All New X-Trail - PART 01

Segala mobil tipe SUV (2WD/4WD). (Cherokee, Terios, Rush, dll).

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kolong crv 1gen dari belakang keliatan banget/exposed; 2gen agak dirapihin, 3gen udah mayan.
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sama2 dari sedan la liatnya. tapi ga tau jg deh, versi yg rapih atau berantakkan tiap org beda. Gw ga merhatiin smp segitu. Selama ini yg menurut gw rapih bgt ya Aclass, hampir ketutup semua kolongnya. lagipula selama pemiliknya bersih, msh gpp. klo yg jorok atau asal up to supir yah udah deh...
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yang 1st gen gua inget dulu temen kantor ada yang punya, keliatan pipa knalpotnya dari samping.
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rata2 mobil eropa memerhatikan detail2 sih...saat jepun2 masi telanjang engine hoodnya dgn wayar sliweran..jerman sdh adopsi pake plastik tutupin rapi...

oiya..x-trail emg limbung...palagi ganti ban tinggi dikit...
kalo tarikan harrier 2.4g dgn xtrail mk1 sih masi galakan xtrel..cm itu...harriernya ga pake manual mode yah...(pengalaman ndiri)...
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:frm_bang_head:
more trouble, new xtrail udah 8rban km, kok sering bunyi klotok2 ya di jok belakang sebelah kiri, terus kayaknya di dalem dasboard ada kaya mur kurang kenceng bunyi tleng2 gitu deh, belon gw sempet cek di nissan si, cuman makin lama makin annoying.. :evil:
ada yang udah make velg di atas 20" belon, review donk..takut beda rasa ama yang std gw 16" :big_slap:
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repot emang generasi produksi pertama, pasti ada keluhan sana sini, ntar setelah ada banyak keluhan baru nongol recall dan penyempurnaan. mdh2an ga ada yang prinsipil dah kelemahannya, CVTnya dah pernah dipake di nissan laen ga ye, dengan HP serupa?
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iwang wrote:yang 1st gen gua inget dulu temen kantor ada yang punya, keliatan pipa knalpotnya dari samping.
maksudnya a class? gw sempet pk yg 1st gen, kayaknya ga keliatan pipa knalpotnya seinget gw...lagipula g/clearance setinggi jazz, agak sulit terlihat dari samping rasanya...gw pernah liat kolong nya dulu, tertutup cover plastic besar...
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Gndut wrote:ada yang udah make velg di atas 20" belon, review donk..takut beda rasa ama yang std gw 16" :big_slap:
hehehe becanda neh nanyanya, jelas beda jauh la rasanya, pk 16 masih nyaman, pas pake 20" langsung alergi liat lobang hehehe...langsung deh nomor telpon reparasi/tarik/cat velg disimpen ke hape hehehe...
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Gndut wrote::frm_bang_head:
more trouble, new xtrail udah 8rban km, kok sering bunyi klotok2 ya di jok belakang sebelah kiri, terus kayaknya di dalem dasboard ada kaya mur kurang kenceng bunyi tleng2 gitu deh, belon gw sempet cek di nissan si, cuman makin lama makin annoying.. :evil:
ada yang udah make velg di atas 20" belon, review donk..takut beda rasa ama yang std gw 16" :big_slap:
kalo ada bunyi klotok2 di jok belakang mah mirip ama penyakit xtrail lama neh... :e-doh:
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roadtrain99 wrote:
iwang wrote:yang 1st gen gua inget dulu temen kantor ada yang punya, keliatan pipa knalpotnya dari samping.
maksudnya a class? gw sempet pk yg 1st gen, kayaknya ga keliatan pipa knalpotnya seinget gw...lagipula g/clearance setinggi jazz, agak sulit terlihat dari samping rasanya...gw pernah liat kolong nya dulu, tertutup cover plastic besar...
bukan a-class om, siarpi yang pertama. a-class mah dah cper ga kliatan apa2 lagi :D hehe
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ga pernah nemu bunyi klotok di extrail lama.
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iwang wrote:bukan a-class om, siarpi yang pertama. a-class mah dah cper ga kliatan apa2 lagi :D hehe
oo..
crv lama dari belakang kaki2 dan knalpot emang keliatan. Kalo dari samping, mungkin keliatan tabung tengah, gw dulu pasangin foot step samping, jd ga terlalu terlihat.
cuma asal sering dibersihin kolong nya masih lumayan. gw sering bgt nemu crv lama terlihat kaki2 nya kotor, tp body nya bersih...
ya sesuai hrg jg lah, secara crv lama ga terlalu mewah...
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roadtrain99 wrote:ga pernah nemu bunyi klotok di extrail lama.
gak semua kok...cuman beberapa... :glodak:
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sampe suka digodain tuh bos kantor yang pake siarpinya, dibilangin pak itu mobilnya bonggolnya copot..haha asal2an dah temen2
emang bukan mewah, kelas baru kan, soft roader, mall rover, grocery ranger, school 4runner :D :D
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kayanya udah dipake duluan di murano 2.5, cmiiw.
iwang wrote:repot emang generasi produksi pertama, pasti ada keluhan sana sini, ntar setelah ada banyak keluhan baru nongol recall dan penyempurnaan. mdh2an ga ada yang prinsipil dah kelemahannya, CVTnya dah pernah dipake di nissan laen ga ye, dengan HP serupa?
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x-trail baru ini setelah renault jadian sama nissan kan? jadi chassis engineering prancis + kaizen nissan harusnya jadi bagus banget.
xtrail disini FWD atau AWD yaks? mantep kalo dikluarin yang TdCi diselnya renault, irit + tenaga gede, pasti laku dah.
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xtrail = fwd, tapi kayanya produk2 nissan itu masih tanpa meninggalkan karakter unik nissannya deh daripada blend dgn renault..
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iwang wrote:x-trail baru ini setelah renault jadian sama nissan kan? jadi chassis engineering prancis + kaizen nissan harusnya jadi bagus banget.
xtrail disini FWD atau AWD yaks? mantep kalo dikluarin yang TdCi diselnya renault, irit + tenaga gede, pasti laku dah.
merge renault nissan bkn berarti semua mobil mrk menikmati share tech mrk cth X-trail ttp produk Nissan doang. Buktinya Xtrail diesel yg br launching di Jpg gak pake mesin tdci renault tp mesin diesel Nissan khusus utk Jepun
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kalo di jdm ya jelas aja pake mesin jepang, namanya jdm kan protektif dan eksklusif, model aja beda sendiri. cuma platform sharingnya sih langsung jalan kok, sekalian line up dirapihin, tadinya jg nissan udah terseok2 di small car. lipina kan nongol setelah merger.
xtrail tetep produksi nissan tapi teknologi dan engineering tetep aja banyak sharingnya, kalo ga gitu ga bakal jalan mergernya.
itu spion kecil di depan kiri kan karena ada kecelakaan di jepang, jadi kusus jdm harus pake spion kecil itu karena pernah ada anak kecil kelindes karena ga keliatan, ketutup bonnet tinggi.
itu CVT rupanya dah dipake di maxima, murano, dualis dan xtrail.
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kalo GL series seems hadir merupakan juga salahsatu akibat langkah sejak si Gosen, banjiri mobil2 regional buat market area tertentu daripada global aja yg makin tinggi.
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hhmm hmmm..pembahasan kelas berat nih..mantapppp:)...
xtrel ini rasanya byk pengembangan di china?...(pusat pengembangan regional asia salah satu kalo ga salah china buat nissan..)...

even murano yg 3.5 liter memakai cvt...jadi vq35de padu cvt aza gpp..rest assured ga ada isu ketahanan buat mesin 2.5ltr?cmiiw
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iwang wrote:sampe suka digodain tuh bos kantor yang pake siarpinya, dibilangin pak itu mobilnya bonggolnya copot..haha asal2an dah temen2
emang bukan mewah, kelas baru kan, soft roader, mall rover, grocery ranger, school 4runner :D :D
wah,.kesian bos nya hehehe...
duh ada2 aja istilahnya mall rover, grocery ranger aahhahaha...

btw xtrail yg diesel baru ada di tetangga aja, aussie. ga tau d masuk sini ga. Klo masuk, mungkin new crv diesel dr eropa ikutan masuk juga kali, tapi tau deh..yg di uk udah tutup bukan plantnya?
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iwang wrote:x-trail baru ini setelah renault jadian sama nissan kan? jadi chassis engineering prancis + kaizen nissan harusnya jadi bagus banget.
xtrail disini FWD atau AWD yaks? mantep kalo dikluarin yang TdCi diselnya renault, irit + tenaga gede, pasti laku dah.
Prancis emangnya chassis engineeringnya bagus yah? Hehehe... Dulu gue pernah nonton Top Gear, di surveynya untuk list of most satisfying car to own, 10 dari 13 mobil yang ada di posisi paling bawah, asalnya dari Prancis hehehe. Kalo chassis mobil bagus, berarti handlingnya bagus kan? Peugoet ama Renault (bukan yang versi rally lho), bukannya ga terlalu terkenal sebagai mobil yang punya handling bagus yah? Hehehe...

X-Trail baru emang share platform ama Renault Megane kalo ga salah. Ga spesial2 amat kayaknya. Coba share chassisnya ama mobil F1nya si Fernando Alonso waktu dia juara dunia 2005 kemaren :big_peace:
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iwang wrote:kalo di jdm ya jelas aja pake mesin jepang, namanya jdm kan protektif dan eksklusif, model aja beda sendiri. cuma platform sharingnya sih langsung jalan kok, sekalian line up dirapihin, tadinya jg nissan udah terseok2 di small car. lipina kan nongol setelah merger.
xtrail tetep produksi nissan tapi teknologi dan engineering tetep aja banyak sharingnya, kalo ga gitu ga bakal jalan mergernya.
itu spion kecil di depan kiri kan karena ada kecelakaan di jepang, jadi kusus jdm harus pake spion kecil itu karena pernah ada anak kecil kelindes karena ga keliatan, ketutup bonnet tinggi.
itu CVT rupanya dah dipake di maxima, murano, dualis dan xtrail.
Itu spion kecil di kiri bukannya buat ngebantu parkir parallel yah?
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prancis emang tradisionalnya kan pedesaan, negara petani, rural, jadi itu mobil kudu nyaman karena jalan buruk., cc kudu kecil (karena pajak tinggi)...makanya pug 604/talbot tagora gagal karena ccnya gede 2700cc.
pug semboyannya engineered to be enjoyed --> sring2 dinikmati sebelum rusak
kalo merc engineered like no other car---> engineered like truck n bus
bmw apa yah?
audi vorschprung dur technik --> canggih ati2 rusak mahal
kalo kijang : tiada duanya (dari gigi satu langsung gigi tiga, ga ada duanya)

makanya chassis engineeringnya fokusnya ke comfort, long suspension travel.
laen sama jerman, industri fokusnya,jalan muluss, ada autobahn, makanya biasnya ke handling di kec tinggi. selain itu parkirnya sempit2, basement sempit2, makanya radius putar kecil2.
untuk eropa utara, polpo, musuhnya elk (rusa segede kebo), makanya safety nomer satu untuk urusan tumburan, bemper2nya gede2 karena tu kebo suka nongol sekonyong2 dari balik semak, visibility buruk karena salju. mobil jg relatip sederhana karena alamnya brutal..dingin.

nissan ga tau dah, mestinya bisa dapet chassis engineeringnya renault, tetep aja lebih unggul nyamannya dari jepang. jepang lebih fokus ke fungsi dan ekonomi.