[WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Segala mobil tipe SUV (2WD/4WD). (Cherokee, Terios, Rush, dll).

Moderators: r12qiSonH4ji, avantgardebronze, akbarfit, Ryan Steele, sh00t

User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

GTR wrote:
iwang wrote:itu portuner ada crash testnya ga yah? ada yang tau?
ada lewat hilux nya versi ANCAP, australia punya.
4 bintang kalo ga salah. ttg "kelas" NCAP,
bisa liat disini: http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... &start=100
Fyi, rating 3 bintang di ANCAP, setara 1 bintang di ENCAP.
ENN... CAPEde.... fortie dan hilux itu beda body... gak bisa disamakan hasil crash testnya.. :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
iwang
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1727
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:41

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by iwang »

kalo inopa ada ga crash testnya..panther?
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

sepertinya beda bobot mayan, tapi kurang jelas juga extra beban buat hilux saat tes.
tapi hasilnya ga bakal beda jauh harusnya, kecuali bentuknya lain.
iwang
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1727
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:41

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by iwang »

hmm..emang portuner ga ada yak di negara laen..? cuma asia tenggara doang?
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

iwang wrote:kalo inopa ada ga crash testnya..panther?
kalo innova bentuknya beda mayan, tentu beda dari hilux.
Phanter ga ada.
mandala1
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 7559
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:44

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by mandala1 »

maskopat wrote:
mandala1 wrote: Wooow......jelas beda dong ah......makanya belajar dulu! Baru boleh ngetik.....jgn asbun :mrgreen: fyi engine part fortie n ipah masih made in japan, begitu juga dgn dyna......mitsu? :frm_bang_head:
maksud ente part fortie dan ipah masih made in japan? atau mode in japan? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Engine Parts fortie n innova made in japan
Teikoku Piston RIKEN itu kedengerannya merk mana yah? :weekk:
iwang
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1727
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:41

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by iwang »

ya ini brarti bisa2nya toyota aja, bikin portuner, bikin inopa, dua2nya ga ada crash test, gitu..? mahal2 tp ga ada crash test, tapi tentunya untungnya gde banget per mobil..hehe
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

GTR wrote:bro kopat napasnya kuat juga, ini baru satu lawan semua, udah ngos2an belum ya.... :glodak:
tenang om... masih kuat... :big_weee: :big_weee:
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

iwang wrote:ya ini brarti bisa2nya toyota aja, bikin portuner, bikin inopa, dua2nya ga ada crash test, gitu..? mahal2 tp ga ada crash test, tapi tentunya untungnya gde banget per mobil..hehe
buat tembusin market negara2 ketat, memang mahal syarat2nya.
walaupun produk2 seperti ini menang geriliya di sebagian regional, belum tentu qty secara total.
misal : avanza(xenia) vs jazz(fit).
iwang
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1727
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:41

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by iwang »

ya toyota memanfaatkan ini..bikin aja mbl2 baru, jual ke negara berkembang..pasti laku dah..hehe..padahal tu mobil kaga bisa dijual di eropa misalnya , karena ga jelas desainnya
jadi ga bisa dong bangga2an portuner, mbl buat 3rd world..? ya ga?
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

hilux bisa dipasarkan di eropa, tapi sepertinya persyaratan truk di eropa tidak seketat passenger cars nya.
mesinnya pun berbeda, hanya disel & versi intercooler, untuk memenuhi syarat emisi.
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

mandala1 wrote:
maskopat wrote:
mandala1 wrote: Wooow......jelas beda dong ah......makanya belajar dulu! Baru boleh ngetik.....jgn asbun :mrgreen: fyi engine part fortie n ipah masih made in japan, begitu juga dgn dyna......mitsu? :frm_bang_head:
maksud ente part fortie dan ipah masih made in japan? atau mode in japan? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Engine Parts fortie n innova made in japan
Teikoku Piston RIKEN itu kedengerannya merk mana yah? :weekk:
emang berapa lama sih tahannya part made in japan??
oke.. tie rod, ball joint, idle arm ipah dan fortie.. tahan berapa lama tuh yang ori???

kayak tahan banting aja... tuh.. om iwang lagi cari crash test ipah dan portuner... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
cari gih....
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

FortunerMan wrote:
maskopat wrote:coba ente bandingin mobil item dan putih yang kejemur matahari di parkiran mall.. ente masuk.. trus idupin AC.. mending mana?? :big_weee: :big_weee:
ditambah kalo lagi sial, AC kurang mumpuni.. :big_slap:
Gak tau, tapi kalo AC bagus...jalan 5 menit juga dingin (warna apa pun), what's the problem?
the problem is, mobil ane cuman butuh waktu kurang dari 2 menit... warna aquatic blue dengan solargard bronze 20... :big_peace: :big_peace:
ente kira aja kerja kompresor AC kalo warna item dan KF biasa... :e-whistle: :e-whistle:
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

[quote="arisbudiarto"
data dari MUARC (Monash University Accident Research Center) pimpinan Dr. STUART NEWSTEAD menyebutkan bahwa sejak tahun 1987-2004, Mobil Warna HITAM = PALING BANYAK MENGALAMI KECELAKAAN
Faktor SoPIR yang mengkonsumsi Obat-obatan, jalan jelek,
Tercatat :
12% kecelakaan = HITAM
11% warna ABU-ABU
10% warna SILVER
7% warna MERAH dan BIRU
dibawah angka ini warna KREM (kaki), KUNING, BEIGE terakhir warna PUTIH

PENELITIAN DI USA
Mobil yang dicat warna MERAH, BIRU, PUTIH terlibat kecelakaan sejumlah 27%
lebih rendah dari warna HITAM (622 banding 849)

Penilitan di RRC (Chung Hua University)
- Warna-warna mencolok (putih dan silver) membuat resiko terjadinya tabrakan frontal dan belakang lebih kecil, sedangkan hitam sebaliknya. Warna biru dan hijau berada diantaranya
- Tingkat laka terbanyak terjadi di pagi dan sore hari saat tingkat kewaspadaan berkurang seiring redupnya intensitas matahari sementara banyak mobil lampunya belum dinyalakan. Disarankan bagi mobil berwarna gelap lebih awal menyalakan lampu

Penelitian di Universitas Auckland (april 1998 - juni 1999; responden 571 org)
- warna silver menurunkan 50% kemungkinan kecelakaan serius daripada mobil putih
- warna gelap (hitam, coklat dan hijau) meningkatkan kemungkinan kecelakaan serius

Tapi....ya warna hitam itu lebih wibawa dan elegan... :mrgreen:[/quote]

halllooooo para pengguna mobil warna hitam.... hati2 lah... jangan lupa menghidupkan lampu waktu mulai pagi dan senja...
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
mandala1
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 7559
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:44

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by mandala1 »

maskopat wrote:
mandala1 wrote: Begitu juga dgn Panther, ada berapa variant yah? :mrgreen: koq ga menang2 :e-think:
kata siapa om.. panther sempet nomor 1 di MPV diesel... :big_weee: :big_weee:
bandingin dengan ipah or kapsul diesel... :big_weee: :big_weee:
baru sempet doang kan? ga bertahan? :) itu pun waktu masih belom banyak bejibun variannya...... :upss:
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

mungkin perlu diluruskan, maksudnya warna mobil yang terlibat kecelakaan.
soalnya kalo bagi yg naik mobil, ga beda mobilnya warna hitam apa ngga.
mandala1
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 7559
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:44

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by mandala1 »

maskopat wrote: emang berapa lama sih tahannya part made in japan??
oke.. tie rod, ball joint, idle arm ipah dan fortie.. tahan berapa lama tuh yang ori???

kayak tahan banting aja... tuh.. om iwang lagi cari crash test ipah dan portuner... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
cari gih....
Hueeeehehehe.........ngotot koq di pelihara!?? kan yg dari tadi ane omongin juga engine parts, bukan kaki2.....lagipula sejak kapan fortie pake idle arm? :e-doh:
Emang kaki2 PS bikinan mana? Hongkong? :upss:

Jelas lebih tahan lama made in japan dong ah.....toyota gitu loh....jual parts ga asal murah....yg penting kualitas no.wahid....
Canter? ihik....ihik.....seher koq ada merk PT. ...... (Perseroan Terbatas) = bahasa indonesia = buatan lokal = ga worth banget = daleman mesin gitu.....=cari untung gede = jual barang murah harga mahal = nipu = takut kalah sama barang kw = jual merk doang = :capede:
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

hushhhhh ntar ga laku loh dagangannya...
mandala1
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 7559
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:44

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by mandala1 »

maskopat wrote: halllooooo para pengguna mobil warna hitam.... hati2 lah... jangan lupa menghidupkan lampu waktu mulai pagi dan senja...
Pantesan mitsu bikin mobil warnanya norak2.... :mrgreen:
Perhatian2 kepada yth bapak Presiden, bpk2 Mentri, bpk2 Pejabat....harap hati2 yah kalo pake warna item,, karena banyak yg sirik,,
mandala1
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 7559
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:44

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by mandala1 »

GTR wrote:hushhhhh ntar ga laku loh dagangannya...
Gapapa om, lagian sebetulnya orang2 udah pada tau koq....ga masalah,, udah bukan rahasia lagi... :)
Cuma orang2 yg menutup matanya aja thd merk kebanggaan nya yg ga mau terima kenyataan :)
Kalo orang yg udah bener ngerti seluk beluk mobil nya apalagi di kalangan pemain mobil truk pasti udah tau sejak lama....
Ane cuma kasih pencerahan ke orang ngotot bin ajaib ini ttg bedanya sparepart asli japs n lokal,, :)
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

oh, yang made in thai kaya inopa fortuner itu juga masih made in japan nih om..
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

mandala1 wrote:
GTR wrote:hushhhhh ntar ga laku loh dagangannya...
Gapapa om, lagian sebetulnya orang2 udah pada tau koq....ga masalah,, udah bukan rahasia lagi... :)
Cuma orang2 yg menutup matanya aja thd merk kebanggaan nya yg ga mau terima kenyataan :)
Kalo orang yg udah bener ngerti seluk beluk mobil nya apalagi di kalangan pemain mobil truk pasti udah tau sejak lama....
Ane cuma kasih pencerahan ke orang ngotot bin ajaib ini ttg bedanya sparepart asli japs n lokal,, :)
tuh, kurang baek apa KTB sama om dal.. dikasih sparepart yang jelek.. jadi sebentar rusak.. mampir deh ke toko mandala... untung di ente kan???

emang tahan berapa lama sih seher, piston canter? dibanding dyna, hino??? sampe 2x lipatnya? harganya?
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

mandala1 wrote:
maskopat wrote:
mandala1 wrote: Begitu juga dgn Panther, ada berapa variant yah? :mrgreen: koq ga menang2 :e-think:
kata siapa om.. panther sempet nomor 1 di MPV diesel... :big_weee: :big_weee:
bandingin dengan ipah or kapsul diesel... :big_weee: :big_weee:
baru sempet doang kan? ga bertahan? :) itu pun waktu masih belom banyak bejibun variannya...... :upss:
emang ente yakin nih ipah diesel lebih laku daripada panther? yakin banget??
jangan bandingin panther dengan ipah ya.. tapi ipah diesel..
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by maskopat »

GTR wrote:oh, yang made in thai kaya inopa fortuner itu juga masih made in japan nih om..
rakitan thai.. spare part kalo kata om dal buatan jepang...
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
GTR
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 5168
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26

Re: [WTA] Fortuner Diesel or Captiva Diesel or Everest Diesel?

Post by GTR »

maskopat wrote:
GTR wrote:oh, yang made in thai kaya inopa fortuner itu juga masih made in japan nih om..
rakitan thai.. spare part kalo kata om dal buatan jepang...
maksudnya apa buatan thai ya, soalnya kan dirancang toyota thai..