Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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@ bro jalu. waduh aku tambah bingung nih, soalnya aku awam banget tentang mesin tapi makasih banget infonya. nanti aku coba tanya ke bengkel langganan. oh ya.. aku juga tanya ke beres banjarmasin nggak bisa jawab tentang modif trans. manual ke matic.
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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yang elegan style bagus harga sampai berapa ya? kalo ada polisi tidur atau batu atau jalan rusak nyangkut kali ya? (tapi aku tetep fokus ke maticnya dulu)
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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@yandafaiz: maaf kalo saya sotoy......intinya gini bro, girbok manual itu gak bisa dimodif menjadi matic, yang ada yaitu girbok manual bawaan mobil diganti dengan girbok matic. Untuk ganti girbok tsb tentunya kita harus memperhitungkan mengenai dudukannya ke mesin, mounting, komponen2 yang berhubungan dll.

Alangkah beruntungnya kita jika mobil yang kita miliki ternyata ada varian lain yang matic atau mobil type lain yang bermesin sama dan girboks matic, contohnya misalkan suzuki swift manual mau dirubah jadi matic...ya simpelnya tinggal nyari girbok copotan swift matic untuk dipasang di swift manual (itu contoh sederhana ya, meski pada prakteknya banyak hal2 yang mesti dikerjakan)

Nah kendala kita disini adalah sepertinya tidak ada girbok matic untuk mesin F10D bawaan karimun estilo, kalopun mau kreatif bisa saja sih nyomot girbok matic dari mobil lain dengan tipe mesin yang berbeda tapi hal itu membutuhkan modifikasi yang cukup rumit. Jadi solusi yang reasonable adalah mengganti mesin bawaan mobil dengan mesin lain lengkap dengan girbok maticnya.

Saya menyarankan ganti mesin K6A lengkap dng griboks matic dengan alasan karena mesin itulah yang dipakai oleh suzuki mr wagon di jepang (karlo-nya jepang), dengan basic mobil yang sama persis, tentunya proses swap bisa jadi lebih mudah.

Sementara om poetic menyarankan untuk ganti mesin dengan M15A (ex baleno) plus girbok matic krn memang sudah dibuktikan bahwa mesin tsb bisa terpasang dengan baik di karimun estilo, dalam catatan ada beberapa bagian yang mesti dirombak untuk mengakomodir mesin tsb.

Mohon dikoreksi kalo ada yang ngawur yah.... :mrgreen:
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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he3x.. orang awan jadi salah ngomong nih.. maap ya

@om jalu. makasih masukannya. oh.. aku kira ada tuh ada girbok yang cocok. kalo ganti mesin 1unit mahal dong.. sampai berapa ya harganya?
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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@yandafaiz:sepertinya tidak ada girbok yang cocok bro..kalo ada mungkin dari tahun lalu saya udah ganti :big_slap:

mengenai harga terus terang saya gak bisa jawab,hehehe... :mrgreen: boleh dicoba kontak www.indomesin.com untuk dapet info harga mesin K6A + girbok matic komplit dng mounting, wiring, ECU dll.

atau mungkin pakar2 mesin di SM bisa coba bantu info harga mesin plus biaya pasang, asumsi saya sih harga ezclutch vs engine swap hampir mirip.
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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sudah 5 kali kontak indomesin di 021-87743487 gak ada yang angkat. tutup kali ya?
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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tanya ke telkom dikasih nomor indomesin 021-6602923 nggak sambung juga.
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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aku coba telpon di nomor fak. 021-87744914 baru bisa sambung. info yang aku dapat untuk sementara nggak import mesin mobil karena sekarang prosesnya sulit. kemungkinan tahun depan baru coba import mesin mobil lagi. untuk sekarang yang ada cuma mesin genset aja. begitu sekilas info.
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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yandafaiz wrote:tanya ke telkom dikasih nomor indomesin 021-6602923 nggak sambung juga.
hmm...ada apa yah, kalo misalkan dah tutup tapi websitenya masih update.

atau coba hubungi om ansor di ESIA 0254-9101666 jgn lupa depannya pake 01010 + kode Area + no tujuan

bisa juga baca2 di http://www.modifikasi.com/showthread.php?t=15698

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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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jalu wrote: atau mungkin pakar2 mesin di SM bisa coba bantu info harga mesin plus biaya pasang, asumsi saya sih harga ezclutch vs engine swap hampir mirip.
beda... swap lebih mahal pastinya. tergantung jenis mesin..
kalo mau diswap, ambil G15a punya baleno milenium... (sebelum nextg), sekitar 14jt sudah lengkap dari mesin, ecu, discbrake, transmisi matic dan pemasangan serta seting.
sebenernya ga selalu harus engine suzuki, dai honda juga bisa. :)
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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Nah pakar sudah berbicara..... :frm_tumbright:
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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baaaaaaa! bukan pakar, cuma kebetulan tau aja... hehe! :)
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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poeticmind wrote:baaaaaaa! bukan pakar, cuma kebetulan tau aja... hehe! :)
nah kebetulan yang saya tau om poetic itu pakar..gmn atuh..?? :big_peace:
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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Om poetic bukan pakar............tapi dewa nya swap :mrgreen: .... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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yandafaiz wrote:aku coba telpon di nomor fak. 021-87744914 baru bisa sambung. info yang aku dapat untuk sementara nggak import mesin mobil karena sekarang prosesnya sulit. kemungkinan tahun depan baru coba import mesin mobil lagi. untuk sekarang yang ada cuma mesin genset aja. begitu sekilas info.
Info yg sy denger juga begitu om......tapi mungkin om poetic bisa bantu kalo emang berminat,, bukan begitu om poet??? :)
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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hmm,, kayanya di indo yang bakal keluar karlo gen3 maksudna mr.wagon kali yah?

wah om yandafaiz mantep nih, lgs maen swap,, tar postingin disini cerita2nya yah om?

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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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KIOS3R wrote:hmm,, kayanya di indo yang bakal keluar karlo gen3 maksudna mr.wagon kali yah?

wah om yandafaiz mantep nih, lgs maen swap,, tar postingin disini cerita2nya yah om?

@ om kadal1: kalo om mandala dewa mabok y :drinking:
apa mungkin ini yang akan jadi karlo gen-3 ? (MR Wagon MF22S)

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kayanya nggak om,, Gen.3 yang gw liat (yah maksudna yg kita liat di milis) sama bgt kaya karlo skr,, hanya ada beberapa perubahan yang amat minim,,,
btw itu foto varian mr.wagon terbaru yah om? gw bingung uy, mr.wagon jepang persis bgt ama karlo, sedangkan india jg punya zen estilo,, kembar bgt luarnya,, dalemnya entah... tampaknya harus pakar suzuki yang menjelaskan (baca : pak putik) :big_weee:
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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waduh.. om jalu.. photo mr wagon -nya bikin ngiler dech..
@om poetic: yang paling ekonomis (pemasangan & maintenancenya) pakai engine apa yah? tapi kalo bisa juga kenceng kalo di geber..
lam juga tuk om kios3r & om mandala
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salam bro yandafaiz, kalo boleh tau nama aslinya sapa yah?
mo coba bantu jawab pertanyaan : kalo mau ekonomisnya sih pasti disarankan pake G15 mesin baleno, SOHC, enak buat dalem kota, masih tergolong irit, tapi kalo mau sering keluar kota lebih disarankan pake M15A (atau kalo ada dana lebih pake M16) mesin swift, DOHC, buat dalem kota malah terkesan lebih boros, tapi buat perjalanan jauh lebih enak dibanding G15,,,

kalo mo kenceng geber sih M16 aja om (mesin swift) :big_weee:
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koq stngah keblakang mirip atoz yah..trus handle pintu mirip visto.. :e-think:
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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@ om andi, menurut gw malah mirip suzuki splash om

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SOL ap ya bro kios :e-think:
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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KIOS3R wrote:kayanya nggak om,, Gen.3 yang gw liat (yah maksudna yg kita liat di milis) sama bgt kaya karlo skr,, hanya ada beberapa perubahan yang amat minim,,,
btw itu foto varian mr.wagon terbaru yah om? gw bingung uy, mr.wagon jepang persis bgt ama karlo, sedangkan india jg punya zen estilo,, kembar bgt luarnya,, dalemnya entah... tampaknya harus pakar suzuki yang menjelaskan (baca : pak putik) :big_weee:
meski body sama, ternyata bentuk dasbor beda,

ini dasbor Mr Wagon (MF21S) JDM (udah pake woodpanel) :
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sedangkan ini dasbor zen estilo yang merupakan kembaran karimun estilo :
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Re: Modif Suzuki Karlo F10D

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hiks,, kok tiba2 setiap liat gambar gambar uploadan om jalu mendadak sedih yah,,, :ungg:
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