All New X-Trail - PART 01

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ikut nimbrung ya,
dulu gw pernah liat bengkel ngilangin bunyi2an di dashboard dgn menyemportkan soundeadening.
Apakah SMers sekalain pernah punya pengalaman dgn cairan ini? (moisekiller, soundeadening etc)..
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Abu2 wrote:ikut nimbrung ya,
dulu gw pernah liat bengkel ngilangin bunyi2an di dashboard dgn menyemportkan soundeadening.
Apakah SMers sekalain pernah punya pengalaman dgn cairan ini? (moisekiller, soundeadening etc)..
cairan apaan tuh bro ? conth mereknya apa n makenya gmn ?
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nah, itu jg gw krg tau, namanya soundeadening , ada noisekiller etc, mereknya gw kurang tau, ntar cb browse di google dulu.. :D
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remedusakti wrote:bro2... minggu ini gw tukeran CRV gw ama x-trail bokap coz dia minta dilapisin jok.
ada beberapa yang mau gw sharing n mohon solusinya dari bro2 Smers
1. kl neh mobil ngelewatin polisi tidur dimana ban depan ga bareng napaknya kabin bunyinya krenyet-krenyet kaya plastik saling bergesekan. konsol tengah pun gw goyang2 pake tangan juga bunyi krenyet2 gt.ada yang tau ga ngilanginnya gmn ?
2. kl ngelewatin polisi tidur dikaki-kaki ada bunyi gluduk-gluduk gt, rencana minggu depan bawa ke beres nissan deh. rekan SMers yg punya x-trail ngalamin gini ga ?
3. kl jalan hajar jalan berlobang kabin bunyinya 'der..der..' gt.
4. ban baru ganti tetep pake dunlop grantrek 215/65/16 AT ST20, ban kerasa keras bgt, tadinya gw nuduh neh pasti angin ban >35psi, trus gw cek eh ternyata standar cm 29 psi, akhirnya gw kempesin jadi 26 psi karena bannya keras n kl hantam jalan berlubang kabin bunyi ' der..der'
5. getaran dikabin keras waktu kompresor AC nyala, kl posisi gigi di N kompresor AC nyala getaran ga begitu terasa, tp kl posisi D trus kompresor AC mati - nyala waduh getarannya keras bgt kerasa bgt dikabin.
6. suspensi x-trail kan terkenal nyaman tp kok sekarang gw ngerasa ga begitu empuk lagi deh, karena faktor apa ya ? apa karena baru ganti ban, mungkin spek bannya keras.

bro2 skalian yang punya x-trail begitu ga ya? kira2 apa ya solusinya ?
1. krenyet2 akibat gesekan plastik interior, solusi: lumasi pake cairan dashboard. Kalo bunyi tek..tek... itu kabel yang bersentuhan dengan plastik interior, coba buka bagian in-cabin microfilter, terus kabel2 yg melayang di selotip.
2. X-trail gue nggak bunyi kayak gitu tuh, coba check kaki-kaki
3-4. bunyi der..der.. coba ganti ban Michelin XM1 215/65 R 16 kaya punya gue, bantingannya empuk...
5. check aja ke beres, punya gua gak kejadian
6. betul... gue udah gati Michelin, jauh lebih nyaman....
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Abu2 wrote:ikut nimbrung ya,
dulu gw pernah liat bengkel ngilangin bunyi2an di dashboard dgn menyemportkan soundeadening.
Apakah SMers sekalain pernah punya pengalaman dgn cairan ini? (moisekiller, soundeadening etc)..
punya gue barusan pake soundclad-nya tuff kote dinol, nanti gue kasih repotnya lengkap.
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soraksorai wrote:
remedusakti wrote:bro2... minggu ini gw tukeran CRV gw ama x-trail bokap coz dia minta dilapisin jok.
ada beberapa yang mau gw sharing n mohon solusinya dari bro2 Smers
1. kl neh mobil ngelewatin polisi tidur dimana ban depan ga bareng napaknya kabin bunyinya krenyet-krenyet kaya plastik saling bergesekan. konsol tengah pun gw goyang2 pake tangan juga bunyi krenyet2 gt.ada yang tau ga ngilanginnya gmn ?
2. kl ngelewatin polisi tidur dikaki-kaki ada bunyi gluduk-gluduk gt, rencana minggu depan bawa ke beres nissan deh. rekan SMers yg punya x-trail ngalamin gini ga ?
3. kl jalan hajar jalan berlobang kabin bunyinya 'der..der..' gt.
4. ban baru ganti tetep pake dunlop grantrek 215/65/16 AT ST20, ban kerasa keras bgt, tadinya gw nuduh neh pasti angin ban >35psi, trus gw cek eh ternyata standar cm 29 psi, akhirnya gw kempesin jadi 26 psi karena bannya keras n kl hantam jalan berlubang kabin bunyi ' der..der'
5. getaran dikabin keras waktu kompresor AC nyala, kl posisi gigi di N kompresor AC nyala getaran ga begitu terasa, tp kl posisi D trus kompresor AC mati - nyala waduh getarannya keras bgt kerasa bgt dikabin.
6. suspensi x-trail kan terkenal nyaman tp kok sekarang gw ngerasa ga begitu empuk lagi deh, karena faktor apa ya ? apa karena baru ganti ban, mungkin spek bannya keras.

bro2 skalian yang punya x-trail begitu ga ya? kira2 apa ya solusinya ?
1. krenyet2 akibat gesekan plastik interior, solusi: lumasi pake cairan dashboard. Kalo bunyi tek..tek... itu kabel yang bersentuhan dengan plastik interior, coba buka bagian in-cabin microfilter, terus kabel2 yg melayang di selotip.
2. X-trail gue nggak bunyi kayak gitu tuh, coba check kaki-kaki
3-4. bunyi der..der.. coba ganti ban Michelin XM1 215/65 R 16 kaya punya gue, bantingannya empuk...
5. check aja ke beres, punya gua gak kejadian
6. betul... gue udah gati Michelin, jauh lebih nyaman....
btw, harga ban michelin brp bro ? dunlop emng perasaan kers gt jd kelembtn susp ketutp ama kkrsn susp..
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remedusakti wrote:
btw, harga ban michelin brp bro ? dunlop emng perasaan kers gt jd kelembtn susp ketutp ama kkrsn susp..
iya bro... :e-doh: ban standarnya emang keras bgt... :e-doh:

kalo diisi lebih dari 30psi langsung deh jadi keras bgt... :glodak:
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sementara ban xtrail gue biarin pabrikan dulu... lumayan ngirit lah... hehehe, ntar kalo udah abis baru ganti yg bagusan. :D
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poeticmind wrote:sementara ban xtrail gue biarin pabrikan dulu... lumayan ngirit lah... hehehe, ntar kalo udah abis baru ganti yg bagusan. :D
iya nih bro... :e-whistle: lagi nungguin bannya biar botak dolo... :e-pray: :mrgreen:


diapain yak? :mrgreen: yok...maen slalom & nge-drift di sirkuit... :e-wall: :mrgreen:


wakakakaka... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Hansen wrote:
poeticmind wrote:sementara ban xtrail gue biarin pabrikan dulu... lumayan ngirit lah... hehehe, ntar kalo udah abis baru ganti yg bagusan. :D
iya nih bro... :e-whistle: lagi nungguin bannya biar botak dolo... :e-pray: :mrgreen:


diapain yak? :mrgreen: yok...maen slalom & nge-drift di sirkuit... :e-wall: :mrgreen:


wakakakaka... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
wah wah.... pada binun ngabisin ban neh. btw, soal keawetan ban dunlop grandtrek emng awet bgt bro, KM 50an ribu baru minta ganti tuh ban, n ga ada kerusakan pada ban. keluhannya cuma bising bgt n keras.

btw, hari ini gw plng nyalonin x-trail di daerah kebon jeruk, salon luar dalem dari pagi ampe jam 5 sore. mayan cat hitam terasa nyala lagi. dashboard malah ga dikasi cairan pengilap dashboard, pas gw tanya yang punya salon bilng cairan tersebut bisa bikin warna dashboard belang, bener deh gw dulu ngasi tuh cairan ga rata n tadi keliatan gitu dashboard belang. :e-think: :e-think: :roll:
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Hansen wrote:
poeticmind wrote:sementara ban xtrail gue biarin pabrikan dulu... lumayan ngirit lah... hehehe, ntar kalo udah abis baru ganti yg bagusan. :D
iya nih bro... :e-whistle: lagi nungguin bannya biar botak dolo... :e-pray: :mrgreen:


diapain yak? :mrgreen: yok...maen slalom & nge-drift di sirkuit... :e-wall: :mrgreen:


wakakakaka... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
dipake ke bandung aja, sen... ntar balik lagi, yakin agak nipis-in lho... :ngacir:
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remedusakti wrote:
Hansen wrote:
poeticmind wrote:sementara ban xtrail gue biarin pabrikan dulu... lumayan ngirit lah... hehehe, ntar kalo udah abis baru ganti yg bagusan. :D
iya nih bro... :e-whistle: lagi nungguin bannya biar botak dolo... :e-pray: :mrgreen:


diapain yak? :mrgreen: yok...maen slalom & nge-drift di sirkuit... :e-wall: :mrgreen:


wakakakaka... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
wah wah.... pada binun ngabisin ban neh. btw, soal keawetan ban dunlop grandtrek emng awet bgt bro, KM 50an ribu baru minta ganti tuh ban, n ga ada kerusakan pada ban. keluhannya cuma bising bgt n keras.

btw, hari ini gw plng nyalonin x-trail di daerah kebon jeruk, salon luar dalem dari pagi ampe jam 5 sore. mayan cat hitam terasa nyala lagi. dashboard malah ga dikasi cairan pengilap dashboard, pas gw tanya yang punya salon bilng cairan tersebut bisa bikin warna dashboard belang, bener deh gw dulu ngasi tuh cairan ga rata n tadi keliatan gitu dashboard belang. :e-think: :e-think: :roll:
grandtrek bising...??

klo keras sih emang iya... (jd kurang nyaman)

tp klo bising... relatif... IMHO itu emang peredam suaranya X-Trail kurang dibagian kolongnya... itu emang kelemahan X-Trail... gaktau deh klo New X-Trail keluar ntar gimana....

gue prnh coba Toyota RAV4 pny temen.. sm2 pake Dunlop Grandtrek juga.... suaranya halus koq, cm emang agak keras klo hajar lobang... :mrgreen:

pasang soundproof aja... dibagian kolong full-peredam...
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tp klo bising... relatif... IMHO itu emang peredam suaranya X-Trail kurang dibagian kolongnya... itu emang kelemahan X-Trail... gaktau deh klo New X-Trail keluar ntar gimana....

gue prnh coba Toyota RAV4 pny temen.. sm2 pake Dunlop Grandtrek juga.... suaranya halus koq, cm emang agak keras klo hajar lobang... :mrgreen:

pasang soundproof aja... dibagian kolong full-peredam...[/quote]

oh ternyata di RAV4 ga bsng ya ? bener bro, kmrn di outlet audio langganan gw dia bilng suara berisik xtrail berasal dari kolong gt. full peredam mayan juga dia nawarin 4 jutaan..berharap si buat new xtrail ada peningkatan kualitas baik di peredaman, stabilitas n kualitas material interior.
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masang peredam cair dari luar ntah bisa ga yah?
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bro2.. mau laporan lg neh. barsn plng dr beres nissan ganti bushing stabilizer. bunyi gluduk2 hilng sama skali. sesuai diagnosis montir mingg lalu.. iseng2 tany ama SA mereka jalanin perwtn mobil sesuai manual book or dicustom, kata mrk sesuai manual book kec konsumen sendr yg minta.
beda bgt ama beres honda yg custom intervl perwtn semauny sendr.
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ZombiEE wrote:masang peredam cair dari luar ntah bisa ga yah?
bisa, peredam semprot maksudnya kan? seperti Tuff dan ziebart. saya sering kok ngerjain xtrail temen2 di garasi... hasilnya jauh sebelum dan sesudah nya... sunyi abis di cabin. :)
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berarti itu dari luar yo pak poectic?:)

haduh..ini mobil bagasi nya betul2..grrhhhhhggggg
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betul disemprot dari luar... seperti plinkot, tapi utk meredam suara... nama beken nya : sound proofing. biasanya sepaket dengan anti karat. jika tidak diperlukan, ambil saja paket sound proofing nya.

di setiap kota ada kok bro... jika tidak mau repot bisa minta tolong ke BeRes Nissan. mereka biasanya ada kerja sama, harga mirip2 lah, saya rasa ga beda jauh.
pengerjaan sekitar 1hari penuh... masuk pagi, sore bisa diambil. nanti bro akan diberitahu paket2nya, bisa full body, half body. kalo full biasanya sampai ke dalam2 cabin (lepas doortrim).

bagasinya? maksudnya bro?
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yeah bro...suara lantai bagasi nya gemeretak manakala lewat jalan gak mulus..payah nih..ooo...macam ziebart gitu yah..itu emg berkhasiat?:)
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waaaaaah kalo bagasi jangan disemprot bro! waduh sayang.... kalo itu caranya dilapis saja dengan peredam karet tipis, atau pake peredam akustik, bisa tanya2 di toko audio... saya juga pake peredam akustik yg lembaran itu, so... sekarang sih daerah bagasi ga bunyi sama sekali.
kecuali bawa barang... pasti ada lah bunyi2... :)
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gua barusan pake soundproof cair dari tuffkote dinol, merk-nya soundclad.
aplikasinya disemprotkan ke bagian berikut:
- kap mesin (under the hood)
- lantai bawah, disemprot dari luar
- firewall bagian atas (bagian plastik di bawah wiper, tempat udara luar masuk ke AC, dicopot lalu disemprot)
- keempat ruang roda (spakbor)
- pintu-pintu samping (bekleding dibuka)
- pintu belakang.

fungsi:
- meredam suara
- mencegah karat (tidak perlu dianti karat lagi)

hasil:
- suara dari luar/samping lebih teredam
- bau aspalnya sangat pekat, kira2 semingguan baru hilang, itupun sudah diberi penyerap bau.
- road noise dari jalanan yang kasar masih terasa, tetapi sudah agak berkurang.

kesimpulan:
- layak diaplikasikan, mengingat selain meredam suara, juga mampu menangkal karat.
- mampu menjangkau bagian2 yg sulit dijangkau oleh peredam tempel/lembaran.
- jika ingin lebih senyap lagi, tambahkan peredam lembaran dynamat extreme.
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remedusakti wrote:bro2.. mau laporan lg neh. barsn plng dr beres nissan ganti bushing stabilizer. bunyi gluduk2 hilng sama skali. sesuai diagnosis montir mingg lalu.. iseng2 tany ama SA mereka jalanin perwtn mobil sesuai manual book or dicustom, kata mrk sesuai manual book kec konsumen sendr yg minta.
beda bgt ama beres honda yg custom intervl perwtn semauny sendr.
bushing stabilizer? berapa harganya bro? apakah musti ganti di ke-empat roda x-trail? pengerjaanya berapa lama bro?
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remedusakti wrote:btw, harga ban michelin brp bro ? dunlop emng perasaan kers gt jd kelembtn susp ketutp ama kkrsn susp..
gue udah ganti kira2 setahun yg lalu, harganya sekitar Rp. 650.000 per buah. Lumayan murah, soalnya ban lama gue dihargai Rp. 100.000 per buah, jadi cukup nambah Rp. 550.000 saja.

Oh ya, kalo mau ganti ban, justru pas kembangan masih agak tebel, kalo terlalu tipis, biasanya dihargainya murah banget. malah kadang toko ban kagak mau nerima.
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iya bro..tapi berat nya jg bertambah signifikan yah kalo pake peredam byk2..huhhuhuhuhuhu
thanks for the info bang poectic:)
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ga juga bro Zombie, peredam semprot seperti TUFF/ziebart/3M ga berat... saya jamin.

peredam akustik yg saya maksud buat di bagian bagasi pun ringan... peredam yg berat adalah peredam aspal, yaitu peredam seperti lembaran aspal yg dipanaskan hingga mengikuti lekukan besi body. tapi kalo semprot dan akustik ga ada pengaruhnya ke xtrail yg gede gitu... itu sih seperti bawa anak bayi baru lahir...
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