Irreasonable harga Innova Baru - PART 01

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GV itu grand vitara bukan ya?
kalo iya, nah kenapa dibilang harganya paling murah/reasonable (paling value for money)? bukankah harga nya mirip dengan yang lian misal captiva atau xtrail?
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gak pake pipiti ai ,
drum rear brake
plastik interior biasa aja.

makanya agak murah.. :D
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Abu2 wrote:gak pake pipiti ai ,
drum rear brake
plastik interior biasa aja.

makanya agak murah.. :D
kalo dari microsite grand vitara di web suzuki disebutin pake disc depan belakang (kalo di web hasil klik gambar grand vitara 2.0 sih memang tertulis disc buat depan dan drum buat belakang). saya kira yang benar yang microsite ternyata yang 2.0 ga disc dua2nya ya om?
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kalo edisi sekarang, yg 2.4 yg disc depan belakang. yg 2.0 blkg masih drum.
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kalo kencangnya (akselerasi) gimana om abu2? image vitara yang saya dapat adalah mobil kencang karena dulu (sebelum keluar xtrail, livina, crv dan kawan2nya) mobil ini yang paling kencang saya liat untuk kelas mobil yang berbodi tinggi (suv&mpv).
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wah ada yang lagi bahas GV nih..ikutan ah sambil menimba ilmu dari para sesepuh.... :big_peace:
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http://www.thecarconnection.com/fullrev ... itara_2006
The new Grand Vitara rides on a car-like, unibody frame, but in this case it's beefed up with a built-in ladder frame to imbue it with added off-road toughness.
Yg saya paling seneng, GV ini kaya mobil2 mahal aja...kaya Range Rover aja pake unibody juga...ladder frame juga. Lebih kukuh dr saingan2nya crv xtrail captiva. Sayang model 4WD nya gak masuk...off roader mur-mer.

Trus modelnya keren, apalagi yg 2.4...peleknya manis. Tapi interior lebih kasar sedikit di bandingkan saingan2nya.
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kalo versi bangku 3 baris dari Grand Vitara apakah memang ada?
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AFAIk gak ada om zwei, GV yang dijual di Indo cuma 5 pintu 2 baris tempat duduk, sementara di mancanegara juga ada versi 3 pintu (short). Sangat disayangkan GV 4wd gak dijual disini :frm_bang_head:

desain interior GV sebenernya cukup bagus, sayang finishingnya masih terlihat kasar terutama di motif jahitan jok kulitnya.
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thanks om jalu. kalo yang 4WD itu apakah seperti model captiva, xtrail, crv yang sekadar AWD saja? atau memang mobil 4x4 (ada low gear, transfercase difflock)?

kalo kenyamanan gimana om? kalo nyaman meskipun kualitas finishing agak kasar keknya masih baguslah.
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zweifellos wrote:kalo kencangnya (akselerasi) gimana om abu2? image vitara yang saya dapat adalah mobil kencang karena dulu (sebelum keluar xtrail, livina, crv dan kawan2nya) mobil ini yang paling kencang saya liat untuk kelas mobil yang berbodi tinggi (suv&mpv).

he..he.h.eh..utk sekelas 2000cc ,cukup lah akselerasinya..standarnya 10an (m/t) 12an (a/t) cmiiw..
ya cocok lah buat touring ini mobil...
dibawa terbang juga asik... :D
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Abu2 wrote:kalo edisi sekarang, yg 2.4 yg disc depan belakang. yg 2.0 blkg masih drum.
Bos kalo gak salah yang 2.0 yang baru belakang juga disc lo!
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An available, dual-range, four-wheel-drive system includes a two-speed transfer case with low-range gearing for off-road use, along with a fully automatic single-mode version.
Mantap lah kalo 4WD nya masuk...sayang sekali :(
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mantep lah....ada kemajuan....

tapi transmisi matik nya tak sedap....jadul......
idaman ane dari dulu tu, jika transmisinya kayak an xtrail 2.5 punya..... :roll:
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zweifellos wrote:thanks om jalu. kalo yang 4WD itu apakah seperti model captiva, xtrail, crv yang sekadar AWD saja? atau memang mobil 4x4 (ada low gear, transfercase difflock)?

kalo kenyamanan gimana om? kalo nyaman meskipun kualitas finishing agak kasar keknya masih baguslah.
AFAIK sistem 4wd GV ada posisi N-4H-4H lock-4L...jadi masih 4x4.CMIIW.

Kenyamanan....untuk kekedapan suara di kabin cukup baik, hanya karakter suspensinya firm relatif keras, jadi terasa keras diwaktu kosong tapi ngepas kalo penuh, kenikmatan pake GV itu untuk touring krn stabilitasnya cukup bagus di kecepatan tinggi dan body roll nya minim, jadi untuk lintasan yang berkelok2 handlingnya meyakinkan.

girboks maticnya memang jadul, 4 A/T, untung shfiter nya model gate yang ada pilihannya dari L-2-3-D....jadi masih bs "dimanualkan",hehehehe...
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komen gw ini ya OOT tapi sekedar pembanding harga klo alphard/vellfire 3.5 ltr full spec di hkg termasuk road tax sekitar 460.000 HKd ( +/- x 1.300 = 600jt), hrg alph atpm sini yg 1.1M bedanya ampir 1 mobil lagi alias 1:2.
Contoh lagi hrg LC full spec 760K HKd (1M ) di Indo 1.9M ( hampir 2 x lipat juga)
Kalo pake perbandingan ini harga Tokinov 250jtan ga worth.
Logika gw klo tokinov ada di hkg hrgnya max 150jt (1/4 hrg alphard Hkg, krn hrg alphard disini 4x tokinov).
Asumsi ini gw pake krn gw anggap Tam ambil persentasi hitungan yg sama utk tokinov sama Alph.
Sayangnya gw ga nemu hrg Tokinov di Hkg sih jadi ga bisa dijadikan perbandingan yg akurat.
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koolrider wrote:komen gw ini ya OOT tapi sekedar pembanding harga klo alphard/vellfire 3.5 ltr full spec di hkg termasuk road tax sekitar 460.000 HKd ( +/- x 1.300 = 600jt), hrg alph atpm sini yg 1.1M bedanya ampir 1 mobil lagi alias 1:2.
Contoh lagi hrg LC full spec 760K HKd (1M ) di Indo 1.9M ( hampir 2 x lipat juga)
Kalo pake perbandingan ini harga Tokinov 250jtan ga worth.
Logika gw klo tokinov ada di hkg hrgnya max 150jt (1/4 hrg alphard Hkg, krn hrg alphard disini 4x tokinov).
Asumsi ini gw pake krn gw anggap Tam ambil persentasi hitungan yg sama utk tokinov sama Alph.
Sayangnya gw ga nemu hrg Tokinov di Hkg sih jadi ga bisa dijadikan perbandingan yg akurat.
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beda bos... LC PPnBM nya 75%.. Alphard gw gak tau, tp kayanya diatas 50%.. nanti kalo udah jadi 200% siap2 aja liat harga dua2nya melambung tinggi lg.....

Harga kebanyakan emang main di struktur pajak sih... liat aja di Singapore.. harga alpratnya lebih murah dr indo.. tp harga piosnya jauh lebih mahal dr indo.. aneh gak tuh??

jd gak bs bandingin antar dua negara bos.. bukan apple to apple kalo yg dibandingin harga On The Road nya....

Btw, untuk GV, gw cuman punya 1 minus sih emang.. mesin jadul aja... Yang laen oke bgt. Masalah kualitas interior gw gak pikiran, toh pasti dicustom juga.. hehehhee....
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http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/
Tuh contoh lagi harga fit di US 19ribuan US$ apakah sama dgn di indo harganya?ya mirip2lah..Tapi fiturnya gimana? http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/price. ... l=GE8H6AGW kayak bumi dan langit..qiqiqi :big_peace: :big_peace:
Mohon sesepuh mengapa bisa begitu?faktor apa aja yg mempengaruhi harga mobil?apakah US emang udah 100% local content parts
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FortunerMan wrote:
An available, dual-range, four-wheel-drive system includes a two-speed transfer case with low-range gearing for off-road use, along with a fully automatic single-mode version.
Mantap lah kalo 4WD nya masuk...sayang sekali :(
mantap juga kalo gitu. :thanks:
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zweifellos wrote:thanks om jalu. kalo yang 4WD itu apakah seperti model captiva, xtrail, crv yang sekadar AWD saja? atau memang mobil 4x4 (ada low gear, transfercase difflock)?

kalo kenyamanan gimana om? kalo nyaman meskipun kualitas finishing agak kasar keknya masih baguslah.
AFAIK sistem 4wd GV ada posisi N-4H-4H lock-4L...jadi masih 4x4.CMIIW.

Kenyamanan....untuk kekedapan suara di kabin cukup baik, hanya karakter suspensinya firm relatif keras, jadi terasa keras diwaktu kosong tapi ngepas kalo penuh, kenikmatan pake GV itu untuk touring krn stabilitasnya cukup bagus di kecepatan tinggi dan body roll nya minim, jadi untuk lintasan yang berkelok2 handlingnya meyakinkan.

girboks maticnya memang jadul, 4 A/T, untung shfiter nya model gate yang ada pilihannya dari L-2-3-D....jadi masih bs "dimanualkan",hehehehe...
kalo seperti itu berarti benar2 4x4. cuman mungkin ground clearencenya aja kali ya yang kurang besar.

wah mantap betul yang saya tebalin. coba kalo ada versi 3 bangkunya, cocok bgt buat mobil keluarga buat perjalanan ke luar kota. :frm_tumbright:

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aldy wrote:http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/
Tuh contoh lagi harga fit di US 19ribuan US$ apakah sama dgn di indo harganya?ya mirip2lah..Tapi fiturnya gimana? http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/price. ... l=GE8H6AGW kayak bumi dan langit..qiqiqi :big_peace: :big_peace:
Mohon sesepuh mengapa bisa begitu?faktor apa aja yg mempengaruhi harga mobil?apakah US emang udah 100% local content parts
IMHO, seperti kata bro datsu di atas, faktor pajak juga berperan penting mengapa harga mobil di 2 negara itu sangat berbeda. Harga mobil di amerika memang sangat murah, coba saja bandingkan mobil yang sama di negara2 lain.
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GV sayangnya bensin euy.. kalo pake diesel 4D56T CRD Intercooler, asek banget neh.. 4x4... 7 seaters seperti XL7... bungkuuusss..... :e-dance: :e-dance:
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maskopat wrote:GV sayangnya bensin euy.. kalo pake diesel 4D56T CRD Intercooler, asek banget neh.. 4x4... 7 seaters seperti XL7... bungkuuusss..... :e-dance: :e-dance:
dimancanegara jg ada GV diesel om kopat, 1.9 ddis

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maskopat wrote:GV sayangnya bensin euy.. kalo pake diesel 4D56T CRD Intercooler, asek banget neh.. 4x4... 7 seaters seperti XL7... bungkuuusss..... :e-dance: :e-dance:
bukannya itu jadi mitsubishi pajero (sport) om? :big_weee:
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