buat anak2, buat dewasa sempit banget. Waktu saya coba duduk di row 3 ternyata bukan duduk manis tapi agak jongkok krn legroom minim.

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jalu wrote:sebenernya sejak dr tahun brp sih produk korea mengalami peningkatan kualitas secara pesat....?? :e-think:
sebab komentar2 umum yang ada di masyarakat umumnya bilang mobil korea rewel, banyak bermasalah, overheat, kurang tenaga mesin nglitik.... :roll:

sebenrnya apakah itu hanya sentimen masyarakat krn blm percaya produk korea atau memang diawal2 masuk indonesia kualitasnya blm sebaik skrg ? :e-think:
wah, kurang tahu juga nih om.. tapi hyundai sempat dipake taksi, harusnya cukup bagus sih.. nanti deh kalo naek taksi hyundai ditanya2in..

kerabat ane belum ada yang pake hyundai. kalo picanto ada sih. katanya bagus2 aja. sayang kalo AC difull fan, dashboard jadi bergetar. tarikan oke lah untuk mobil kecil. kabin juga luas.. sori jadi ngebahas kia bukan hyundai.
tapi secara kia sudah milik hyundai, ane singgung dikit aja...

oh ya, om imsus tuh yang pake santi.. coba aja kita tanya... atau bukan tret santa fe...
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Hyundai bagus koq. Gw pakai produk versi murah buatan hyundai dan toyota-daihatsu. Hasilnya secara kualitas bisa dikatakan seimbang. Utk mesin, memang lebih mantap toyota-daihatsu, namun beberapa bagian, hyundai lebih baik.
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maskopat wrote:
jalu wrote:sebenernya sejak dr tahun brp sih produk korea mengalami peningkatan kualitas secara pesat....?? :e-think:
sebab komentar2 umum yang ada di masyarakat umumnya bilang mobil korea rewel, banyak bermasalah, overheat, kurang tenaga mesin nglitik.... :roll:

sebenrnya apakah itu hanya sentimen masyarakat krn blm percaya produk korea atau memang diawal2 masuk indonesia kualitasnya blm sebaik skrg ? :e-think:
wah, kurang tahu juga nih om.. tapi hyundai sempat dipake taksi, harusnya cukup bagus sih.. nanti deh kalo naek taksi hyundai ditanya2in..

kerabat ane belum ada yang pake hyundai. kalo picanto ada sih. katanya bagus2 aja. sayang kalo AC difull fan, dashboard jadi bergetar. tarikan oke lah untuk mobil kecil. kabin juga luas.. sori jadi ngebahas kia bukan hyundai.
tapi secara kia sudah milik hyundai, ane singgung dikit aja...

oh ya, om imsus tuh yang pake santi.. coba aja kita tanya... atau bukan tret santa fe...
ada apa ya panggil-panggil saya...? :e-think: .................. :ngacir: ................. :big_peace:
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cowcool wrote:(09/10/2009) - Hyundai menjadi ancaman terbesar produsen mobil Jepang. Pasalnya, Hyundai mampu menghasilan produk berkualitas dengan ongkos lebih murah. Eksekutif Jepang menyadari benar hal itu dan mengakui.

“Hyundai mengagumkan,” kata Takanobu Ito, CEO Honda seperti ditulis Autocar. “Jelas meraka jadi ancaman karena produk-produk mereka murah dan kualitasnya terus membaik,” katanya.

Chief designer Nissan, Shiro Nakamura mengakui pula. “Hyundai adalah ancaman terbesar bagi produsen mobil Jepang. Mereka punya teknologinya, tapi tampaknya buruh-buruhnya lebih murah.”

Hyundai juga bisa meluncurkan model-model baru yang sangat kompetitif di segmen yang awalnya dikuasai pabrikan Eropa dan Jepang. Contohnya, Genesis Coupe dan Sedan. Hyundai juga akan meluncurkan Equus, sedan paling mewahnya ke Amerika Serikat dalam waktu dekat ini.
Lah....kalo Honda, (secara worldwide sale & production) kan emang sudah di lewatin Hyundai-KIA pak...hehehe.....no offense buat honda lover :big_peace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Ki ... tive_Group
http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/article.php?AID=2481
http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/gallery.p ... &TYPE=news
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00315.html
Jadi kalau CEO Honda barusan aja menyadari ada ancaman...dah telat tuh, invasion already begun :off_lazy:

Next Target:
:snipersmile: .....T,
:snipersmile: .....GM,
:snipersmile: .....VW

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kalau dulu mereka dicap "pinjam" teknologi orang dan serbu market dgn harga murah, sekarang mereka juga sdh unjuk gigi di bidang teknologi

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward%27s_10_Best_Engines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Tau_engine

Intinya, Hyundai-KIA sudah jadi "Clear and Present Danger", sebagaimana Samsung menggusur Sony di dunia elektronik


Nah....pertanyaannya sekarang, kapankah INDONESIA bisa ditakuti dan dirasakan sebagai ancaman (dalam arti positif)?
Masak kalah sama korea? Sebagai sesama jajahan jepang tapi kita punya lebih banyak sumber daya disegala hal.......

Tapi nyatanya....??????? :e-whistle: :e-whistle: :big_slap: :big_slap: :big_slap:
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setuju om imsus.. kalo pesaing gak ada progress, bukan mustahil dalam 3-5 tahun ke depan hyundai-kia bisa masuk 2-3 besar world wide..
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Indonesia mah tunggu selesai meeting mlulu...
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Betul. Udah terlambat nih CEO Honda...he..he..
Sekarang ini mah baik Jepang maupun Korea harus mewaspadai China.
Itu udah diingetkan bro Jalu dari sekarang...ha..ha..ha..
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cuma entah kenapa hyundai banyak tidak memasukkan model2 terbarunya ke Indonesia . Mungkin target utamanya menggempur pasar amerika dulu
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contoh hyundai ix35 (lawan langsung CRV)
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niu santi niu santi....tetap idaman ane nih........kapan ya masuk indo dgn harga murah :roll:
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Abu2 wrote:niu santi niu santi....tetap idaman ane nih........kapan ya masuk indo dgn harga murah :roll:
tunggu aja bentar lagi deh....kalo CEO-nya Hyundai-KIA orang dari Lampung atau Medan :big_peace:
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kayaknya kalo CEOnya dari Semarang deh Meneer.... :ungg: