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Di sini ada link yg mendiskusikan superioritas kualitas gambar yg diperoleh dr camera dslr Sony A700 over Canon cameras in general
http://www.kamera-digital.com/forum/vie ... 454&page=0
http://www.dynaxdigital.com/index.php/topic,3925.0.html
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Disini jg ada perbandingan Sony A700 vs. Nikon D300, lg lg menunjukkan bahwa warna yg di captured olh camera Sony A700 itu sgt akurat, lbh akurat drpd Nikon D300.
http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2007/11/0 ... iso-12800/
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Belum bro esh, gw belum beli camera DSLRnya, rencananya mo nunggu pameran kamera di Jakarta Convention Center tgl 25 Feb ini, lg ngeharapin Canon, Nikon ato Sony ada promo gitu, kali aja dpt lensa gratis, ato ada potongan harga, ato bahkan kaos en SPG gratis, hehe :mrgreen:
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Di salah satu forum, dikatakan bahwa ada bocoran dr org dlm Sony kalo mrk akan meluncurkan A700x ato A800, seru jg kl diluncurin dlm waktu dekat, stidaknya bs lsg gw jadikan sbg perbandingan.
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TiongBahru_Ahbeng wrote:...... ato bahkan kaos en SPG gratis, hehe :mrgreen:
yah... ini sih kagak lupa ya... lensa gratisnya ditinggal. :e-doh:
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TiongBahru_Ahbeng wrote:Di salah satu forum, dikatakan bahwa ada bocoran dr org dlm Sony kalo mrk akan meluncurkan A700x ato A800, seru jg kl diluncurin dlm waktu dekat, stidaknya bs lsg gw jadikan sbg perbandingan.
rumor spek a800
Sony A800 rumors have picked up over the past couple of days. And there appears to be a couple of different (yet similar) specification lists floating around.
Sony A800 Rumored Specs (version 1)

* body design similar to A700
* 100% OVF (pentaprism bigger than A700)
* 15.2Mp APS-C CMOS
* ISO 200-6400 expandable to 100 & 12800
* Quick LV
* flippable back LCD
* 6.5 frame per second
* New high speed flash sync
* 9 double cross f/2.8 AF sensor (23 total AF sensor)
* New metering and AF sensor with tracking and previous focus
* Dual AF Ultra-Speed motor ??
* Wi-Fi built-in
* Dual memory card slot CF & MS
* New battery
* A700 grip will be compatible
* micro AF adjustment
* full function eyestarter (pre-focus)

(via DPR)
Sony A800 Rumored Specs (version 2)

* 15.2Mpx APS-C CMOS Exmor “R” sensor
* ISO 100-12.800
* 6.5 frame per second
* New high speed flash sync
* 9 double cross f/2.8 AF sensor (23 total AF sensor)
* New metering and AF sensor with tracking and previous focus
* Dual AF Ultr-Speed motor ??
* Wi-Fi built-in

(via Photofan.jp)

If anything, I think the first spec list is a crock. The second list, however, seems doable, and in line with the competition from Canon and Nikon.

The first list looks like someone took version 2 and added in a wish list of features. I don’t see how Sony could possibly stuff a 100% viewfinder and their quick AF Live View into one pentaprism. It’s just impractical from a design standpoint. Sony’s quick AF Live View requires a second sensor in the pentaprism to capture the image for Live View display. That’s a lot of hardware up around the viewfinder. I could see one or the other in the A800, but not both.

All in all, these rumors (or version 2 anyway) are in line with the email tip that I received from someone who provided accurate info on the A900 that the entire Sony Alpha DSLR lineup will be replaced in 2009.

Presumably, the Sony A800 would replace the Sony A700, which has been around for a year and a half now. Seeing as how the A700 features a 12.24 megapixel CMOS sensor, I think a jump up to 15 megapixels would be rather conservative in light of the never-ending megapixel wars. PMA 2009 is just over a month away, so it shouldn’t be too much longer until we know what Sony and everyone else has up their sleeves.

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pusing jg kalo bandingin serie ini type itu..

menurut gw, secara canon dan nikon udah lebih piawai urusan camera dan lens, mending pilih di antara ini berdua daripada merk jepang lain, tapi bukan berati merk lain kurang bagus. Kedua merk ini yg sering bersaing dan sering banget di test majalah photography. belum lagi jaringan dealer disini jg harus diperhitungin.
Utk bandingan noise, akalin pake lowest iso aja kalo bisa. Kalo ga salah nikon lebih bagus utk low noise nya, tp lupa type yg mana.
namun kalo canon banyak yg bilang hasil image nya soft.
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Saya sih cuma mau bilang 1 hal.

Camera DSLR hasilnya akan bagus, semuanya tergantung dari penggunanya(photographer) n adaptasi terhadap cameranya sendiri(userfriendlyness).

Kalau camera DSLR dicoba n dipke di mode Auto, lah mending beli camera pocket aja donk?

DSLR kan kegunaannya untuk dipke manual n menghasilkan gambar yang tajam, plus untuk panning, foto model dll yang pastinya lebih bagus dari camera pocket. Toh para professional photographer, juga tidak menggunakan Mode Auto pas ambil gambar, semua pasti manual mode.

IMHO aja y. Jangan tersinggung.

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Yup, setuju banget sama naldo.

Kadang2 suka bingung sama orang2 yang beli DSLR, tapi selalu pake mode A (Auto). Apa coba gunanya? Cuma mo keliatan keren, kali. Tapi kalo ditantangin pake mode M (Manual) gelagapan.
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Ryan Steele wrote::off_good:
Yup, setuju banget sama naldo.

Kadang2 suka bingung sama orang2 yang beli DSLR, tapi selalu pake mode A (Auto). Apa coba gunanya? Cuma mo keliatan keren, kali. Tapi kalo ditantangin pake mode M (Manual) gelagapan.
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ane juga setuju ama dik naldo, yg penting man behind the gun, bukan man behind gokart................................. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

bukan mo keliatan keren, tapi mo keliatan spt propesional, padahal banyak nyang kaga tau apa2, jadi pakenye selalu auto..... hehehe.......... :big_peace:
mode M (manual) itu cocok untuk objek yg diam ato kaga bergerak, tapi coba ajah klo potoin orang lagi pesta, bisa2 ketinggalan momennya, krn harus mengatur speed, diafragma dll........... :ungg:
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Kalo buat orang kawin, bisa pke mode Sport, or Speed priority. Kalo butuh bukaan cahaya, pke Aperture priority. Memang kalo M bisa ketinggalan momen. Tapi di track macam sentul, M paling berguna. Makanya sebelum foto mobil/motor, coba2 foto dulu, kegelapan or keterangan, coba sekali, kecepatan apa kelambatan(yang penting background blur).

DLL.

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Yup... Rata2 fotografer mentok2 pake mode Aperture Priority ato Speed Priority.
Setubuh............ Eh, maksud gw, setuju gw sama lo, Naldo...

Naldo, sang fotografer...

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Ryan Steele wrote:Yup... Rata2 fotografer mentok2 pake mode Aperture Priority ato Speed Priority.
Setubuh............ Eh, maksud gw, setuju gw sama lo, Naldo...

Naldo, sang fotografer...

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bearti nt kaga setuju ama ane yah.................... hiks....hiks................
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Dua2nya bener koq.

Saya masih amatir... :e-whistle:
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naldo wrote:Saya sih cuma mau bilang 1 hal.

Camera DSLR hasilnya akan bagus, semuanya tergantung dari penggunanya(photographer) n adaptasi terhadap cameranya sendiri(userfriendlyness).

Kalau camera DSLR dicoba n dipke di mode Auto, lah mending beli camera pocket aja donk?

DSLR kan kegunaannya untuk dipke manual n menghasilkan gambar yang tajam, plus untuk panning, foto model dll yang pastinya lebih bagus dari camera pocket. Toh para professional photographer, juga tidak menggunakan Mode Auto pas ambil gambar, semua pasti manual mode.

IMHO aja y. Jangan tersinggung.

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betul, tergantung si pemotret. betul, dgn dslr bisa lebih kreatif. betul, mending beli pk pocket cam kalo punya dslr hanya main di auto.
tp jgn lupa, pocket cam sensor nya kecil dibanding dslr. jd hasil pasti beda.

kadang2 kalo lagi kepepet, perlu auto jg.
Gw sendiri, dgn dslr utk situasi yg bs adjust ini itu lebih sreg pake 'M', giliran pake cam semi pro jadi bingung hehehe..
yah takes time lah utk membiasakan dgn manual mode.
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sjamsul wrote:
Ryan Steele wrote:Yup... Rata2 fotografer mentok2 pake mode Aperture Priority ato Speed Priority.
Setubuh............ Eh, maksud gw, setuju gw sama lo, Naldo...

Naldo, sang fotografer...

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bearti nt kaga setuju ama ane yah.................... hiks....hiks................
Lho... bukan gitu, om sjamsul...
Memang rata2 fotografer hampir gak pernah menyentuh mode auto. Bahkan bisa dibilang gak pernah.

Ane sendiri jarang banget pake mode A, soalnya ngabisin banyak memory. Bukan DSLR, si... Canon powershot, yang bentuknya mirip2 DSLR. Dengan memory 512 Mb, cuma dapet 64 take dengan mode A, sedangkan kalo pake mode M, bisa 200 take lebih...
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Ryan Steele wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
Ryan Steele wrote:Yup... Rata2 fotografer mentok2 pake mode Aperture Priority ato Speed Priority.
Setubuh............ Eh, maksud gw, setuju gw sama lo, Naldo...

Naldo, sang fotografer...

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bearti nt kaga setuju ama ane yah.................... hiks....hiks................
Lho... bukan gitu, om sjamsul...
Memang rata2 fotografer hampir gak pernah menyentuh mode auto. Bahkan bisa dibilang gak pernah.

Ane sendiri jarang banget pake mode A, soalnya ngabisin banyak memory. Bukan DSLR, si... Canon powershot, yang bentuknya mirip2 DSLR. Dengan memory 512 Mb, cuma dapet 64 take dengan mode A, sedangkan kalo pake mode M, bisa 200 take lebih...
iyah sih..........., klo gitu ane termasuk dah propesional dunk, khan ane dah kaga pake auto....... hihihi................ (lagi sombong model : ON).....

apakah kamera nt tipenye sx10is?. :e-think: :e-think: klo benar bearti sama dg ane punya........................, krn nyang DSLR belon kebeli................... :e-doh: :e-doh:
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asudarsono wrote:Wah, avatarnya pakai Canonnya ya bro. Bagus juga ya hasilnya. Justru kebalik bro, pakai DSLR itu gampang. Pakai kamdig saku justru yg susah. Kalau udah cukup pakai SX100, kenapa berpaling ke yang lain? Kenapa repot. Toh tidak semua foto harus "bening" untuk dapat dinyatakan bagus. Di bawah sih pakai Oly E500 lensa kit. DSLR sih. Cuma mau menunjukkan bahwa nggak perlu bening untuk jadi foto yg baik.
Contoh foto om asudarsono ini memakai tehnik yang namanya panning. CMIIW
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sjamsul wrote:
Ryan Steele wrote: Lho... bukan gitu, om sjamsul...
Memang rata2 fotografer hampir gak pernah menyentuh mode auto. Bahkan bisa dibilang gak pernah.

Ane sendiri jarang banget pake mode A, soalnya ngabisin banyak memory. Bukan DSLR, si... Canon powershot, yang bentuknya mirip2 DSLR. Dengan memory 512 Mb, cuma dapet 64 take dengan mode A, sedangkan kalo pake mode M, bisa 200 take lebih...
iyah sih..........., klo gitu ane termasuk dah propesional dunk, khan ane dah kaga pake auto....... hihihi................ (lagi sombong model : ON).....

apakah kamera nt tipenye sx10is?. :e-think: :e-think: klo benar bearti sama dg ane punya........................, krn nyang DSLR belon kebeli................... :e-doh: :e-doh:
Wah, kurang tau juga, om sjamsul. Minjem punya temen bwt dokumentasi acara, soalnya...
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naldo wrote:Saya sih cuma mau bilang 1 hal.

Camera DSLR hasilnya akan bagus, semuanya tergantung dari penggunanya(photographer) n adaptasi terhadap cameranya sendiri(userfriendlyness).

Kalau camera DSLR dicoba n dipke di mode Auto, lah mending beli camera pocket aja donk?

DSLR kan kegunaannya untuk dipke manual n menghasilkan gambar yang tajam, plus untuk panning, foto model dll yang pastinya lebih bagus dari camera pocket. Toh para professional photographer, juga tidak menggunakan Mode Auto pas ambil gambar, semua pasti manual mode.

IMHO aja y. Jangan tersinggung.

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tidak juga bro... mode auto tetap digunakan kadang2. kalo harus manual terus, itu sama saja kenapa harus digital cam? pake saja kamera manual yg masih pake film... wah itu ga ada yg ngalahin, meski digitalcam paling canggih pun... kekeke!
masalahnya, saya pake dslr kebanyakan auto... soalnya ga ngerti manual... wakakaka kiding ah.. :ngacir:
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Nah, pergeseran ke arah DSLR dikarenakan kemudahan dalam penyimpanan dan biaya yang dikeluarkan.
Jadi bukan berarti kalo full manual mendingan pake kamera manual (kamera film dengan motor) atau pake kamera analog (kamera film tanpa motor, semuanya mekanik).
Masalah dari pemakaian film 35 mm adalah sulitnya penyimpanan dan biaya yang diperlukan cukup besar.

BIAYA

Kita ambil contoh:
Analog/Manual SLR
* Untuk 1 roll film isi harganya kurang lebih Rp 30.000,00
* Biaya proses Rp 10.000/rol
* Biaya cetak/ lembar Rp 1.500,00. Total Rp 54.000,00
* Total biaya sampai siap: Rp 94.000,00/ rol

Ok, ada cara yg lebih murah:
* Untuk 1 roll film isi harganya kurang lebih Rp 30.000,00
* Biaya proses Rp 10.000/rol
* Biaya scan dari negatif menjadi file digital Rp 25.000,00/rol
* Total biaya sampai siap: Rp 65.000,00/ rol

DSLR
* Untuk beli Compact Flash (CF) Card Sandisk CF Extreme III 2GB Rp 280.000,00

CF Card lebih mahal daripada beli film+proses?
Betul, tetapi, lihat jumlah penggunaannya.

Film 35mm hanya bisa 1 kali pakai, selesai sudah.
CF Card? Mau sampai kiamat, selama gak rusak, lanjut!

PENYIMPANAN

Jujur, portfolio ane banyak yang ilang. Lupa nyimpen di mana aja tu negatif film. Maklum, ane pake Nikon FM2, pinjeman. Selesai hunting, proses, terus ilang deh tu film...
Kalu digital? Selesai hunting tinggal dimasukin ke hard disk komputer. Gak ilang deh... (kecuali kalo komputernya ato laptopnya rusak, terutama HDD; kena bencana; atau dicuri orang... :big_peace: )
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belum tentu lho orang beli dslr lalu pake auto melulu soalnya gelagapan kalau pake Manual.

Sebenarnya teknologi dslr ini sendiri sudah membuat suatu kepraktisan buat para fotografer, apa salah kalau teknologi praktis ni digunakan. Tentunya keuntungan dslr ini saya rasakan sekali dibanding pocket camera... yang udah focusnya lambat...kalau mau buat foto event olahraga udah pasti lewat deh....

Kembali lagi ke comment bro Naldo, dimana penggunaan Auto / Manual itu juga tergantung pada tempatnya... apa perlu pake Manual kalau cuman sekedar foto para temen di acara kumpul2 bareng....... kecuali yah kalau emang butuh speed, focus tertentu lain lagi ceritanya.

Tapi kalau beli DSLR lalu pake auto melulu ya sama aja rugi sih... kan enaknya dslr juga bisa bebas ngatur mode'nya... ga terlalu diatur harus focus kesini dan kesana. Semuanya bisa kita control.

Jadi menurut saya bukanlah hal yang janggal kalau melihat pengguna DSLR menggunakan mode A... secara itu juga tergantung situasi....
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esh wrote: Contoh foto om asudarsono ini memakai tehnik yang namanya panning. CMIIW
Ya bung Esh, panning.

IMHO, kalau manual (keaslian foto harus yg terekam lensa) vs auto (yg penting momennya dapat, ntar khan ada sotosop) itu khan cuma metode. Kadang enak pakai auto kadang enak pakai manual. hal ini bisa jadi perdebatan elitis (shooter vs editor) tapi ngapain repot2.

Contohnya foto 1, kalau pakai manual, berapa filter yg hrs dibawa. Berat bawanya.
Foto 2, kalau pakai auto, berapa frame yg terbuang krn missfocus. Ribet editingnya


Semua pada waktu dan tempatnya. Peace bro
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poeticmind wrote: masalahnya, saya pake dslr kebanyakan auto... soalnya ga ngerti manual... wakakaka kiding ah.. :ngacir:
(sok tau model : ON)

klo kaga ngarti manual, coba tanya ajah ke ane, nanti pasti ane jawab, tapi yahhh itu, belon tentu jawabannye betul..................... huehehehehe................... :frm_bang_head: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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