Toyota Bellefire - Alphard's brother

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Re: Toyota Bellefire - Alphard's brother

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GTR wrote:FT-MV = New alphard, tapi sepertinya interiornya mirip Bellefire.
nah yg exterior Bellefire itu jadinya apa ya?
Kemaren ada pameran iseng2 nanya tentang New Alphard ini. Siapa tau Alphard lama mau dituker sama yang baru hehe... :lol:

Ternyata ALPHARD 2008 ini ada 2 model, untuk mesin 2.4L modelnya persis seperti model conceptnya (saya upload disini).
Sedangkan yang 3.5L modelnya sama dengan yang diupload oleh bro blindzero diatas. Model lampu depan dan belakang di split. Yang 3.5L dinamai ALPHARD VELFIRE.
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plasworld88 wrote:
DigitALL wrote:Ternyata benar Alphard baru ya bro, kalau di Jepang udah keluar paling bentar lagi juga masuk Indo hehe...
Sebagai market leader Luxurious MPV, Alphard pasti laris manis.
you bet..hehehe
katanya total populasi Alphard di Indo kan 18 rb an..udh pasti dong banyak yg mau inden yg baru (kyk LX 570) :lol:
Haha betul bro. ALPHARD populasinya paling banyak di kelas MPV mewah. Udah nyaman, mewah, luas, resale value bagus, apalagi sih yg kurang selain harganya yg mahal hehe :lol:

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Model conceptnya tidak beda jauh dengan New ALPHARD 2008. Kalau versi VELFIRE memang beda di lampunya karena model pisah. Sektor interior jg mirip dgn conceptnya, lampu interior memanjang dari depan hingga belakang di kedua sisi bagian atap. Nice Design! 8)
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Re: Toyota Bellefire - Alphard's brother

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berarti yang tipe 2.4 L tidak ada perbedaan mencolok dong ya.....
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Modelnya memang seperti itu kurang lebih, Rini sendiri sudah mendapatkan spesifikasi New Alphardnya.
Untuk versi 3500cc perkiraan harga di IMS kisaran 1,1 Milyar Rupiah.
Sudah bisa di inden di Rini :weekk:
Spesifikasinya bisa di lihat di http://rinisumasdi.blogspot.com/2008/05 ... phard.html
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harga Alphard sama Vellfire di Japan liat di:

http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/08/0512.html

versi paling mahal disono 4,5 jt Yen , kira2 400jtaan doang.
lumayan buat ngira2 bisa untung berapa TAM klo masukin ini :mrgreen:
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koolrider wrote:harga Alphard sama Vellfire di Japan liat di:

http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/08/0512.html

versi paling mahal disono 4,5 jt Yen , kira2 400jtaan doang.
lumayan buat ngira2 bisa untung berapa TAM klo masukin ini :mrgreen:
Tinggal lihat aja, apakah importir mobil bisa masukin dengan harga yang lebih murah..... bukannya 3000cc keatas potong pajak 90% yah... kok masih mahal yah, dihitung 1.1miliar ama TAM........ Kalau udah begini IU bisa mainin harga juga nih... :shrug:
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Pak ini buat perbandingan saja yah sebelum Rini tau perkiraan harga 1,1 Milyar ini dari pusat di kaskus sudah ada IU yang menjual harga mirip dengan TAM yaitu kisaran 1,1 Milyar juga di tanggal 16 April 2008 linknya ada disini http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=665961&page=4.

Jadi kelihatannya memang skema pajak di Indo kelihatannya yang membuat harga2 mobil terutama yang CBU menjadi lebih tinggi. CMIIW :)
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rinisumasdi wrote:Pak ini buat perbandingan saja yah sebelum Rini tau perkiraan harga 1,1 Milyar ini dari pusat di kaskus sudah ada IU yang menjual harga mirip dengan TAM yaitu kisaran 1,1 Milyar juga di tanggal 16 April 2008 linknya ada disini http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=665961&page=4.

Jadi kelihatannya memang skema pajak di Indo kelihatannya yang membuat harga2 mobil terutama yang CBU menjadi lebih tinggi. CMIIW :)
Mahalnya..... jadi lebih milih S Class daripada Alphard......

Bukannya TAM sudah deal dengan Jepang untuk potong pajak 90% ya... kok masih 1,1 miliar ya... bingung gw... padahal di Jepang ga sampe 1miliar :e-doh:
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kasiaan d konsumen kita ,jadi "sapi" perahan .
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Kok kenapa ga ada yg versi 2.4 ya biar harganya lebih kompetitif ? 3.5 juga konsumsi bensin akan lebih boros :(
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yg 2.4 ltr ada sob. sekitar 700jt+ dr IU
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Apakah bisa Alphard demandnya setinggi versi sebelumnya nih, mengingat harga'nya naik tinggi.
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konon di indonesia ini ada belasan ribu alphard yg beredar ( +/- 15rb) , entah benar entah tidak(saya pernah baca 1 artikel yg ngebahas mobil cbu yg bilang begitu) ,seumpama benar dan 30 % saja dari pemakai yg model lama ganti ke model baru jumlahnya masih ribuan sob. :mrgreen:
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mungkin nama lain alphard ya bellefire ini kali ya? koq sama persis garis lekukan body nya?
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piterr wrote:mungkin nama lain alphard ya bellefire ini kali ya? koq sama persis garis lekukan body nya?
Pak Pitter mungkin maksud bapak Vellfire yah pak? Bukan Bellefire

Mobil nya memang basisnya sama pak, tetapi Alphard lebih mengutamakan Elegance and Refinement sedangkan Vellfire lebih ke Power and Innovation
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vellefire apakah berarti model sporty dari alphard ? mengingat biasanya selalu ada model sporty dari setiap model.
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Memang benar bro blindzero, seperti kata rinisumasdi kalau Alphard lebih ke elegan sedangkan Vellfire lebih ke sporty. Biasanya kalau model sporty cuma ditambahi spoiler add-on atau model bumper yang lebih sporty, sedangkan yang ini benar2 berbeda mulai dari model lampunya, bumpernya dan velgnya.

Gw sudah liat iklannya di beberapa media cetak mengenai Toyota Alphard dan Vellfire ini. Yang mau inden harus DP dulu sekarang, katanya kalau daftar inden udah panjang dapetnya tahun depan karena unitnya terbatas. Bahkan ada Alphard yang sudah diberi body kit Modellista. Keren bgt deh!
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rinisumasdi wrote:
piterr wrote:mungkin nama lain alphard ya bellefire ini kali ya? koq sama persis garis lekukan body nya?
Pak Pitter mungkin maksud bapak Vellfire yah pak? Bukan Bellefire

Mobil nya memang basisnya sama pak, tetapi Alphard lebih mengutamakan Elegance and Refinement sedangkan Vellfire lebih ke Power and Innovation
blindzero wrote:vellefire apakah berarti model sporty dari alphard ? mengingat biasanya selalu ada model sporty dari setiap model.
Hubungannya sebenernya, Toyota buat beberapa model punya kembarannya, bedanya, cuma dikonsep untuk siapa produk tersebut ditujukan.

Simplenya, Vellfire dan Alphard hubungannya seperti Voxy dan Noah..
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blindzero wrote:Menurut info sih TOYOTA BELLEFIRE bukan Alphard.

Untuk spesifikasi belum tahu.....
Kayaknya yg bener namanya tuh VELLFIRE bukan BELLEFIRE
Kebiasaan orang indonesia kalo nulis ama ngucap slalu di plesetin
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v4ldi5 wrote:
blindzero wrote:Menurut info sih TOYOTA BELLEFIRE bukan Alphard.

Untuk spesifikasi belum tahu.....
Kayaknya yg bener namanya tuh VELLFIRE bukan BELLEFIRE
Kebiasaan orang indonesia kalo nulis ama ngucap slalu di plesetin

HAHA, iya yang betul vellefire, bellefire itu dapet dari inet.... :beer:
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blindzero wrote:
v4ldi5 wrote:
blindzero wrote:Menurut info sih TOYOTA BELLEFIRE bukan Alphard.

Untuk spesifikasi belum tahu.....
Kayaknya yg bener namanya tuh VELLFIRE bukan BELLEFIRE
Kebiasaan orang indonesia kalo nulis ama ngucap slalu di plesetin

HAHA, iya yang betul vellefire, bellefire itu dapet dari inet.... :beer:
:e-naughty: VELLFIRE ah...bukan VELLEFIRE... :mrgreen:
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Hansen wrote:
blindzero wrote:
v4ldi5 wrote:
Kayaknya yg bener namanya tuh VELLFIRE bukan BELLEFIRE
Kebiasaan orang indonesia kalo nulis ama ngucap slalu di plesetin

HAHA, iya yang betul vellefire, bellefire itu dapet dari inet.... :beer:
:e-naughty: VELLFIRE ah...bukan VELLEFIRE... :mrgreen:
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blindzero wrote:
Hansen wrote:
blindzero wrote:
HAHA, iya yang betul vellefire, bellefire itu dapet dari inet.... :beer:
:e-naughty: VELLFIRE ah...bukan VELLEFIRE... :mrgreen:
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:mrgreen: jadi ketauan kalo............:e-silenced:
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Hansen wrote: :mrgreen: jadi ketauan kalo............:e-silenced:
kalo apa nih ? :shrug:

btw harganya gw liat di toyota kok sekitar 750 ya....................
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blindzero wrote:
Hansen wrote: :mrgreen: jadi ketauan kalo............:e-silenced:
kalo apa nih ? :shrug:

btw harganya gw liat di toyota kok sekitar 750 ya....................
hehehe... :mrgreen:

btw iya nih...koq mahal bgt yah? :shrug:
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