ALL NEW X-TRAIL vs ALL NEW CRV

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hmm gitu yeh...rasanya pasti aneh buat gue..hehe..maklum ga pernah nyobain mubil2 baru
fungsi engine brakenya gimana yah...? kudu shift down via manual/tiptronicnya?
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^
utk engine brake, matic yg udah canggih blm bisa memperkirakan style si driver nya. Kecuali kalo jalan turunan, matic masih bisa detect kok lepas gas tapi speed nambah, pasti dia tahan, apalagi klo kita ngerem, pasti dia down shift.

berarti kudu tetep lewat tiptronic bagi yg ada, bagi yg masih conventional matic kudu mainin ke d3-2-L.
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all new crv sih enak, sempet pk yg 2.4, kenceng. interior gw suka. sayang agak boros utk 2.4ltr.

itu yg gw heran, kemarin sempet ada majalah yg bilang bhw mobil teririt yaitu honda. majalah lokal, lupa apa namanya. setau gw new crv bisa 1:7/8, klo sering macet bisa lebih parah lagi.

all new xtrail sempet liat di showroom nya, dalemnya beda jauh dengan yg 1st gen. tapi blm test jalannya.
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yah kalo autobild mah ayan dah...mobil 2400cc matic berat 1,7ton bbm bisa 1:8/9 dalam kota :D :D
gak realistis, dah gitu terjemahannya ancur2an, yang tulisan asli indo jg bahasanya puyeng. mending gua baca poskota :D :D
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hahaha..bener..tapi ga semuanya lah..kadang2 ada kok review yg mendekati real. Klo pas baca kadang2 gw mikir, ini majalah dibayar berapa sih ama produsen nya...

contohnya blm lama ada review d4d dibilang tangguh ditanjakkan..yang bener?!?!
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emang bener tangguh di tanjakan...maksudnya dia tangguh aja disitu, ga kemana mana :D :D
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hahahahaha...sadisss...
sstt..jgn kenceng2..ntar ada yg tersungging....
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hehe. kl mobilnya emang mantep, mesin ok gua jg mau aja, ntar kalo dah kawin, buat bawa anak atau apaan kek. tp daripada tenaga doyok2 gitu mending beli previa second aja skalian, 200jutaan dah mantep.
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GTR wrote:justru kalo kickdown di cvt, ada feeling wetcluctch yg sudah "lock", rpmnya aja yg langsung berubah sebanding dgn dalamnya injakan pedal, makin dalam makin tinggi "stay" rpm nya, makin dikit tekan nya makin rendah stay rpm nya.
yah feeling akselerasinya kira2 seperti pake transmisi manual (tanpa ganti gigi) tapi pedal koplingnya bisa naek turun sendiri dikontrol oleh komputer... :mrgreen:
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tambah bingung gua...heheh...ntar kalo dah pada beli ikutan tes draip yak :D kalo kopdar :D
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new crv klo ga salah udah cvt belum? soalnya matic new crv tergolong genit, colek gas dikit, langsung down shift. sedangkan mobil2 seblm nya hrs bejek agak dlm.
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iwang wrote:hehe. kl mobilnya emang mantep, mesin ok gua jg mau aja, ntar kalo dah kawin, buat bawa anak atau apaan kek. tp daripada tenaga doyok2 gitu mending beli previa second aja skalian, 200jutaan dah mantep.
hehe tenaga doyok..hieiheihe..jd inget kijang doyok...
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haha gua punya satu kijang doyok 81 tuh..minibus...:D :D
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ada sodokur gw, saking ga mau jual doyoknya..di pasangin body nya kijang grand extra...
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iwang wrote:yah kalo autobild mah ayan dah...mobil 2400cc matic berat 1,7ton bbm bisa 1:8/9 dalam kota :D :D
gak realistis, dah gitu terjemahannya ancur2an, yang tulisan asli indo jg bahasanya puyeng. mending gua baca poskota :D :D
Yah setuju banget deh...
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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sylar wrote:Wah bos Iwang kayaknya nakal nih... Di foto atas, plat B 1553-nya dipake di E320 yang biru. Di foto bawahnya, itu plat dipake di yang ijo. :big_peace:

Gue sendiri pemilik all-new X-Trail. Alasannya gue pilih X-Trail dibanding CR-V, selain harganya yang lebih murah, fitur2 yang kita dapetin juga lebih bagus daripada CR-V, dan transmisi CVT-nya jauh lebih canggih daripada matic konvensionalnya CR-V. Bayangin aja, untuk X-Trail yang varian XT, dengan harga yang lebih murah hampir 10 juta daripada CR-V 2.4, kita dapet xenon headlights, steering wheel control, CVT transmission, keyless entry, dll. Semua majalah yang ngeliput X-Trail Vs. CR-V juga memihak ke X-Trail. Bahkan katanya performa X-Trail juga lebih bagus, walaupun tenaganya menurun 10 hp dibanding X-Trail generasi pertama. Kalo punya jiwa anak muda, transmisi X-Trail juga bisa dibikin jadi manumatic, 6-speed. Kalo gue sih belon pernah pake. Enakan pake matic biasa aja hehe.

Tapi jujur, kalo masalah model, CR-V emang lebih cakep. Lebih cantik gitu. Interiornya juga lebih mewah. Dan yang paling menang, CR-V udah pake sistem audio aftermarket. All-new X-Trail pake headunitnya Grand Livina.
Barangkali boleh saya revisi dikit.
Sebetolnya tenaga mesin X-Trail dr yg lama ke yg baru naek 5 hp.
X-Trail lama tenaganya 165 hp, tapi spek dr NMI ditulis 180 hp.
Itu saya ketahui dr spek X-Trail Eropa.
Sedangkan All New X-Trail baek spek Eropa ato NMI sama2 ditulis 170 hp.
Itu utk yg varian 2.5L.
Sedangkan utk varian yg 2.0L, gen pertama baek di Eropa maupun di Indo tdk ada versi A/T.
Utk All New X-Trail versi 2.0L di Eropa cuman ada manual, karena ini versi ekonomis. Tapi tdk tau mengapa di Indo akan dikeluarkan versi A/Tnya.
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sekedar share aja, beberapa waktu lalu gw jalan ke bandung dari jakarta sama temen2 gw, pake CRV 2.4 punya temen gw, waktu di bandung gw kena macet karena kebetulan pas weekend, tapi pas jalan pulang ke jakarta di m.i.d nunjukin angka 11km/l, so dengan kombinasi tol & dalam kota CRV 2.4 termasuk irit, dari jakarta full tank, baru ngisi pas balik di rest area karawang barat, emang honda terbukti irit walaupun mesin 2.4L tapi tetep efisien. jadi pengen ikutan beli, he2... :angel:
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buset kalo bolak balik ga cukup full tank mah boros lah (60liter?). saya ke bandung pake E320 aja bisa 1:10, jalan di kanan terus dan itu ga ada yang nyalip di jalan kosong (kecuali yang lewat kiri/bahu jalan ga saya ladenin). ke bandung pp jakarta ga lebih dari 30 liter, kalo ampe nginep+muter2 di bandung paling 40 literan.
mungkin jg crvnya bawa banyak sewa, trus jalannya pelan2..bisa jg irit. kalo bersemangat nyetirnya dijamin 1:7 udah hebat.
MID mah ga bisa jadi patokan, kecuali pake odometer. itu baru presisi.
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iya boros tuh...
mending mercy, wekekeke.
A140 bisa 1:17 ke bandung. City gw bisa 1:23.
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sepertinya maksud bro avalone bukan habis full-tank bro iwang..kecuali rute muter2 nya banyak sekali.
cuma aja cara ngukurnya konsumsi bensinnya dari full-tank dan isi lagi ke full-tank, gitu, bisa di level berapa aja belum tentu habis kan.
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kalo muter2nya banyak mungkin crvnya sempet dibawa ke indianapolis 500 :D :D hehe
sederhana aja sih power/weight ratio, liat koefesien dragnya brapa, ya ga jauh2 dari situ analago FCnya dengan mobil sejenis. mau mesin efesien kaya apa, gearbox CVT atau SMG, tetep back to basic, hukum alam.
itu di US udah coba macem2 pake cylinder deactivation dll, ya segitu2 aja. makanya solusinya mobil listrik walau mengorbankan drivability.

G300 W463, berat 2,5 ton, mesin 190hp 3000cc, koefesien of drag = hotel indonesia (kotak2 :D), ya jelas bensin 1:4 sd 1:6, paling top 1:8 kl lagi sabar sambil dengerin kroncong bandar jakarta.
CRV/xtrail ga jauh dari situlah..koefesien of drag mendingan, mungkin kaya gedung DPR gepeng2 lancip gitu, rata2 FC paling 1:7 atau 1:8 dengan moderate driving.
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selain Cd & PWR tadi; kalo dari "teori", harusnya xtrail maybe masih bisa lebih irit dari crv karena CVT..
Efisiensi drivetrain(termasuk transmisi) ini yg juga mayan kontribusi ke FC.
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setuju CVT pasti buat lebih irit. asal ngegasnya pelan-2, biar kecepatannya naik sendiri.
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intinya : kalo mo irit kudu sabar :D
kalo ga sabar mau naek spedah jg ga bakal irit :D :D abis di teh botol duitnya :D :D
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maksud gw juga "isi" bensin bro, bukan berarti bensin di mobil itu habis kan??? kalo gak salah masih ada sekitar 1/2 kurang dikit, kebetulan temen gw emang gak betah kalo bensin mobilnya kurang dari 1/2 makanya kita berhenti dan ngisi bensin, dan mobil sekarang juga canggih2 koq, kita gak usah ngukur manual, karena informasi yang di m.i.d menurut gw akurat, karena menghitung jumlah aktual konsumsi bahan bakar yang benar2 terpakai, dan tergantung cara mengemudi orangnya bro..
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