All New X-Trail - PART 01

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kayanya v6 toyota lama emang dodol, yang di camry grande = di harrier 3.0 pertama, 1MZ yeh? cuma 195 atau dibwhnya malah.
kalo 2.4 4 cyl baru kan mesin ZZ ya? udah pipi ti ai dsb..tenaganya lebih gede. beda teknologinya mayan jauh.
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gemelli wrote:Bro rasanya jazz lama ga ada fitur auto lock waktu mobil jalan d.... kebanyakan itu bawa-an alarm..
nah alarmnya itu yg fiturnya macam2 ya pasang sendiri hehe
Ohhh itu bawaan alarm yah? Hehehe soalnya alarmnya dipasang ama dealer sih. Nguncinya bukan pas mobil jalan, tapi pas nyalain mesin dan posisi pintu semua tertutup. Kalo X-Trail baru ini gue rada kecewa karena ternyata fungsi auto lock-nya disunat ama NMI. Kalo menurut buku manualnya, harusnya puter kunci ke posisi "ON" trus tunggu 20 detik, trus teken dan tahan tombol "LOCK" selama 5 detik. Gue udah cobain, ternyata ga ada reaksi tuh... Para member di sini ada ga yang X-Trailnya punya fungsi auto lock? Soalnya gue termasuk yang sering lupa ngunci pintu nih hehehe.

Aduh ga ada yang tau yah gimana cara ngatur ketinggian sorot lampu xenon? Biasa kan lampu xenon ada knob atau bautnya, untuk ngatur posisi sorot lampunya. Di X-Trail ini ga ada. Terpaksa nunggu pas servis 1000 km deh... :big_slap:
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btw..uda ada keluhan blm?hehehe..
oiya..para pemakai new X...setirnya masi seliar yg dulu?
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iwang wrote:kayanya v6 toyota lama emang dodol, yang di camry grande = di harrier 3.0 pertama, 1MZ yeh? cuma 195 atau dibwhnya malah.
kalo 2.4 4 cyl baru kan mesin ZZ ya? udah pipi ti ai dsb..tenaganya lebih gede. beda teknologinya mayan jauh.
klo ga salah ada vvti & ada yg non vvti.
bener wang 1mz-fe v6 3.0ltr, dipake di camry 3.0, harrier & alphard 1st gen 3.0ltr. yg gw pk vvti, malah fourcam bukan dohc lagi. power nya sekitar 210hp/304nm. Klo harrier & alphard nya bertenaga kok, tp agak beda dgn camry nya..apa camry nya kurang tune kali ya...
soalnya yg new camry 2.4 emang baru sih..jadi faktor usia jg mungkin

wah..maap..oot
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sylar wrote:
gemelli wrote:Bro rasanya jazz lama ga ada fitur auto lock waktu mobil jalan d.... kebanyakan itu bawa-an alarm..
nah alarmnya itu yg fiturnya macam2 ya pasang sendiri hehe
Ohhh itu bawaan alarm yah? Hehehe soalnya alarmnya dipasang ama dealer sih. Nguncinya bukan pas mobil jalan, tapi pas nyalain mesin dan posisi pintu semua tertutup. Kalo X-Trail baru ini gue rada kecewa karena ternyata fungsi auto lock-nya disunat ama NMI....
klo jazz lama, auto lock nya pas semua door tertutup dan starter mesin, bener..itu dari alarm sepertinya.
xtrail lama seinget gw ga ada auto lock. New xtrail udah ada ya? tp klo ga ada jg, sehrsnya ga sulit kok bro, tinggal press button aja.
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under 195hp? hmm estimasi bro iwang just bisa related kesini ?:
mesin 1MZ-FE isunya over spec : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

"SAE certified horsepower

In 2005, the SAE introduced a new test protocol for engine horsepower and torque. The new protocol eliminates some of the flexibility in power measurement, and requires an independent observer present when engines are measured. The test is voluntary, but engines completing it can be advertised as "SAE-certified".

Many manufacturers began switching to the new rating immediately, with multi-directional results; the rated output of Cadillac's supercharged Northstar V8 jumped from 440 horsepower (330 kW) to 469 horsepower (350 kW) under the new tests, while the rating for Toyota's Camry 3.0 L 1MZ-FE V6 fell from 210 horsepower (160 kW) to 190 horsepower (140 kW). The first engine certified under the new program was the 7.0 L LS7 used in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Certified power rose slightly from 500 horsepower (370 kW) to 505 horsepower (377 kW)."
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iwang wrote:kayanya v6 toyota lama emang dodol, yang di camry grande = di harrier 3.0 pertama, 1MZ yeh? cuma 195 atau dibwhnya malah.
kalo 2.4 4 cyl baru kan mesin ZZ ya? udah pipi ti ai dsb..tenaganya lebih gede. beda teknologinya mayan jauh.
klo ga salah ada vvti & ada yg non vvti.
bener wang 1mz-fe v6 3.0ltr, dipake di camry 3.0, harrier & alphard 1st gen 3.0ltr. yg gw pk vvti, malah fourcam bukan dohc lagi. power nya sekitar 210hp/304nm. Klo harrier & alphard nya bertenaga kok, tp agak beda dgn camry nya..apa camry nya kurang tune kali ya...
soalnya yg new camry 2.4 emang baru sih..jadi faktor usia jg mungkin

wah..maap..oot
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info dari internet emang byk, jd nya ngebingungin. tp secara dipantesin ke real nya, yg 3.0ltr emang bertenaga, kerasa lah bedanya dibandingin ke mobil yg 2.4ltr, tarikan tengah sampe atas ga abis, torque gede, kerasa bgt klo lagi ngelalap tanjakan.

contoh aja: pas pk xtrail 2.5 lama, di cipularang ada camry 2.4 sama2 narik, spertinya dia ga mau kalah dan kebetulan lagi ditanjakkan. nah pas di tanjakkan ini gw lsg mikir "wah, klo pk 3.0 lain ceritanya nih" krn wkt itu udah abis2an bgt mesinnya. tp lumayan hebat xtrail, bisa nyamain camry 2.4. akhirnya tuh org putus, krn depannya ga jauh ada mobil lain, dia ngerem, dan gw ngacir ditanjakkan hehehe..ternyata ga modal hp doang, akal hrs tetep maen hehehe...
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roadtrain99 wrote:info dari internet emang byk, jd nya ngebingungin. tp secara dipantesin ke real nya, yg 3.0ltr emang bertenaga, kerasa lah bedanya dibandingin ke mobil yg 2.4ltr, tarikan tengah sampe atas ga abis, torque gede, kerasa bgt klo lagi ngelalap tanjakan.

contoh aja: pas pk xtrail 2.5 lama, di cipularang ada camry 2.4 sama2 narik, spertinya dia ga mau kalah dan kebetulan lagi ditanjakkan. nah pas di tanjakkan ini gw lsg mikir "wah, klo pk 3.0 lain ceritanya nih" krn wkt itu udah abis2an bgt mesinnya. tp lumayan hebat xtrail, bisa nyamain camry 2.4. akhirnya tuh org putus, krn depannya ga jauh ada mobil lain, dia ngerem, dan gw ngacir ditanjakkan hehehe..ternyata ga modal hp doang, akal hrs tetep maen hehehe...
haha.. that's why my ist pernah balap crv 2.4...

dengan nyari rute balapan yang bener biar ga dihalang mobil depan..


wkwkwk.... :mrgreen:
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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^
heh? ist? berarti yg new crv nya blo'on...hehehe...

cm new crv yg 2.4 kenceng lho, gw agak ragu klo xtrail lama bs ngejer...
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akselerasi 0-100 km/h CRV 2.4 hampir setara kok dengan x-trail 2.5 lama... :big_smoking:

klo ga salah dulu baca AB :
All New CRV 2.4 = 10,1 detik
X-Trail 2.5 (lama) = 10 detik

x-trail lama harusnya bisa lebih cepat lagi jika pake transmisi maticnya All New CRV... :mrgreen:
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kayanya all new cierpi ini emg kenceng yah..tapi kalo di jalanan sih 11-12 ama xtrel aja lhar saya rasa....ga tau yah..spt yg roadtrain paparkan...liat kondisi jalan jg..:)
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kayanya ga brani kenceng mobil xtril tinggi gitu, limbung dikit tebalik dah.
camry 2.4 torsinya mayan gede sktr 220nm tuh..emang tergantung state of tune sih..untuk sama2 2.4 mesin kemri vs ektril x siarpi gimana bandingannya?
ga tau spesifik output/liternya gimana, bisa coba dibandingin, mngkin 70-80hp/literan dah.
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terus terang sih sebelas duabelas lhar bro mnrt sy ketiga mobil itu..cuman beda di setting atpm sini saja..ada koq mesin setipe cierpi di accord coupe yah kalo ga salah sampe 240hp..displacement nya sama...
ane jg setuju..kalo x-trail kenceng2 mah ngeri...tinggi..kotak2..dipadu steer ringan...combination from hell to roll-over in case kalo kepergok...huehuehuee :big_slap:
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Pelan2 aja dah...serem kencang2...ntar jd jombi beneran lho
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hehehee...makanya ane skg nyetir macam kura2... :big_peace:
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GTR wrote:under 195hp? hmm estimasi bro iwang just bisa related kesini ?:
mesin 1MZ-FE isunya over spec : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

"SAE certified horsepower

In 2005, the SAE introduced a new test protocol for engine horsepower and torque. The new protocol eliminates some of the flexibility in power measurement, and requires an independent observer present when engines are measured. The test is voluntary, but engines completing it can be advertised as "SAE-certified".

Many manufacturers began switching to the new rating immediately, with multi-directional results; the rated output of Cadillac's supercharged Northstar V8 jumped from 440 horsepower (330 kW) to 469 horsepower (350 kW) under the new tests, while the rating for Toyota's Camry 3.0 L 1MZ-FE V6 fell from 210 horsepower (160 kW) to 190 horsepower (140 kW). The first engine certified under the new program was the 7.0 L LS7 used in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Certified power rose slightly from 500 horsepower (370 kW) to 505 horsepower (377 kW)."
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jd sepertinya xtrail gen1 dulu juga overestimate hpnya alias bukan pake cara itung/protocol yg disetujui skrg krn kebanyakan mobil jepang turun hpnya abis SAE baru cmiiw

BTW ada yg tau ngga jok baris kedua all new xtrail seberapa sempit sebenernya kalo dibandingin crv gen3? trus kalo dibandingin ama crv gen2?
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Hansen wrote:akselerasi 0-100 km/h CRV 2.4 hampir setara kok dengan x-trail 2.5 lama... :big_smoking:

klo ga salah dulu baca AB :
All New CRV 2.4 = 10,1 detik
X-Trail 2.5 (lama) = 10 detik

x-trail lama harusnya bisa lebih cepat lagi jika pake transmisi maticnya All New CRV... :mrgreen:
hehe, jgn terlalu percaya ama AB bro. apalagi bedanya cuma 0,1dtk.
xtrail gw dulu kayak berasa kempos, tp mungkin ga, malah lebih nyentak crv gw yg lama cm 2.0 dohc.
tp klo new crv, di real nya kenceng bro, rpm bawah sampe tengah berisi terus, itu klo dibanding ke xtrail lama. Klo yg baru, gw blm coba.
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iwang wrote:kayanya ga brani kenceng mobil xtril tinggi gitu, limbung dikit tebalik dah.
camry 2.4 torsinya mayan gede sktr 220nm tuh..emang tergantung state of tune sih..untuk sama2 2.4 mesin kemri vs ektril x siarpi gimana bandingannya?
ga tau spesifik output/liternya gimana, bisa coba dibandingin, mngkin 70-80hp/literan dah.
ga terlalu limbung wang *kalo gw lho*, gw pernah sampingin ama jazz lain di jalan, spion nya sama tinggi. klo biasa bw mobil tinggi, masuk xtrail lama, berasa kayak deket ke jalan.
klo ngadu ama new camry, gw pegang new camry. tp klo ama camry lama, gw kayaknya pegang new crv deh.
btw, camry yg betot2an ama gw itu camry lama, lagi tanjakkan lurus ujan lagi, berkat rain x, no problemo hehehe..malah iklan..
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situ kan sembalap..ogut amatiran neh..:D :D ngeri kan roll centernya tinggi kalo es u pe semacam itu. di jalan sih biasanya gua liat orang bawa si ar pi baru pada kenceng2 ..mana lampunya silau2 lagi...(waktu gua bawa corolla)..pas gua bawa E320..tiba2 mereka jadi pelan..haha
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^
sama, amatiran jg, klo pro udah nyaingin ananda mikocok dong hehehe...
klo suv yg tinggi body roll memang terasa, tp klo xtrail/crv/harrier ga terlalu utk ukuran crossover. Klo sedan ya lain lagi. Cuma ya kembali lg, tiap org bda handling nya...
so pasti la keliatan lambat, niu si ar pi cm 2.4, situ e3.2 heheh..ngacir lah...
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ananda kacau beliau, ayahandanya jg ga jelas prestasinya..pas paris dakar pecah ban atau platina gompal, ga inget lagi gua.
kalo dibanding harrier 2.4 kayanya sih itu siarpi sama ektril larinya kencengan harrier yah? rata2 liat herir kenceng2, mantep kliatannya..gua sih demen apalagi liat interiornya, cuma pantatnya jelek, nungging, lampu ketinggian (jadi musti pake reflektor kecil ala E60 bmw) trus itu rear axle brantakan keliatan semua sama knalpot2nya. kalo dirapihin pake apaan kek, macam mudguard kek, bisa lebih rapih kaya ektril atau siarpi.

beli herir satu dapet siarpi satu bonus ektril satu :D :D dan hadiah hiburan satu malam di hotel hilton bersama.....cathy booooonnnnnn!!!!! :D :D haha
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^
busyet, cathy bon..inget kuis lifebuoy..masih cuma 1 tv swasta, rcti...hehe

ah ananda, yah begitulah, bokapnya jg biasa aja ah dulu. Gara2 ga byk org indo aja jaman itu yg ikut rally dakkar, makanya jadi tersohor. ananda, gembar gembor sekolah balap, target f1..beratlah. Wkt itu gw liat launching A1 di bunderan HI, dia melintir ga karu2an. mendingan rifat sungkar jauh deh, sayang tuh si doni tata ga terexpose bgt.

wah, harrier yg 2nd gen lampu belakangnya gw kurang suka, bagusan yg lama, tp interior nya okeh. Ga tau wang, kayaknya kencengan xtrail/crv dibanding harrrier 2.4...tapi tau deh, gimana yg punya any comment?
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:D kemana ya ibu cathy bon..dan pensiun kali, nimang2 cucu :D

ya sayang toyota rear end treatmentnya tanggung2, camry 2004 aja keliatan muffler blakang ga keruan gitu, asal2an. herir jg gitu, padahal depan kan dah bagus, ga terlalu imut dan ga terlalu kaku. mobil laen bisa keliatan simetris dan ga keliatan usus2 suspensi dan pipa2 knalpot blakang. interior emang cakep sih, optitron, kayu2an, layout tengah jg bagus.

soal kenceng2an gua ga paham sih soalnya blon pernah nyobain, cuma ngamatin aja di jalanan, kalo bawa corona 72 liatnya dari windshield, kalo pake corolla dari kaca samping, kalo pake sportline liatnya dari spion :D :D
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^
hehehe, mobil yg g/clearance nya tinggi rata2 jeroan suspensi, kaki2 keliatanlah...tp masa camry keliatan? kaga kayaknya deh...
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G300 ga kliatan tuh, setidaknya tertib :D :D ga acak2an. siarpi baru jg dirapihin, sampe ada mudguard blakangnya
camry 2003/2005 liat aja mufflernya gede banget,jadi ga simetris. kalo naek herir ga kliatan, kan tinggi, kalo gua naek corolla keliatan banget..hehe