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Asking: Kenapa pake HID batok lampunya jadi leleh?

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Mo nanya nih, aku sudah sekitar 3,5 th pakai lampu hid.
Batok reflektornya sekarang jadi kuning (lapisan cerminnya hilang) kok bisa terjadi?
Padahal lampu HID khan wattage-nya lebih kecil dari halogen standar?
35watt versus 55watt.
Lampu HID-ku 6500K H4 Hi-Lo.
Mobilku Honda CRV th 2002. Aku beli dari baru mobil ini.
Apa SMers ada yang tahu bagaimana cara menghindarinya/solusinya?
Mobil Innovaku juga begitu, malah lebih parah.
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Wah serius nih pak ?

Kalau nggak keberatan bisa posting foto gbr. reflektor head lamp yg jadi berubah itu ?

Yg Innova nya juga sama ? Udah berapa tahun ?
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kalo punya saya hid nya malah berubah warna,yang 1 putih,yang 1 nya putih ada kehijau2 an diki.
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Bung turboman, nanti ya aku foto gambarnya.
Yang innova baru 1,5 tahun (2004 bulan 12) bung.

Bung mpoezz, merk apa hidnya?
Punya oe msh putih sampe sekarang. Malah warna sinarnya jadi kuning gara gara batok lampunya.

Ini aku lagi cari tukang lampu yang mungkin bisa bersiin batoknya, nggak tahu bisa nggak.
Kalo nggak bisa, wah alamat beli satu set lampu depan nih. uhuk uhuk....
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punya saya super vision pak,sama kayak punya situ juga hi ama lo.

kalo ngak salah biar pun watt nya kecil tapi xenon itu panas lo.ato mungkin salah pemasangan lampunya pak
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Post by ahbeng »

kemungkinan sih salah pemasangan atau bohlam HIDnya kegeser posisi dudukannya sehingga terlalu dekat dgn proyektor(lensa)nya

coba di post ya picnya :)
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Ini aku post gambarnya.
Pemasangan aku rasa udah bener kok. Khan kalau salah pemasangannya, lampu nggak mungkin bisa duduk dengan benar.
Bagaimana menurut kalian setelah melihat photonya?
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Aneh sekali... baru liat yg spt ini ... pdhal emang cuma 35w dan harusnya kalo standar 55w aja bisa kenapa yg 35w begitu ya ? hmmm ...
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HID makin menjamur

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Karena semakin banyak alternatif merk HID, saya sarankan yang ada garansi aja...... :e-naughty: sayang kalo sampe leleh karena invest nya juga mahal.... :e-dance:
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Dulu saya juga pernah pakai di CRV 2002 yg Philips 6000k tapi gak pernah sampai meleleh, cuma suka ngadat suka mati sebelah tapi kalau dimatiin trus nyalain lagi baru mau nyala sebelahnya
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klo gw ga salah liad kmaren headlight mobil ane juga bernasib yg sama.. pdhl headlight mobil gw masih buatan jepang bkn thailand/taiwan.. en depannya masih kaca... sedih deh gw.. moga2 kmaren kacanya kotor doang.. nanti gw mo liat lagi ah..

klo beneran kebakar/rusak.. sedih juga.. padahal baru pasang hid sekitar 7 bulan.. tp umur mobil/batok lampu nya dah mayan tua sih.. dah 6 taun lebih.. hiksss

aneh, padahal klo udah nyala lama, kacanya tuh gw pegang.. ga panas sama sekali, cuman anget dikit doang.. beda dgn halogen.. ga bisa dipegang lama2.. hiiks2.. knapa begini ya?
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g pake vision 1 taun jebol... skr pake philips (ballast nya)..bohlam tetep vision.. tp kadang sebelah putih..sebelah sedikit pink.. aneh.. -_-

HID harusnya lebi dingin dari halogen...

tp anehnya reflektor g sebelah kanan agak gosong.. yg kiri nggak (yg kiri pake toyota - japan).. yg kanan masi asli toyota - thai :(
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Post by msm »

eh teman teman bener jangan pake hid conversion kit. terbukti menyebabkan batok lampu gosong.
nanti aku posting gambar yang aku ambil dr thread lain.
Aku barusan ambil Yaris, terus hari ini baru pasang udah kelihatan mulai gosong.
Apalagi jgn pake hid yg 50WATT!

Bung Tesna, kalo boleh tahu mobilnya apa?

Di thread itu nggak disebutin apa yang menyebabkan gosong.

Gimana teman ada solusinya nggak?
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mobil ane galant st (hiu) bro..
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Post by sugarfree »

jawaban:

well, gw ga yakin jg ini bener ato nggak... tp ini disebabkan dr temperatur kerja lampu tsb. lampu hid punya rating pake *****K. nah, 'K' itu artinya kelvin, which means.... satuan suhu. semakin tinggi angkanya, semakin tinggi temperatur kerja tsb. kalo lo org ada yg ambil ipa ato kuliah di jurusan teknik (ato elektro??) ada dipelajarin tentang gelombang cahaya dan temperatur cahaya.

semakin terang cahaya lampunya, semakin panas temperatur kerjanya. jadiiii..... begitulah dr hasil pengamatan gw.

batok lampu biasanya dibuat dari plastik ABS. kemudian, lapisan krom itu cuma cat doang. sooo... kl kena panas berlebihan dan terus menerus pasti ada cacat prematur di batok lampu tsb.

semoga lbh jelas dan kl ada yg sala, tolong di koreksi....
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bknnya K (kelvin) itu cuman jelasin warna cahayanya ya? klo makin tinggi makin panas, berarti makin tinggi K nya makin terang en panas dong?

Tp kenyataannya lumens (intensitas cahaya) terbanyak ada di HID 4300K jika dibandingkan dgn 6000K, 8000K dst. Makin tinggi K nya, makin rendah lumens nya.
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Post by satyr »

K itu cuma menunjukkan pola warna nya..

6000 K di headlamp??? u must be kidding.. itu temperatur permukaan matahari :D :D :D

12000K udah mendekati inti matahari !!!!! :D
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Post by sugarfree »

oh... rili?
huahahaha... kl gitu gw sala


eniwei, its what i found on the net
Whiter light. The color temperature of HID lighting more closely approximates the color temperature of natural daylight than does a halogen system, which appears yellowish in comparison. We use the term "correlated color temperature" to indicate that the light appears as if the discharge lamp is operating at a given color temperature-- traditional measurements of color temperature are drawn from the properties of the metal used in the bulb's filament. Typical color temperatures are 2800K (incandescent), 3000K (halogen), 4100K (cool white or SP41 fluorescent), and 5000K (daylight-simulating fluorescent colors). Both of the Halcyon HID lights produce a light with a color temperature approaching or above 5000K. A white light has a perceived brightness which may equate to the higher stated efficacies-- ie., although an HID lamp might have equivilant lumens as a higher wattage halogen bulb, the HID will appear brighter and more pleasing to the eye than the output of a halogen lamp.
from: http://www.halcyon.net/lights/hid-faq.shtml
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Post by msm »

aku ada rencana untuk meretrofit lampuku menggunakan projector headlight.
Tapi dengan konsekuensi high beam-nya hilang.

Bung Tesna sekalian ikut aja ganti seperti lampu ini khan lebih keren.

ini linknya:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showth ... d+retrofit
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msm wrote:aku ada rencana untuk meretrofit lampuku menggunakan projector headlight.
Tapi dengan konsekuensi high beam-nya hilang.

Bung Tesna sekalian ikut aja ganti seperti lampu ini khan lebih keren.

ini linknya:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showth ... d+retrofit
yeah.. itu sih gw dari dulu jg pengen, cuman nyari projector nya itu susah di indo.. di malaysia sih byk.. murah pula! 450 ringgit (sekitar 1,125 juta) dah dapet 2 projector xenon copotan, beserta sepasang lampu D2S + ballast copotan! gilee ga tuh.. tinggal ongkos naro di headlamp ori. Klo di saya sih berhubung low-beam en hi-beam lampunya terpisah, kalau pengen retrofit hi-beam nya ngga hilang hihihihi :)

klo bro punya info dmn bisa dapet projectornya bagi2 donk! hehehe saya udah pusing nyari2 ni di indo...
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Re: Asking: Kenapa pake HID batok lampunya jadi leleh?

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topic 2 tahun yang lalu nii..
gmana yang ud pake hid 35watt? batoknya aman2 aja??
daftar sini yaa, buat nambah uang bulanan
sini :D
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semuanya ud di test..
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Re: Asking: Kenapa pake HID batok lampunya jadi leleh?

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masi aman pak
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yg lebih aman pakai bi-xenon projector plug & play :P
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Re: Asking: Kenapa pake HID batok lampunya jadi leleh?

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Ni topic rada aneh sebenernya.. Nggak logis..

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Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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ini biasanya terjadi karena sebelumnya memakai halogen watt tinggi, 100/90 dan sejenisnya. dan rflektor sudah rusak duluan kena panas, lapisan reflektornya sudah kena. jadi sewaktu pasang hid reflektornya kuning terkena panas...

pernah terjadi di mobil teman, saya kira sih seperti itu ya... but kalo rusak gara2 hid sangat jarang, kecuali batok lokal/taiwan..mungkin saja. kejadian seperti ini dialami 1 dari 100users yg pake hid, so wajar2 saja. ga semua batok pabrikan sempurna...

sebab yg lain adalah produk hid, meski di labelnya 35watt, ini BELUM TENTU 35watt. karena utk menyaingi penjualan di pasar, mereka menggunakan hid 55watt dan dilabel dengan 35watt. dan jangan heran kalo hid 55watt sering bermasalah... karena batokan standar tidak dirancang utk panas 55watt pada hid, tapi halogen type.
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