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4.5 6cyl nya bensin ga ngejer yg vx200 twin turbo 4.5 diesel? di tanjakkan atau datar? ngejernya susah tapi dapet dong?
dengan perjungan keras dapet juga bos, cumang di jalan datar, kan tol cibubur konturnya agak naik turun :e-wall:
biar yakin aja nih, mobil bro agathos apaan?
gw agak sulit percaya mobil bensin cc besar susah ngejar tt 4.5diesel...
LC105 Series bos, mesin-nya 1FZ-FE 4.5L straight 6. hehe so do I, waktu itu gw pikir gampang tapi baru bisa lewat pas spedo udah di 180 km/j
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wah..iya juga ya..power nya lc 4.5 6straight 220an hp/380an *cmiiw* ngejar vx200 1vd twinturbo udah variable geometry diesel yg 260an hp/ 650nm..

hebat bgt diesel kayak begini..ga heran deh kalo bro empot2an ngejar nya
serem banget tuh angka torsi nya..
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yepppp, mesin 1VD luar biasa tenaga dan torsi-nya... sempet ada ide mau ganti mesin bensin LC gw ke Diesel 1VD nih heheheh cumang kayaknya mahal banget mesin baru-nya kalo beli mesin baru bearti taon depan gak jadi beli prado buat istri hehehehe :big_slap:
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Gimana kalo bro yg ambil lc baru, dan istri pk lc yg skrg hehehe..prado tanggung..

Atau bini kasih harrier atau sedan..kan bs ganti2an biar ga bosen pk mobil gede terus..
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wheheeh gak ada duitnya bos buat ganti LC-200, lagi pula g personally kurang suka design LC-200 :P karena terlalu manis di pantatnya dan karena dia IFS gw kadang2 kalo bawa mobil suka extreme soalnya heheheh :D kalo ada duit segitu mending beli harrier second th 2007 buat istri dan beli mercy C63 AMG baru buat gw ngebut sabtu minggu heheheheh

ada usul dari istri juga sih, instead of prado dia mau C240 Sport yang tahun 2006-2007, price wise lebih murah dari prado :P tapi gw bilang sama dia, gw cumang mau beliin service bayar sendiri kalo mercy hehehehe :big_slap:
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numpang tanya Oom..kalo LC cygnus itu suspensi depannya IFS atau rigid axle ? :e-think:
apakah LC-100 vx bisa di "bottom lift" seperti cygnus ?

waktu saya tugas di palembang, mobil ops manager itu LC-100 diesel tapi ada emblem sahara, apakah sahara itu cuma tempelan atau memang ada varian sahara ?

mohon dicerahkan om, sebab saya cuma kuli proyek, tahunya cuma type LC-105 GX, VX atau LC 70 kotak station wagon atau pikap :big_peace:
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Kalo LC 100 Series dan Cygnus semuanya IFS, yang RFS itu 105 Series bos. nah setahu saya LC-100 yang pake suspensi "bottom-up"/ Air Suspension/AHC itu yang versi VX Limited kalo VX-Standard itu belum ada. kalo sahara itu kalo gak salah salah satu varian dari VX Limited dengan vitur lebih lux dikit (CMIIW) kalo di australi ada lagi varian Kakadu. sebenernya over all cygnus itu varian mewah dari LC 100 series yang bahkan lebih mewah dari VX Limited.

wah 70 series-nya di pake dimana bos? tambang bukan? beberapa klien kantor gw yang mining company pake 70 series tuh dan memang kuat banget katanya :big_peace:
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lc100vx ltd jap version, punya air suspension. kalo bola2 suspensi nya rusak hehehe..Rp nya wow..

lc vx100 oz, sahara, ga pk air suspension. wkt itu sih hrg nya lebih tinggi dari yg 100ltd. mantaplah. rem enak, tenaga enak.
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LC 70 memang pake di lokasi tambang oom, selain itu sering pake juga LC-105 GX (RFS, pintu blkg model lemari), ada juga 1 unit LC-80 disel tapi kondisi interiornya udah jelek meski masih tetap handal dipake (skrg jd mobil storing mekanik) sementara tipe VX yang pake cuma field manager aja. Terakhir ini baru datang 2 unit LC-200 GX disel (pintu lemari), kebetulan udah sempet nyobain :e-dance: , karena masih baru ya desain masih fresh juga lbh nyaman, tapi IMHO sistem elektriknya jg udah mulai rumit ya, keyless entry/start, AC auto dual zone, tombol 4wd elektrik dll. padahal itu tipe entry level :e-think: , tapi power mesin diselnya nya mantab euy :frm_tumbright: , hmm LC-200 ini saya blm sempet intip kolong depannya, apakah rigid axle atau IFS. :roll: , skrg lc-200 dah dikirim untuk ke lokasi lain, hiks..hiks... :off_no:

Dari semua mbl ops, memang yang paling kuat itu yang kotak seri 70, bener2 solid, tapi sayangnya bantingan suspensinya keras banged (apalagi yang pikup :mrgreen: )

oh ya saya perhatikan hampir semua LC yang ada di lokasi suspensi depannya rigid axle dan bermesin disel, tapi kebetulan semua tipe mesinnya sama kok sama ya, 1HZ (selain lc-200) :e-think: , jujur aja saya sendiri blm pernah lihat mesin 1HDT di tempat kerja.

Lumayanlah meski profesi saya cuma kuli tapi bs ikut mencicipi ketangguhan land cruiser, kalo beli mah kagak sanggup oom...tapi ya cita2 untuk memiliki sih ada :mrgreen: .

LC impian saya seri 105 type VX disel....mudah2an aja suatu saat bs memiliki :e-pray: :e-pray: :e-pray:
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agathos wrote:^

wheheeh gak ada duitnya bos buat ganti LC-200, lagi pula g personally kurang suka design LC-200 :P karena terlalu manis di pantatnya dan karena dia IFS gw kadang2 kalo bawa mobil suka extreme soalnya heheheh :D kalo ada duit segitu mending beli harrier second th 2007 buat istri dan beli mercy C63 AMG baru buat gw ngebut sabtu minggu heheheheh

ada usul dari istri juga sih, instead of prado dia mau C240 Sport yang tahun 2006-2007, price wise lebih murah dari prado :P tapi gw bilang sama dia, gw cumang mau beliin service bayar sendiri kalo mercy hehehehe :big_slap:
iya, mendingan bini kasih harrier atau sedan lah, kalo lagi mood sedan bs gantian gitu. jgn prado lah, udah ada lc..eh lc jg ya..maksudnya udah ada vx105, ngapain turun ke prado lagi.

setuju, memang sih lc200 bentuknya lebih metropolis dan mewah, ketimbang versi2 seblmnya.
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@jalu
lc70 memang biasa dipake utk pertambangan, mobil utility, byk dipake UN.
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aminnnn :frm_tumbright:

LC 105 itu kalo menurut gw di tengah2 antara 70 series dan 100 series, suspensi cukup untuk hard terrain offroad tapi di aspal juga lumayan, sementara 70 series lebih fokus di hard offroadnya (kuda pekerja) sementara kalo LC 100 itu lebih lux untuk intown dan mid level offroad :big_peace:

yep kalo 105 setau gw juga pilihan mesin-nya cumang 1HZ ato 1FZ, 1HD adanya di 100 series, kalo gak salah di asia, eropa dan amerika pilihan mesin 100 series itu either 1HD ato 2UZ. tapi kalo di arab di tambah 1FZ juga.

btw bos, bukannya kalo perusahan tambang mobil udah abis masa pakainya di lelang yah? ato kalo di company si bos gimana prosedurnya? lumayan tuh kalo ada 70 series ato 105 yang mau di lelang hehehe bisa di jadiin project car kalo si bos mau :D
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agathos wrote:^
btw bos, bukannya kalo perusahan tambang mobil udah abis masa pakainya di lelang yah? ato kalo di company si bos gimana prosedurnya? lumayan tuh kalo ada 70 series ato 105 yang mau di lelang hehehe bisa di jadiin project car kalo si bos mau :D
naah ini yang susah, masalahnya saya kan kuli pertambangan di timur tengah, kalopun dilelang murah bingung gmn cara bawanya ke indonesia :frm_bang_head:
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yep, istri juga bilang sama sih, kebanyakan SUV dia naiknya susah katanya, apalagi kalo ada acara pesta2 mesti pake gaun atau kebaya, repot dia :e-whistle:

bos, ada pengalaman sama harrier gak? service sama Camry sama ato lebih mahal bos (electrical, engine)? mkn kalo mau ngambil paling yang 3.0 airs, kalo yang 2.4 agak nanggung rasanya
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ooo, iya juga sih... kalo di indo dl setau gw newmont yang banyak pake 70 series sama hi-lux (CMIIW) kalo 105 series setau gw UN dan ada orang kedutaan kanada yang pake di jakarta. di apt gw juga ada orang UN yang pake Patrol 2007 warna putih, keren abisss euy :P
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Ngelamun mode : ON :roll:

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Kapaaaan ya bisa kebeli..... :frm_bang_head: :mrgreen:
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kalo pengalaman harrier camry 3.0 lama dan 2.4 new bisa gw share dikit..

service berkala sptnya hampir sama kalo seputar mesin. kalo electrical sepengalaman gw jarang kenapa2. harrier termasuk jarang rewel kok, yah tergantung maintenance lah.

yg 2.4 new, mesinnya cukup responsif kok dibanding yg 2.4 lama, service pasti lebih murah, busi cuma 4.

yg mahal pas tune up dan ganti belt, tensioner hrs ikut ganti. biaya nya gw lupa...

kalo yg airs, imho gw sih mendingan ambil yg biasa aja. menang mahal di suspensi aja. klo rusak, heheh RP wow! jalan2 indonesia kan masih byk lubang, rentan rusak bro. mending yg konvensonal.
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@agatos: mulai tahun brp LC-100 ada mild facelift ? (lampu depan jadi model kristal 1 piece) ?
@roadtrain : apakah ada harrier 3.0 yang non airs (gen-2) ?
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@jalu

pic lc105?

kalo vx100 emang masih mahal. yg vx80 aja, bagus dan kuat juga, tampang nya galak dan blm out of date *imo*
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roadtrain99 wrote:@jalu

pic lc105?

kalo vx100 emang masih mahal. yg vx80 aja, bagus dan kuat juga, tampang nya galak dan blm out of date *imo*
kalo diliat gardan depannya yang rigid itu seri 105.CMIIW

LC-80 memang pasarannya berapa ya ? , RFS bukan ? sebenrnya tampangnya masih segar sih, banyak jg yang saya liat lampu depannya diganti model 1 piece, cuma model interiornya aja yang mulai berumur meski material kabinnya berkelas. Mesin diselnya apakah 1HDT ?
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nambahin ah, kalo yang ini Mall Cruiser..... :upss: :upss:

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thanks for the info bos, btw emang harier 3.0 ada yang gak airs bos? rencana sih kalo mau ambil harrier ambilnya yang tahun 2004-2005 an karena kisarannya masuk di budget gak lebih dari 500. iya sih air sus emang kalo udah rusak tinggal potong kaki sama tangan aja buat service nya :frm_bang_head: itu juga dulu yang jadi alasan kenapa ambil LC yang 105 karena gak pake air sus. hmm harier 2.4 mesin baru taon-nya taon berapa bos? oh iya service-nya dulu dimana bos? kalo gw biasa di simprug mobil, di banding garasindo harganya sih masih mending simprug so far.

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kalo di liat rim-nya dan artikulasi-nya 2 foto diatas 105 semua bos. kalo lampu one piece setau gua itu 2006-2007 faceliftnya, akhir taon ini gw juga ada rencana facelift LC gw ke model 2007 biar keliatan lebih seger :D

hmm kemaren temen ada yang jual 80 series mesin 1HZ non turbo taon 1996 di 285 juta KM di 70rb-an. kalo gak salah ada yang 1HD (CMIIW), tapi harganya masih sekitar 300an malah kemaren ada yang berani jual ampir 400an. kalo 105 kemaren ada yang jual juga mesin diesel 1HZ harganya di 475jt taon 2000

wheheeh iya tuh mall cruiser semua, IMHO sih LC sebenernya kurang pas kalo pake rim gede dan bling2 tapi yah selera tiap orang beda2 kalo gw pake rim bling2 kaya gitu sih seminggu udah ancur kayaknya hehehe :big_weee:



80 series sih kalo dapet yang masih bagus enak, cumang harus perhatiin injector solar-nya, kalo udah harus service bisa lumayan mahal.
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hmm ternyata lc-105 disel thn 2000 masih tinggi ya harganya....duh brp tahun lagi harus menabung :e-wall:
sebab setau saya pasaran LC rada gelap, peminatnya tinggi tapi yang jual jarang.

oh ya om agatos, saya notice jenis LC100 ada 2 macam bentuk ventilasi AC di dasbor tengah, ada yang melebar ke samping dan ada juga yang menyudut keatas, nah perbedaan bentuk dasbor itu apakah berdasarkan tahun pembuatan atau bagaimana ? :e-think: (sayang saya gak punya foto dasbornya)
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aha..dapet juga fotonya : :e-dance:

1. vent AC melebar ke samping

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2. vent A/C menyudut keatas

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selain itu apakah perbedaan warna interior ini berdasarkan tahun pembuatan atau karena perbedaan opsi ?

ditunggu pencerahannya :frm_salut:
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itu perbedaan tahun pembuatan bos, kalo model dasboard kayak foto 1 di-atas itu yang model 2003 ke atas (akhir 2003 kalo gak salah), kalo model yang kaya foto-2 di atas itu 2003 ke bawah.