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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - Part 03

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Iseng..iseng..

lagi ada waktu senggang sedikit coba detailing Ford SCape. Tapi hikss... kayanya blm maksimal ya, mohon saran dari para pakar di sini.
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1. Meguairs ScratchX
2. Meguairs QuickWax
3. Kit Black Magic Tire Foam
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kalo mau aplikasi SRP pake mesin DA pad yg cocok make warna orange, hijau or putih bro2 sekalian?
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Misi mw tanya,
1. gmana cara apply polish ya? Drataken aja? Ato dgosok dgn sdkt tenaga? Trus abis itu d buff jg gk??
2. Apa polish butuh curing jg?
3. Apa arti dan maksud 'sealant'?? Bedanya ama wax apa?
4. Apa wax dgn bahan carnauba ga butuh curing? Beda wax berbahan carnauba dan sintetis apa?

Sekiranya om2 smua mw bantu gw yg newbie ini.. :ungg:
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Misi mw tanya,
1. gmana cara apply polish ya? Drataken aja? Ato dgosok dgn sdkt tenaga? Trus abis itu d buff jg gk??
Digosok pake tenaga sampe hampir kering. Di buff sebelum kering bener. Kalo gak, bakal susah buffnya
2. Apa polish butuh curing jg?
Kagak. Di buff disini berarti membersihkan semua sisa polish
3. Apa arti dan maksud 'sealant'?? Bedanya ama wax apa?
Sintetik wax. Wax dari natural wax. Biasanya carnauba. Bedanya, sealant lebih tahan lama dengan efek candy coated or lebih reflektif. Sedangkan wax cenderung lebih warm dan darker. Wax lebih kuat buat gangguan fisik seperti bird [cencored], karena lapisannya sedikit lebih tebal dari sealant. Cuma daya tahan kurang dari sealant. Kecuali collinite series.
4. Apa wax dgn bahan carnauba ga butuh curing? Beda wax berbahan carnauba dan sintetis apa?
Butuh juga. Supaya solventnya mengering terlebih dahulu. Ya disebu ndiatas bedanya
Sekiranya om2 smua mw bantu gw yg newbie ini.. :ungg:
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Nambah prtanyaan lg bleh ga om.. Semakin gw baca page2 trdahulu jd mkin byk ptanyaan..:ungg:
1. Apa cleaner dan polish mengikis clearcoat? Aman gk bwt dpake sering2? (sminggu/2minggu skali)
2. Kalo cleanerwax ngikis clearcoat gk? Aman bwt dpake sering2?
3. Kalo abis pake CW boleh ditimpa wax lg gak??

Maap ya..nanya mulu.. Ada aja nih prtanyaan d kpala.. :frm_bang_head:
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dodee wrote:kalo mau aplikasi SRP pake mesin DA pad yg cocok make warna orange, hijau or putih bro2 sekalian?
Yang ijo bro. abis poles tunggu ampe haze dulu baru di buff.
nikki wrote:Nambah prtanyaan lg bleh ga om.. Semakin gw baca page2 trdahulu jd mkin byk ptanyaan..:ungg:
1. Apa cleaner dan polish mengikis clearcoat? Aman gk bwt dpake sering2? (sminggu/2minggu skali)
2. Kalo cleanerwax ngikis clearcoat gk? Aman bwt dpake sering2?
3. Kalo abis pake CW boleh ditimpa wax lg gak??

Maap ya..nanya mulu.. Ada aja nih prtanyaan d kpala.. :frm_bang_head:
1. ngikis lah, namanya polish, tapi ya sedikit sekali. tidak berarti.... makanya permukaan swirl/fine scrtach bisa ilang. bukan nutup.
2. ada juga tp memang sedikit sekali, itungannya micron. AMAN sekali! :D
3. Boleh banget bro...
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ayoo dodee n nikki, dicatat yah biar kaga lupa. Itu salah satu master poles dah kaseh pengarahan yg baik n benar...... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Wah om sjamsul bisa aja nih...
ane belum master, masih banyak belajar. dunia detailing luas banget. baru segelintir yg bisa dikuasain.
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mas gio, NXT Tech Wax sama Collinite 915 bagusan mana? abis make SRP dilapisin sama salah satu produk tsb bagus mana?
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dodee wrote:mas gio, NXT Tech Wax sama Collinite 915 bagusan mana? abis make SRP dilapisin sama salah satu produk tsb bagus mana?

nubie numpang jawab yah.

1. nxt 2.0 techwax, mantap, jka sebelumnya apply claying+ scracth x, hasilnya gloss,deep dan sleek.. :D, kalo SRP+NXT gak tau..

SRp+915 jg gak tau...he.h.e.he.eheh


2. yg paling penting, tahap persiapan/preparation nya harus sempurna agar hasil yg didapat dari proses selanjutnya juga sempurna..

mohon CMIIW yah...
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ya personal preferences bro.
gw sih prefer 915. mungkin gw lebih suka wax daripada sealant sih. tp NXT v 2.0 juga uda bagus sekali, daripada yg pertama.
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kalo dikasih NXT trus ditambah lagi 915 gmn tuh mas gio?
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dodee wrote:kalo dikasih NXT trus ditambah lagi 915 gmn tuh mas gio?

Ini nih yg dari dulu pingin nyoba, tp waktunya gak sempat...he.h.eh.e.
Scratch X+nxt aja dah nyita waktu.. :D

iya nih Om Gio. kira2 kalo scratch X+ NXt trus di lapis 915 kira2 gimana yah? ada efek negatif kah?
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wah kalau itu gw belum pernah coba, gw juga gak punya wax Meguiars NXT.
di beberapa sealant ada yg bisa di top up dgn wax dan ada yg tidak bisa. mungkin satu-2 nya cara mau tau ya musti di test. tapi memang bagus sih dari sealant dikasih wax lagi, biar colornya lebih sadis.
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Gio, hanya mengulanngi

NXT 2.0 = Sealent
915 = Wax

rite?
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rite on...
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ya sudah, tinggal dicoba deh.. :D

gw sekarelawan nxt dah.. :e-whistle:
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ntar kapan2 nyoba ah....
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Suhu..
Kalo pemakain CW dan polish tu bole dpake sering2 sprti sminggu sekali??
Kalo abis ngewax kan ada proses curing tu, kendaraan boleh lgsg dbawa jalan ga? Ato kudu nunggu curing nya slse dl? (12/24 jam)
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sjamsul wrote:ayoo dodee n nikki, dicatat yah biar kaga lupa. Itu salah satu master poles dah kaseh pengarahan yg baik n benar...... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
Iya bro.. Part 1 dan 2 dah dlalap habis.. Trnyata ilmunya buanyaaaak bgt.. Hebat de suhu2 dsini.. :off_good_job:
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ane bukan suhu, tp numpang jawab aja.

biasanya produk2 yg membutuhkan curing time, di kemasannya ada disebut mengenai hal itu.
contoh. Megs UQD, di situ disebut curing time 12 jam untuk mendapatkan hasil maksimal.

Jika produknya sifatnya sintetis (seperti NXT 2.0), walau tidak disebut di kemasannya , untuk mendapatkan hasil maksimum atao seblm apply layer berikutnya , harus ada curing time.

Kalo yg sifatnya natural, seprti carnauba, gak perlu.

hayo..hayo...kalo ada yg salah monggo di koreksi segera yaaa....


Kalo pake tangan, apply CW, ato wax, ato sealent sering2 kayaknya gak papa deh..
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Abu2 wrote:ane bukan suhu, tp numpang jawab aja.

biasanya produk2 yg membutuhkan curing time, di kemasannya ada disebut mengenai hal itu.
contoh. Megs UQD, di situ disebut curing time 12 jam untuk mendapatkan hasil maksimal.

Jika produknya sifatnya sintetis (seperti NXT 2.0), walau tidak disebut di kemasannya , untuk mendapatkan hasil maksimum atao seblm apply layer berikutnya , harus ada curing time.

Kalo yg sifatnya natural, seprti carnauba, gak perlu.

hayo..hayo...kalo ada yg salah monggo di koreksi segera yaaa....


Kalo pake tangan, apply CW, ato wax, ato sealent sering2 kayaknya gak papa deh..
Iya suhu..hehe.. Maksud gw klo lagi proses curing,kendaraan blh dbawa jalan keluar rmh dl ga?
Kalo apply cleaner dan polish blh smggu skali om? (pakek tgn)
Thx pencerahannya.. :thanks:
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wah, gw ini muridnya suhu2 yg ada disini..masih nubie banget..

kalo pake tw PUG, ato wax2 lain yg natural, mungkin boleh2 aja.
Kalo pake sealent/sintetis/polymer base, harus ada curing Bro..biar obatnya bekerja sempurna dulu.
Makanya ane seringnya moles itu mulainya sore2 ato malem2, lalu besok pagi nya mobil siap tempur..

mengenai sering ato tidaknya moles pake CW ato polis, ya tergantung produknya, abrasive ato tidak..kalo CW mother ato Meg ato Zymol harusnya aman buat clear coat, apalagi kalo pake tangan..sering2 pun gakpapa.
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lagipula, kalo cucinya pake shampoo yg bagus, mestinya gak perlu moles dalam seminggu, buang2 waktu, boros tenaga dan boros di obat2an..

Abis cuci, cukup semprot UQD ato Quick Wax ato wax cair saja..mudah2an, berkilau dan licin lagi dia...
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Cth produk2 yg abrasif tu apa ya suhu.. Pengen coba DC2 nih.. Tp keknya kalo sminggu skali pakenya ga bgs buat clearcoat kali ya? Kan pas polish ada cuttingnya jg?
CW ada curingnya jg om..?
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apa ya yg abrasif? sejauh aplikasi nya pake tangan, dan di kemasan tertulis aman buat CC, seprtinya gak banyak produk2 buat preparation yg abrasive.

kalo meguiars, Scratch X, DC1 sepertinya abrasive jika pake mesin, kalo pake tangan nggak . Cmiiw, gak tau deh produk2 lain yg abrasive itu apa aja. Acuan gw, kalao dikemasannya tertulis aman buat clear coat, ya berarti amanlah dia.

Saran Gw..
kalo mau ambil produknya MEgs..
buat preparation/persiapan/tahap awal setelah cuci
1. Clay kit / smooth surface --> jika dioperlukan
2. scratch X --> 2 bulan sekali
3. dilanjutkan dgn NXT 2.0 tech wax. 2 - 3 minggu sekali
4. Maintain selalu dgn Megs UQD

buat yg simple2 aja itu cukup mnrt gw..

gw dah pake DC1+DC2+NXT, hasilnya masih lebih mantap jauh Scratch X + NXT

Untuk CW, karena CW itu adalah produk All In One (AIO) , mnrt gw jika memang dibutuhkan curing time, dikemasan pasti disebut
CW yg gw pake (Mothers) gak butuh curing...
abis cuci, apply CW ....jreeng deh...

kalo DC2 digunakan sendiri, tetap aja mnrt gw hasilnya gak sempurna.

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