ALL NEW X-TRAIL vs ALL NEW CRV

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oh kalau gitu sih irit, wekekke
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iye, 2.4l 1:11...irit itu....rute kombinasi pula....:frm_salut: :frm_salut:

jd pingin punya SUV yg 2.4an, trus FC kombinasi nya 1:11an.... :frm_salut:
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kalo emang crv 2.4 FCnya 1:11 ga ada orang beli senia sama apanja sama hondajes sama terios sama rush sama lipina.
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kapan yah? ciirpi bisa beneran 1:11?? :glodak:
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^^

bisa...

asal Jalan konstan di tol 90-120km/h...

gak pake ngerem... :ngacir:
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smgandi wrote:
sylar wrote:Wah bos Iwang kayaknya nakal nih... Di foto atas, plat B 1553-nya dipake di E320 yang biru. Di foto bawahnya, itu plat dipake di yang ijo. :big_peace:

Gue sendiri pemilik all-new X-Trail. Alasannya gue pilih X-Trail dibanding CR-V, selain harganya yang lebih murah, fitur2 yang kita dapetin juga lebih bagus daripada CR-V, dan transmisi CVT-nya jauh lebih canggih daripada matic konvensionalnya CR-V. Bayangin aja, untuk X-Trail yang varian XT, dengan harga yang lebih murah hampir 10 juta daripada CR-V 2.4, kita dapet xenon headlights, steering wheel control, CVT transmission, keyless entry, dll. Semua majalah yang ngeliput X-Trail Vs. CR-V juga memihak ke X-Trail. Bahkan katanya performa X-Trail juga lebih bagus, walaupun tenaganya menurun 10 hp dibanding X-Trail generasi pertama. Kalo punya jiwa anak muda, transmisi X-Trail juga bisa dibikin jadi manumatic, 6-speed. Kalo gue sih belon pernah pake. Enakan pake matic biasa aja hehe.

Tapi jujur, kalo masalah model, CR-V emang lebih cakep. Lebih cantik gitu. Interiornya juga lebih mewah. Dan yang paling menang, CR-V udah pake sistem audio aftermarket. All-new X-Trail pake headunitnya Grand Livina.
Barangkali boleh saya revisi dikit.
Sebetolnya tenaga mesin X-Trail dr yg lama ke yg baru naek 5 hp.
X-Trail lama tenaganya 165 hp, tapi spek dr NMI ditulis 180 hp.
Itu saya ketahui dr spek X-Trail Eropa.
Sedangkan All New X-Trail baek spek Eropa ato NMI sama2 ditulis 170 hp.
Itu utk yg varian 2.5L.
Sedangkan utk varian yg 2.0L, gen pertama baek di Eropa maupun di Indo tdk ada versi A/T.
Utk All New X-Trail versi 2.0L di Eropa cuman ada manual, karena ini versi ekonomis. Tapi tdk tau mengapa di Indo akan dikeluarkan versi A/Tnya.
Sebetulnya NMI sih gak salah...

yang salah, ya konsumennya...

X-Trail 1st gen..
tertulis 180PS...
bukan 180HP...

HP & PS itu beda loh :off_good:


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180ps ~176hp.
semua mobil jepang di most market asia pakai satuan "ps".
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lonelyguy wrote:
Sebetulnya NMI sih gak salah...

yang salah, ya konsumennya...

X-Trail 1st gen..
tertulis 180PS...
bukan 180HP...

HP & PS itu beda loh :off_good:


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Oom,

PS & HP itu sama.
HP = horse power (bhs. Inggris), PS=Pferdestärke (bhs. Jerman)

Kalo yg beda itu HP sama KW (kilowatt)
1 HP = 0.7456 KW

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paardekracht sama horsepower beda dikit, satunya kuda blanda satunya kuda inggris..kaya royal dutch sama shell..setali tiga uang :D :D
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sama2 "daya kuda" / horsepower tapi hp beda dari ps.
hp or pk dipakai di UK dan US.
satuan output yg standar adalah KW kilowatt.
yaris = 109ps = 106hp
jazz = 120ps = 117hp

1ps = ~0.98hp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
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GTR wrote:hp beda dari ps. hp or pk dipakai di UK dan US. satuan yg standar adalah KW kilowatt.
yaris = 109ps = 106hp
jazz = 120ps = 117hp

1ps = ~0.98hp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

nah itu baru Top.. :frm_salut: :frm_salut: ...sayang , gak ada ijo2 disini..
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dari "Abu2" jadi "Ijo2" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ...... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Mantap tuh penjelasan om GTR tentang PS dan HP. Sekarang saya sudah ngerti :thanks:
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Mantap juga CRV 2.4nya... :e-clap: :mrgreen: :ngacir:
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GTR wrote:hp beda dari ps. hp or pk dipakai di UK dan US. satuan yg standar adalah KW kilowatt.
yaris = 109ps = 106hp
jazz = 120ps = 117hp

1ps = ~0.98hp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

nah, mantaff nih, jd tidak ada kerancuan lg.. :frm_tumbright:
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ps & hp beda tipis...kg perlu terlalu pusing ama begituan. blm tentu sama klo ukuran yg on wheels...
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GTR wrote:sama2 "daya kuda" / horsepower tapi hp beda dari ps.
hp or pk dipakai di UK dan US.
satuan output yg standar adalah KW kilowatt.
yaris = 109ps = 106hp
jazz = 120ps = 117hp

1ps = ~0.98hp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
mantap... :thanks:
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itu semua hp on flywheel kan. di roda kurangnya jadi brapa yah?
lebih penting kurva torsi sih. percuma 180 hp peaknya di 7000rpm.
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IMHO, di roda berkurang sekitar 15% utk manual, dan bervariasi utk matic.
kalo di mobil sport, rpm peak output emang rata2 lebih tinggi dari rpm mobil "biasa".
anyway, peaknya xtrail lama sepertinya cuma di 6000rpm koq, peak QR25DE yg Vspec 200hp cuma di 6600rpm.
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peak hp nya yaks di 6000an.
musti liat kurva torsinya baru tau drivabilitynya kaya gimana. gua kurang2 paham sama 4-inline cc gede (2.4, 2.7) tapi sekarang2 ini dengan kemajuan teknologi induction (variable timing,variable intake length dsb) torsinya dah sama dengan 3.0 jaman dulu. paling rada2 peaky sedikit tapi ga separah jaman dulu.
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iwang wrote:paardekracht sama horsepower beda dikit, satunya kuda blanda satunya kuda inggris..kaya royal dutch sama shell..setali tiga uang :D :D
Beda lah PS ama HP. Kalo PS kan dipake di Jepang, berarti kudanya Asia. Kalo HP beneran dipake di Amerika ama Inggris, berarti kudanya bule. Manusia aja yang bule rata2 tenaganya lebih gede daripada orang asia. Yah kesimpulannya, kuda bule lebih kuat daripada kuda asia. Jadi HP > PS.
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avalone wrote:sekedar share aja, beberapa waktu lalu gw jalan ke bandung dari jakarta sama temen2 gw, pake CRV 2.4 punya temen gw, waktu di bandung gw kena macet karena kebetulan pas weekend, tapi pas jalan pulang ke jakarta di m.i.d nunjukin angka 11km/l, so dengan kombinasi tol & dalam kota CRV 2.4 termasuk irit, dari jakarta full tank, baru ngisi pas balik di rest area karawang barat, emang honda terbukti irit walaupun mesin 2.4L tapi tetep efisien. jadi pengen ikutan beli, he2... :angel:
Setau gue MID tuh nunjukinnya bukan km/liter, tapi liter/100 km. Jadi kalo 11 liter/100 km itu jadinya 100:11 = 9. Jadinya 1:9 gitu lah kalo dikira2. Yah boros juga lah kalo segitu mah hehehe. Tapi yah, sekali lagi, MID ga bisa dijadiin patokan absolut.

Kalo ada penggemar Top Gear di sini, mungkin ada yang udah nonton Top Gear yang ngebandingin fuel consumptionnya BMW M3 baru sama Toyota Prius. Hasilnya, setelah sekitar 9 lap, BMW M3 lebih hemat. Alasannya, karena Toyota Prius harus bejek gas, dan M3 yang jauh lebih kenceng, cuma perlu keep up ama Prius. Pas udah selesai, si Jeremy Clarkson ngomong gini, "it's not the car you drive; it's how you drive it." Kalo ga percaya, dulu gue di Amrik pernah bawa BMW 330, dan karena di sana jalanannya jarang macet, kalo gue lagi nyetir nyantai, itu mobil bisa lebih hemat daripada BMW 318i gue di Jakarta.
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yang penting sama2 kuda deh.. :big_slap:
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ada yang udah coba konsumsi bbm nya xtrail?? kalo menurut gw mid dipasang bukan tanpa alasan, karena dari para produsen ingin memberikan informasi yang riil kepada para konsumennya, yang di mid bukan satuan liter/100 km, kalo gitu berarti waktu gw pake 1 lt : 1.1 km donk, mana cukup tuh tangki bensin kalo buat gw pake muter2 bandung & balik lagi ke jakarta tanpa isi bensin...
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econometer dah ada dari jaman dulu, merc tiger, bmw lama, tapi cuma bikin bingung aja, akhirnya di merc dah ga ada lagi. bmw masih pake kayanya sampe e39..ga tau yang bangle bmw.
cukup pake odometer aja gampang.
ini cuma gimmick2 aja, bikin orang seneng kesannya bisa ngirit, sama kaya speedometer digital, akhirnya ga jelas kan.