Problem SX4

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waduh mas ddaru... saya belum pernah pegang... hehehehe!

tapi coba baca2 disini ya : http://www.geocities.com/dsmgrrrl/FAQs/compression.htm
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jadi sx4 lebih tinggi kompresinya dari neo baleno yah Oom?
padahal naksir berat.. tapi kalo harus pertamax?? 8200 brur.. alamak..
yahwis pake aerio aja sambil nunggu sapa tauk ada casing sx4 di glodok, hehehe..
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bro, link tsb cuma untuk mengecek besar kompresi, bukan CR/ratio karena indikatornya hanya besar tekanan / psi; dimana untuk besar tekanan sama ternyata bisa beda CR nya seperti data tsb
Untuk mengetahui CR sederhana, sepeetinya harus dgn wet-test.

[quote="poeticmind"]waduh mas ddaru... saya belum pernah pegang... hehehehe!

tapi coba baca2 disini ya : http://www.geocities.com/dsmgrrrl/FAQs/compression.htm[/quote]
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Bro poetic saya udah ketikin panjang lebar tentang compression tester di page sebelum post bro poetic yang terakhir. kok nggak ada tanggapan sih hehehehehe just kidding bro!!!! :D
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Seluruh jajaran suzuki, dari Swift, SX4, neo baleno, Grand vitara, karimun, estilo, semuanya bisa minum premium. Komputernya udah di program supaya bisa minum bensin "butut"(premium)... tanang aja bro...
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naldo wrote:Seluruh jajaran suzuki, dari Swift, SX4, neo baleno, Grand vitara, karimun, estilo, semuanya bisa minum premium. Komputernya udah di program supaya bisa minum bensin "butut"(premium)... tanang aja bro...
asal yg tanpa timbal khan bro..?
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lonesnake wrote:Bro poetic saya udah ketikin panjang lebar tentang compression tester di page sebelum post bro poetic yang terakhir. kok nggak ada tanggapan sih hehehehehe just kidding bro!!!! :D
hahahaha! iya ya?! oke oke, saya salah nih...
thanks buat info nya...! hahaha, ojo ngamuk po'o mas... :D

@GTR : yeah, u rite.
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poeticmind wrote:
lonesnake wrote:Bro poetic saya udah ketikin panjang lebar tentang compression tester di page sebelum post bro poetic yang terakhir. kok nggak ada tanggapan sih hehehehehe just kidding bro!!!! :D
hahahaha! iya ya?! oke oke, saya salah nih...
thanks buat info nya...! hahaha, ojo ngamuk po'o mas... :D

@GTR : yeah, u rite.
Gak ngamuk bro hehehehehe :D cuman kok tumben nggak ada tanggapan, anyway let's forget about it!!!!! :e-clap:

Peace Bro :beer:
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naldo wrote:Bro vega, asal gasnya gede, kopling yang grudak gruduk itu juga tidak berasa koq. Semestinya yang sudah terbiasa juga sudah tidak menjadi masalah lagi... Sudah pernah saya bahas dulu2 disini... Pokoknya 1500-2000RPM mobil ga akan ada apa2 untuk yang manual
ndak bro, ndak bisa gitu, tetep aja masalah gigi satu merupakan PR buat suzuki, ini kalo mereka peduli..... buktinya di swift gak masalah, meskipun rpm dip ampe 400 rpm gak geter koq mesinnya...... PASTI ini masalah setting ECU, dan kayaknya udah gak kejadian di neo baleno tuh..... entah lah apakah sebentar lagi ada recall buat sx4 manual..... yang jelas beres tak kejar kejar terus nih masalah ini...... dan mereka kebingungan gak bisa kasih jawaban
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vega wrote:iya skrg udah kebiasa kok, tp pas bokap pake gruduk2 coz bokap blum tau tips & trik nya..
tips and trick hanya untuk ngakalin aja supaya gak kejadian gladak gluduk bro...... tapi sebenarnya ini masalah yang harus ada solusi tuntas dr segi settingan atau desain power mesin, kalo terus terusan pake rpm agak tinggi saat start kopling nya akan lebih cepet habis doonk
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vega wrote:oya pernah pas berhenti kok di daerah mesin depan bau kopling ataw kampas rem, mirip bau angus gitu deh.. padahal gw bawa mobilnya normal2 aja trus ga pernah rem ngedadak.. apa ini normal buat mobil baru?
Mungkin nggak bau2an ini akibat dari RPM tinggi waktu start?
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hmm ga tau yah bro.. bau-bauan itu cuma sekali aja pas pertama kali mobil dibawa jalan2 keliling kota pas pulang dari dealer.. sampe skrg udah ga bau lg kok..

yah mungkin sebaiknya ada harus penyelesaian win-win solution dari suzuki.. sebaiknya pihak suzuki tidak tinggal diam aja dan cepat menyikapi masalah ini.. semoga..
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ada yg udah baca majalah mobilmotor kira2 bulan yang lalu blon??
disitu dibahas katanya ntar bakalan swift ada optional paket turbo
Rp. 40 jutaan (+ suspensi yg bisa diatus tingkat kekerasannya)

ada yg punya pengalaman pasang turbo untuk mesin swift????
katanya si bar nya naik 0,5, HP sampe 180!!
kalo liat speknya si syeremmm, kenceng banget
tapi apa mungkin ya???

kalo dah pasang turbo tapi minumnya premium kira2 hasilnya gimana ya??? hehehe
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Ga bisa bro... Swift turbo or mesin M15A pke turbo, itu harus minum P+, or setidaknya Pertamax dengan kasih aditif pembersih injector... Itu si palingan...
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Masalah gigi 1 ini kena juga gak sih di versi matic-nya? Gw sih baca2 di depan yang matic gak kena, tapi kalau iya serem juga... Ada yang pake SX4 matic?
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Matic ga kenapa2.. Saya juga ga ngerti kl yang manual... For me, manual or matic ga masalah... Sama2 enak but manual lebih kenceng...
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nyaman matic, bro... emang lebih kenceng manual... but di rpm tengah sama aja... kekejer juga yg manual. hehehe! (hasil test drive 2 mobil bareng temen...).
kalo soal di tol sih, toh... siapa yg mau manteng di 160 terus...hehe! cukup di 120-140 rasanya.
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Arti kenceng tu apa si? Saya dah coba manual ma matiknya sama2 kenceng kok, cuma kalo manual akselerasinya bisa lebih cepet dari matiknya (ya iyalah?!), tapi baik manual maupun matik bisa2 aja diajak lari diatas 150kmpj, sama2 kenceng khan?
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Kencang itu di definisikan adalah dimana akselerasi mobil itu semakin cepat, dengan waktu yang juga cepat... Kl sama2 lari 160 ya bisa... Tapi untuk mecapai 160nya itu, yang paling cepet, itu yang disebut kenceng.. Kl buat gw si mobil di katakan kencang tuh kl mobil2 seperti EvoX n GTR... pengen pinjem EvoX ni... hohoho
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mobil kenceng biasanya bikin jantung qta kenceng juga pas isi bensin.. :upss:
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Wah kalo saya kencang Nissan GTR standart aja 3.5 second 0-100km/h.. Kayaknya supercar paling cepat di jepang(standar lo)..he2.
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Bro saya ga habis pikir orang mobil lain aja ga sampai speck down CR biar bisa minum premium eh SX4 sama swift CR nya diturunin sampe 9.0 : 1 ... Ex : City VTEC CR 10.1 : 1 bisa minum premium tanpa turunin kompresi dan ga ada knocking sama sekali selama saya pakai ni mobil.. Kalo pengen 110 PS ya ganti pertamax beres kan..
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hehehehe yakin kalo city vtec masih di kompresi 10.2? hehehehehe
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kalo gitu xeniavanza apa masih di 11:1 ???
tidak melulu, CR ratio (& knock sensor) mobil korelasi langsung ke "knocking"; masih ada faktor engineering lain deh dimana menjadi rahasia masing2 pabrikan.
seperti design ruang bakar dan stoichiometris SAAT terjadi combustion itu sendiri (bukan sekedar stoichiometris saat pasokan).
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xenia-avanza dll yang bilang CR 1:10-1:11 or more, bilang bisa isi bensin premium, saya rasa itu hanya advertisement belaka... Banyak pabrikan mobil jepang di indo, buku manualnya pke spec jepang. Padahal spec indo di bedain... Tau CR tinggi ato rendah, untuk akuratnya mesti di ukur yang biasanya di tukang bubut. Orang mobil germany aja, kompresi 1:10, udah nyuruh gw beli pertamax plus(minimum, minta RON 98, mobil kenangan gw), apa masih kurang percaya ma pabrikan german??