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itu kan namanya startegi diferensiasi harga buat misahin swift ma SX4.syg bgt si mank swift didown gt..
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Bro HP(horse power)ngefeknya ke top speed sama kemampuan akselerasi..saya lupa baca dimana (jurnal ilmiah) yg jelas itu ada kaitannya..
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HP ngaruh ke top speed and torsi yang ngaruh buat akselerasi..jadi nae 10 HP juga berasnya kalo udah di kcptan tinggi.kalo di dlm kota si ya belum tentu berasa
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bukan;
besar torque/torsi itu kontribusi signifikan terhadap bukaan pedal sedikit2 atau akselerasi2 ringan, ini at the end juga ada kontribusi relatif ke fuel consumption.
besar power/daya itu kontribusi siginifikan pada akselerasi dgn bukaan pedal maksimum (Wide Open Throttle) saat akselerasi berat/hard terutama saat passing2 kendaraan lain di luar kota maupun jalan tol (tapi besar daya cukup signifikan juga walaupun dari diam/awal akselerasi).
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btw.. harga kisaran di 170an jt ++
spek paling tinggi akan berbeda kurang lebih 17jt dengan harga jazz yg skarang
so..
jazz vtec abs a/t = 172.500.000,-
estimasi all new honda jazz SV = 189.500.000,-

>> baru gocip yah ^^

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Bro sudah ada yang nyiapin budget bwt beli all new jazz 2008 terus cari musuh di cipularang..(yaitu ya**s)..hehehehe.bakal seru nich..mana ya yg menang???
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bos... kira2 spek down brp % yah.. penasaran jg sy

kalo liat harga baht kan ga sesuai tuh ama harga yg nanti di rilis di indo
kira2 apa aja yg spek down yah?

IMHO sih.. better kalo integrated audionya di sunat ajah.. mending ganti audio biasa ky jazz yg skarang.. enak utak atiknya.. ganti jadi tv atau ganti head unit jadi ga ribet

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judehonda wrote: IMHO sih.. better kalo integrated audionya di sunat ajah..
Justru gw lbh suka mobil yg audionya integrated, keliatannya lbh bagus en rapi, krn designnya jg lbh klop dgn design dashboardnya.
Design dashboard yg bagus jd keliatan jelek en murahan dgn non integrated audio spt yg biasa di kasih olh ATPM ATPM di Indonesia, NMI udah cukup pintar, pake integrated audio di produk produk barunya, jd keliatannya lbh rapi, gw punya feeling X-Trail yg baru juga akan diluncurkan dgn integrated audio.
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yg integrated tidak fleksibel, sekarang jaman touchscreen, USB, bluetooth, perkembangan head unit cukup dinamis, model integrated tidak fleksibel kalo mau ganti baik upgrade or saat sudah bosan.
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tapi kata temen2 yg lain...
ambil contoh yaris.. di thailand lebih mahal.. tapi fitur sama aja ama di indo?
sebenernya sih.. jangan sampe ada penyunatan ^^
tapi ga tau yah

still 4 me.. mending integrated audio.. soalnya... disini banyak yg udah pakai car entertainment
kalo integrated.. susah utak atik.. lom lagi kalo hasil ga rapih?

yg jangan sampe disunat = MID.. duh jangan ampe deh
tapi bingung jg nich.. masalahnya di crv aja.. MID ga ada
kalo di jazz ada.. rasanya ga fair buat CRV
jadi MID agak2 riskan disunat T_T

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Bro di CR-V ada koc MID bisa dilihat di tengah antara tachometer sama speedometer..yang ga ada tuh civic..bahkan accord terbaru aja ga ada..ckckckck,..
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bro judehonda.kisaran hrg plg rendah new jazz kl gt brp?? start from 160 an apa 170 an??
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MID kaga penting2 amat kok,
pengen tau suhu udara? tinggal nyalain ac aja kalo kepanasan, kedinginan tinggal kecilin....

pengen tau konsumsi bbm?? dihitung manual aja, malah lebih akurat kok

integrated audio lebih keren seh, cuman bener2 mesti yg komplit (usb, mmc, aux-in, dll)
kalo ngga komplit mah bikin susah doank, mendingan ga usah integrated

omong2 Jazz baru dah pasti masuk yg i-vtec?? takutnya di sunat kayak altis loh (mestinya dual vvt-i )
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@HilmanZ : Itu sis lho..

@lucky_strike_21 : kayanya ada kemungkinana disunat..huehehe.. Indo.. :D Tapi kalo gak disunat, bye bye CVT.. hehehe... Transmisi yang masih lemot untuk SAAT ini.. IMHO
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i-vtec nich
kalo honda sich.. biasanya yg di thailand ama indo tuh sama persis
cm beda fitur2nya aja

huuuuuu
masa dipanggil bro mulu
payah neeeee
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pengen banget nich new jazz...

harga 170-an jt keatas sih katanya
harusnya dengan harga segitu.. udah i-vtec
ga logis lah kalo beda sampe 17jt lebih tapi mesin masih sama

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datsu wrote:@HilmanZ : Itu sis lho..

@lucky_strike_21 : kayanya ada kemungkinana disunat..huehehe.. Indo.. :D Tapi kalo gak disunat, bye bye CVT.. hehehe... Transmisi yang masih lemot untuk SAAT ini.. IMHO
CVT lemot ? masa si..? kok gw ngerasany beda ya, transmisi yg pernh gw coba cvt honda plng oke punya. apalg kl pas plng ke lampng, jln naek turun perlu nyalip keceptn tinggi, set di S pencet 7Speed mode <jgn mainin shift up,down> gw bilng plng mantp tuh..
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judehonda wrote:i-vtec nich
kalo honda sich.. biasanya yg di thailand ama indo tuh sama persis
cm beda fitur2nya aja

huuuuuu
masa dipanggil bro mulu
payah neeeee
wkwkwkw

pengen banget nich new jazz...

harga 170-an jt keatas sih katanya
harusnya dengan harga segitu.. udah i-vtec
ga logis lah kalo beda sampe 17jt lebih tapi mesin masih sama

thx
wah maap sis..kirain co gitu lho..hehe..trnyt...

tinggi juga ya kisaran hrg nya..saya juga pengen new jazz ko kalo nanti liad fitur ok..hehe
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kalo menurut saya si malah CVT itu tenaga nya ngisi banget.Saya punya Vios lama isi pertamax tapi larinya klh cpt ma Jazz saya yg mnm premium baik ptran rendah maupun tinggi..
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HilmanZ wrote:kalo menurut saya si malah CVT itu tenaga nya ngisi banget.Saya punya Vios lama isi pertamax tapi larinya klh cpt ma Jazz saya yg mnm premium baik ptran rendah maupun tinggi..
iya bro hilmanz. kl dlm kota nyaman bgt pake D. dah nyobain di tol/luar kota pake S teken 7 speed mode ( tapi ga pake manual ) ? ini mantap bgt buat lari bro, rasio gigi rapat2 jd loss power minim sangat membantu untk overtaking.
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hehehe.. CVT itu cuman punya satu belt..gak ada rasio gigi.. gak ada gigi bahkan.. hehehehe.
sori gw salah kata, CVT lemot menurut gw buat nyampe top speed, kalo buat dalkot gak tau yah.. mudah overtaking yang dikarenakan memang powerloss yang sedikit karena pake belt, bukan gigi. Tapi giliran diajak high RPM...hhhmmmm...

Skrng tinggal cek aja, kalo memang sangat bagus, kenapa i-VTEC baru gak dipasangin ama CVT? Buat gw pasti akan lebih kenceng jazz i-VTEC pake torque converter drpd CVT. Mungkin bisa jadi salah satu matik yang bisa dilawan dengan enak di cipul.. Gak kaya VTEC+CVT. Sayang........

@HilmanZ: matik vios lama kalo kalah normal, emang jelek.. Tapi coba yang baru... kalo vios lama manual kalaha ama jazz CVT, itu sih viosnya berpenyakit... hehehe...
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gigi itu kan sama aja ratio nya, kalo ratio terbatas lebih kurang dinamis, apalagi cuma dgn pilhan 4 ratio (4 speed a/t) compared to unlimited CVT ratio.
krn itu tenaga pakai CVT itu lebih berisi daripada pakai a/t biasa, krn ratio sudah 'cenderung' tepat selama perjalanan.
Rpm tinggi pd CVT juga tidak masalah malah bisa konstan lebih lama (drpd pd a/t biasa) selama dalamnya bukaan pedal gas.
That's why banyak mobil2 keluaran akhir aplikasikan CVT ini termasuk Audi, nissan dan toyota.
Vios a/t kalah responsif responsif terutama di luarkota dan pegunungan.
Honda belum aplikasikan pada cc besar (lebih dari 1500cc) karena ada keterbatasan teknologi juga untuk CVT (yg boleh dibilang berumur masih bayi saat ini), namun Audi & nissan sudah aplikasikan CVT pd cc besar.
Still, kemungkinan besar jazz baru nanti akan pakai 5 speed a/t (=thai domestic market) bukan CVT seperti JDM.
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datsu wrote:hehehe.. CVT itu cuman punya satu belt..gak ada rasio gigi.. gak ada gigi bahkan.. hehehehe.
sori gw salah kata, CVT lemot menurut gw buat nyampe top speed, kalo buat dalkot gak tau yah.. mudah overtaking yang dikarenakan memang powerloss yang sedikit karena pake belt, bukan gigi. Tapi giliran diajak high RPM...hhhmmmm...

Skrng tinggal cek aja, kalo memang sangat bagus, kenapa i-VTEC baru gak dipasangin ama CVT? Buat gw pasti akan lebih kenceng jazz i-VTEC pake torque converter drpd CVT. Mungkin bisa jadi salah satu matik yang bisa dilawan dengan enak di cipul.. Gak kaya VTEC+CVT. Sayang........

@HilmanZ: matik vios lama kalo kalah normal, emang jelek.. Tapi coba yang baru... kalo vios lama manual kalaha ama jazz CVT, itu sih viosnya berpenyakit... hehehe...
untuk high RPM, lebih mudah didapet deh berpulang setelan CVT bisa di set seperti matic 7 speed. dengan ratio gigi rapat memperingan percepatan. kl setelan ditempatkan di D saja ( full CVT ) emang terasa kurng natural dan untk high speed terasa kurang mantap. berhubung bisa dikunci jadi 7 speed matic dalam hal ini bukan berprilaku sebagai CVT, berprilaku seperti matic konvensional namun dengan 7 tingkat percepatan hal ini yang mempermudah overtaking n main di high RPM. hal ini saya rasakan saat saya pulang kandang, dari turun kapal ( bakauheni ) sampai bandar lampung berjarak kurang lebih 90 Km, di sana treknya 90 % naik, turun, berkelok dan banyk mobil2 besar, nah saat saya selipkan persneling di D ( CVT ) memang terasa kurang greget untuk main di high RPM berbeda rasanya dengan saat jalan di dalkot dimana terasa responsif. setelah saya cobaiin mode2 matic yang ada di Jazz/ City, ternyata untuk trek seperti itu yang paling enak adalah posisi di S tekan 7 speed mode ( jangan mainkan shift up/down biarkan komputer yg atur ) untuk main di high RPM n overtaking jauh lebih enak.

btw, new jazz pake matic torque converter 5 speed ya ?? soryy oot ketingln berita

Tp di autobild saat wartawan di undang launch new jazz di jepang, mereka sempet nyobain jazz i-vtec 120ps tp mash dengan transmsi CVT seperti yang ada sekarang.
hasil review akselerasi meningkat 0-100kpj a/t dpt 9 detikan. untuk yang manual dpt 8,9 detikan..
comment tuh wartawan autobild memang sempet mengkritisi performa CVT, dimana untuk dipadukan dengan mesin baru ( 120 ps / 6300 rpm ) performa CVT terasa agak kewalahan..
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Terserah deh kl ratio=gear.. Gw ga ketemu d kamus mana2.. Bosen bahasnya..

Mw bayi ato apapun buat gw..gw tekankan.. 'buat gw' ga akan beli CVT ampe emang menurut gw layak.. Dan honda thailand blajar kl jazz vtec itu bwt ngebut, bukan santai..
Hehe, jgn maksa pendapat yah.. Utk gw pribadi mah kya gini..
CVT uda bgs bwt irit, tp blm apa2 bwt kenceng..

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jadi xtrail ama latio tu rpm atasnya ga sehebat putaran bawah karena CVT toh
baru tau gw... gitu toh....
dulunya kirain semua nissan kuat di bawah lemah diatas, tapi baru tau gw kalo ternyata gara2 CVT