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Future Battle: Pajero Sport 3.2 vs Fortuner 3.0 D4D

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Kita masih menanti kehadiran keturunan si badak Triton ke tanah air, katanya pertengahan tahun...dan baru gosip Fortuner 3.0 akan turun ke Indonesia. Ini review dr Thailand...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/141108_Motor ... otor58.php
MITSUBISHI PAJERO SPORT VS TOYOTA FORTUNER

PRINCE OF ROCK

The Mitsubishi Pajero Sport aims to knock Toyota Fortuner off the mass SUV throne with loads of practicality. Can it succeed?

Why are they here?

Forget Isuzu MU-7 and Ford Everest if you care to prioritise comfort on your upcountry holidays (see sidebar at the bottom).
The first pickup-based SUV that has taken advantage of new PPV (passenger pickup vehicle) rules for some years now is the Fortuner which just received a facelift a couple of months back. The range-topper tested here is the 3.0V Navi version with 163hp 3.0-litre turbo-diesel, four-speed auto, full-time 4WD, DVD player and GPS navigator costing B1.419m.

Now a new contender has arrived in the form of Mitsubishi's Triton-based Pajero Sport with rear coil springs.
This one is also the top of its range; 3.2 GT 4WD with 165hp 3.2-litre turbo-diesel, four-speed auto with manual shift, part-time 4WD and DVD player for B1.24m.
They are both seven-seat SUVs primarily targeting one-car families seeking a multi-purpose vehicle for both daily commutes and weekend holidays on all types of terrain. Less so but not neglectably do they serve as cost-effective weekend getaway vehicle for families with one or more passenger cars in the driveway.

What do our hearts say?

Four years on and the Toyota Fortuner is still good-looking - partly due to the recent facelift - thanks to its first-generation Lexus RX300/Merc M-class-like exterior design. There's no doubt the Mitsubishi Triton base vehicle is a looker among all the eight pickup manufacturers here today. But the Pajero Sport is not that captivating in the flesh, especially when compared side-by-side with the Fortuner, as we did.

But inside, it's a different story. Whereas the Toyota looks so mature and boring, the Mitsubishi feels fresh, young yet elegant in a classier SUV kind of way.

Get moving and the story is different again. We learn of the Fortuner's superior performance in a straight line despite marginally lower horsepower and full-time 4WD that was theoretically supposed to sap away more power from the engine than one running on RWD, as the Pajero Sport was in our runs.

Then all the lane changes and high-speed corners we encountered on the way from Bangkok to Kanchanaburi confirmed our suspicion that the Fortuner still holds its own in the steering and handling departments.

On the sealed tarmac, the Toyota has better control over changes in direction and braking within the legal speeds. Now it's the Mitsubishi that is average in brake feel. Both come with harsh ride. Before you ask, we can answer straight away that yes, the Mitsubishi has a comfier ride, but only if you are okay with its rather unshapely front seats. However, fellow testers swear that the Pajero Sport's second row seats are better than in the Fortuner.

We wish we could test out the differences the two types of drivetrains offer. But in the kind of real-world driving, we did include 99% on-road and 1% off-road, which is representative of the majority of SUV owners residing in Bangkok.

Space is sufficient, despite smaller size. Seats are a tad more comfortable here.

Our hardest on-road trial was a steep incline of approximately 45 degrees with concrete surface barely taken by any vehicle.
Both managed to climb it with engine speed at a steady 2,000rpm in D and 4L.
In 4H, the Pajero Sport needed a little more throttle than the Fortuner with its permanent 4H. But in 2H, it could still make it provided you get some run-on approaching the ascent. Just that the Mitsubishi engine makes more annoying clatter at the same rev.

Take them off-road and the differences are more clear. Rocky terrain puts off the Toyota more with its more sensitive steering, so the steering wheel constantly kicks in your hands. The Mitsubishi is more at ease on the same stuff inspite of being rack-and-pinion type as well.

The 50mm longer wheelbase of the Mitsubishi over exactly the same 4,690mm body length enabled it to go bumps with more control and comfort. It is possible, in theory, for an experienced off-road driver to gain from the Pajero Sport's unique feature of locking the centre differential.

In short, both should be able to go where most owners dare to take them.

What do our heads tell?

The Pajero Sport's almost flat floor when the second and third rows are flipped and folded is one of the practical features that would appeal to quite a few buyers who use an SUV to shove some furniture and garden items once in a while.

At city speeds, though, driving the Pajero Sport in RWD mode is easier with less steering effort required and the 10cm tighter turning radius than the Fortuner. No one needs full-time 4WD in the city and on the dry. But if fuel consumption is not worse, then that is no bad thing. On identical routes, our test Pajero Sport did 10.6km to a litre of diesel in RWD/2H mode while the Fortuner managed 11.9 in its permanent 4H mode. This kind of result could be attributed to the Mitsubishi's aging engine.

Does that hidden advantage justify the B179,000 price difference?

Not really, even when you consider that it has a built-in touch-screen navigator function on its 7-inch screen - something you can get for less with after-market systems.

But then the Fortuner has more tricks up its sleeve - stability control and brake assist - safety systems standard in the range-topping V variant not found at all in the Pajero Sport whose ABS and EBD are otherwise on par with the Toyota.

That also explains the Fortuner's higher price.

What do we really care for?

We expect many casual drivers to be taken away by the Pajero Sport's appeal, interior feel, practicality and, for those who have actually driven it, ride comfort. Some would even buy it just to be different, or because it sells for less than the Toyota.

We do not possess an ego consistent with the former, but one argument for the latter would be the non-navigator V variant that goes for B1.309m yet retains all drivetrain and hardware as the range-topper's.

Money aside, with the Fortuner you get better on-road driving manners - which is where the majority of your driving takes place - better level of safety hardware and better fuel consumption. The latter two qualities can justify the extra money spent.

And so it seems the Toyota Fortuner cannot yet be rightfully replaced as the prince of SUV in Thailand.
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Re: Future Battle: Pajero Sport 3.2 vs Fortuner 3.0 D4D

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jadi kesimpulan
tenaga enak fortuner
comfort bagusan pajero ya

sebetulnya ditambah lagi everest tuh
kan katanya taun depan jg mau facelift
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kalo saya mah, semuanya SUKAAA.. everest, PS, 42ner.. :big_peace:

bawa everest AT, gak kerasa udah 150kpj di tol ancol padahal sendirian.. :big_slap:
dan itu pun, rasanya masih bisa lebih kalo bejek gas lebih dalem..

tapi pas ngerem mendadak, baru deh berasanya bawa truk :big_weee:
panjang bener jarak remnya. maklum, di kec 140kpj.. judulnya mau ngasepin 42ner 2.7, tapi ternyata di tol, ada orang jalan kaki.. :big_slap:

kalo saya duga, pernah test drive L200 Strada, kayaknya mesin evie lebih gahar daripada Strada. jadi kemungkinan, kalo mesin akan lebih sangar evie daripada PS. ini di trek on road ya.. :e-whistle: :e-whistle:
gak tahu 42ner D4D 3.0 intercooler...
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He he...namanya juga mobil tinggi bos...Everest sih sebenernya OK mobilnya dan jelas masuk mobil tangguh, cuman udah pertarungan lama.
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evolution21 wrote:jadi kesimpulan
tenaga enak fortuner
comfort bagusan pajero ya

sebetulnya ditambah lagi everest tuh
kan katanya taun depan jg mau facelift
kalo baca review ini, jadi bingung.. apakah mitsubishi udah beralih ke mobil nyaman ya? :e-think: :e-think:
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Ya nggak juga lah bro...Pajero Sport tetep off-roader handal...dan tough SUV. Keturunan Triton kok diremehkan hehe...
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udah mulai diimport nih:
http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/04/15/10 ... jero-sport
PT Krama Yudha Tiga Berlian (KTB) yang merupakan agen mobil Mitsubishi di Indonesia telah mengajukan izin impor Pajero Sport kepada Departemen Perindustrian.

Dalam dokumen yang diperoleh detikOto, Pajero sport yang akan diimpor adalah Pajero Sport bermesin 2,5 liter diesel yang merupakan salah satu varian dari Pajero Sport 7 Seater.

KTB mengajukan izin impor untuk 2.400 unit Pajero Sport yang terdiri dari 360 unit Pajero Sport 4x4, dan 2.040 unit Pajero Sport 4x2. KTB sebelumnya menguji Pajero Sport pada bulan Januari 2009 lalu.
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Tapi gambar di artikelnya ngaco :D
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FortunerMan wrote:Tapi gambar di artikelnya ngaco :D
tulisannya juga ada yang ngaco Om... :big_peace:
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Bagian mana yg ngaco? Masih pagi nih belon melek....
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maskopat wrote:
evolution21 wrote:jadi kesimpulan
tenaga enak fortuner
comfort bagusan pajero ya

sebetulnya ditambah lagi everest tuh
kan katanya taun depan jg mau facelift
kalo baca review ini, jadi bingung.. apakah mitsubishi udah beralih ke mobil nyaman ya? :e-think: :e-think:
itu gw simpulkan dari tulisan artikel diatas aja kok bro
tapi baca di beberapa review majalah juga banyak yg mengatakan
strada triton nyaman dikendarai

nyobain sendiri si blon pernah bro
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FortunerMan wrote:Bagian mana yg ngaco? Masih pagi nih belon melek....
yang ini om...
Dan bila memang benar SUV ini nantinya hadir ke pasar otomotif Indonesia,
dipastikan harganya akan langsung melonjak tajam. Sebab Pajero Sport 5 Seater yang saat ini beredar saja harganya telah mencapai lebih dari Rp 1 miliar.
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Eh navara (170hp 400nm) tuh gahar 6speed pula, jalan tol lewat..xixixixix. Cuma boros emang trus butuh PerDeX
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aldy wrote:Eh navara (170hp 400nm) tuh gahar 6speed pula, jalan tol lewat..xixixixix. Cuma boros emang trus butuh PerDeX
Yup....setuju, emang kalo buat kelas double cab Frontier Navara emang paling gahar lah..... :frm_tumbright:
Tapi skr kita lagi bahas ttg SUV dulu :) Jadi kalo menurut bro aldy lebih mantap mana nih antara Fortuner 3.0 dan Pajero Sport? :e-dance:
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mandala1 wrote:
aldy wrote:Eh navara (170hp 400nm) tuh gahar 6speed pula, jalan tol lewat..xixixixix. Cuma boros emang trus butuh PerDeX
Yup....setuju, emang kalo buat kelas double cab Frontier Navara emang paling gahar lah..... :frm_tumbright:
Tapi skr kita lagi bahas ttg SUV dulu :) Jadi kalo menurut bro aldy lebih mantap mana nih antara Fortuner 3.0 dan Pajero Sport? :e-dance:
denger2 kabar, PS rentang harganya di 350-450 jt nih.. ada yang nyesel gak ya udah ambil fortuner? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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350-450 jt? yg boneng Om?.....denger2 malah > 500jt...
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Abu2 wrote:350-450 jt? yg boneng Om?.....denger2 malah > 500jt...
itu yang ane baca di majalah a...b..d edisi 16 may ini.
kalo taksiran ane sih mungkin aja. karena di thailand sendiri, harga PS kira2 1/3 - 1/4 pajero exceed.

untuk pastinya, kita tunggu akhir juli aja.. tinggal 2 bulan lagi koq.. :big_peace:
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mau uji coba nih PS...
http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/05/19/14 ... gera-hadir
Dalam undangan yang diterima detikOto, Selasa (19/5/2009), rencananya KTB akan mempersilakan para jurnalis nasional untuk merasakan sensasi mengendarai mobil terbaru ini di daerah Cikampek pada 26 Mei 2009 mendatang.
koq SMers gak diundang ya?? :off_no: :off_no:
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Kapan ya di pamerin di mall2...pengen liat tampang luarnya aja....kalo dalemnya sih udah sering liat di Triton, mesin 4D56 semua org juga udah tau badak.
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nice posting...makasi!
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gw pilih pajero aja.... lebih keren..
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cvsmb wrote:gw pilih pajero aja.... lebih keren..
krn dah bosen lihat 42ner dijalan :big_peace:
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