[ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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[ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Bro2 semua, gw mau tanya dong... sbelumnya maap kalo udah ada, tapi udah gw browse sampe blakang2 blum ada thread yg ngebandingin 2 mobil ini.

Gini, gw mo ada rencana beli mobil, dan dengan dana maks 50jt-an pilihan gw (baru) ada 2:
- Mitsubishi Galant V6 '94 ato '95
- Honda Cielo '95

Maunya sih yang matic, yah taulah kondisi jalanan skarang gimana...

Jadi intinya, diantara 2 pilihan itu bagusan yang mana bro? Maksudnya dari segi pemakaian (nyaman, aman, bensin, speed...) , maintenance dll?

Buat bantu ngasih saran ke gw, kondisi gw skarang:
- rumah ke kantor cukup deket (pulang pergi 15km), itupun seringnya naik motor kecuali hujan deres banget
- karakter nyetir tergantung mood, kl pingin nyantai ya santai, kalo pingin cepet ya 'hajar bleh'... apalagi kalo pake motor, kebetulan punya motor jenis sport jadi mendukung karakter gw
- pinginnya yg bisa buat modif jugalah walopun dikit2
- umur 27 (ngaruh gak sih????)

Ato ada saran mobil lain? Ato ada yg mau ngejual mobilnya ke gw?

Thanks in advance
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Kalo cm diantara 2 itu kayaknya gw lebih condong ke cielo karena:
- lebih irit (mesin 4 silinder dibanding galant yg V6 kecuali galant VR yg "banci")
- model menurut saya lebih abadi....masih lumayan di umurnya yg lebih dari 13 tahun (kalo soal ini tergantung selera)
- saya gak pernah pake mitsu, tapi rumor bilang spare part mitsu jauh lebih mahal dari honda dan juga untuk varian galant agak sedikit manja (baca: rewel) terlebih lagi kalo umur udah 13-14thn.
- IMO, kalo jual lagi lebih susah galant (bukan resale value ya karena dua2nya juga udah jato)
- atpm mitsu di indonesia agak2 kurang komitmennya, takutnya di masa depan ada kelangkaan spare part

Keunggulan galant:
- lebih kenceng :D tapi untuk tahun segitu, kenceng2 juga ngeri karena parts2 yg lain takutnya udah gak mendukung untuk ngebut terutama sektor kaki2.
- lebih murah: walaupun V6, untuk uang yg sama, bisa dapet 1-2 tahun lebih muda dari cielo.

Tapi kalo gw pribadi mao beli mobil sedan dengan budget 50 juta, gw akan ambil great corolla 94-95 atau soluna xli '00 karena Untuk budget segitu, gw lebih prefer mobil yg reliable dan gak bikin kantong jebol kecuali kalo hati udah mentok sama galant/cielo ......nah kalo itu susah :D
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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karakter produk di usia ini banyak luntur oleh ausnya parts.
untuk mobil usia segini better cari yg reputasi FC dan reliabilitynya lebih baik, untuk menghindari tingginya cost dan waktu yg tersita utk repair.
pribadi, sama seperti risol1 : soluna Xli '00
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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knp gak baleno aja..sorry OOT..soalnya baleno kan dpt thn lbh muda, model masih lumayan, reliability jg not bad (katanya), spare part juga gak luar biasa mahal and..masih bisa dimodif..

kl soal Cielo gak bisa komen banyak..kecuali accord itu memang nyaman dikendarai biarpun udh thn tua..soal spare part kurang tau persis sih..

kl Mitsu..saya pernah pk Eterna, yg konstruksi kaki2 masih mirip sama Gallant 94-97 awal, cuma ya itu..spare part sedan mitsubishi lawas (gak tau kl yg baru ) memang "lumayan", dan masalah di kaki2 katanya memang sering muncul (spt ball joint, tie rod, arm, shock breaker, etc)..dan please note..harganya gak ada yg murah (IMHO)..
juga CMIIW..krn sedan Mitsu rata2 dibuat utk lari kencang, gak tau knp kyknya temperatur di ruang mesin cenderun lbh panas akibatnya seal2, atau bagian2 yg terbuat dr karet di sana lbh cepat aus..
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Cocoknya CIELO vs Evo 3 tuh.
Galant vs Accord aja kali.
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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emang kalo soluna '00 dan baleno pasarannya brapa ya?
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Cocoknya CIELO vs Evo 3 tuh.
Galant vs Accord aja kali.

waduh ......kan sama ja...accord ma cielo.....artinya accord cielo... :ungg:
saran gw mending pilih celio ja banyak pars kwnya....dibanding ma galant....
klo mo yang versi irit bisa pilih genio, soluna ato lancer......lagian ne mobil mudah dijual balik klo butuh duit
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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plasworld88 wrote:knp gak baleno aja..sorry OOT..soalnya baleno kan dpt thn lbh muda, model masih lumayan, reliability jg not bad (katanya), spare part juga gak luar biasa mahal and..masih bisa dimodif....
IMO, untuk budget 50 jt, baleno dapetnya juga tahun tua (sekitar 96 sukur2 97) :D
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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soluna masih di 60jtan...

kalo saya pilih corona absolut 97 AT. sekitar 50-55jt kalo ga salah...
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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60 an yg GLi, soluna yg Xli cuma 50jt an (kecil) bro.
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Berdasarkan info dari bro Kawiki :
A/T Transmission : Accord Cielo. Galant klo gw pribadi prefer ke M/T
Maintenance : 50-50. Mitsu meskipun mahal tetapi terkompensasi dgn durability
note : Galant Paus (alias Lele) ringkih di sektor kaki2, which is the same way happened with Honda.
Sporty : Galant
Modif : Dua-duanya oke. Cielo memiliki kecenderungan elegant, dan Galant ke arah racing.
Speed : Bisa subjektif nih klo ini, hehehe.... Sebagai ilustrasi, Cielo dgn budget segitu dapet yg non-VTec, 4 silinder, 2.2cc (CMIIW for the capacity...). Sedangkan Galant dapet yg DOHC, 6 silinder, 2.0cc.

Dengan budget 50jt, lumayan banyak pilihan kok, bro. Untuk medium sedan, seperti yg dibilang bro Poeticmind, ada Corabs.
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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kalo mazda cronos gimana bro? kalo dari segi bentuk lumayan keren juga, tapi performa dll?
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Performance Cronos secara teori sih mantap, karena yg V6-nya 2.5cc dan DOHC, Galant pun tewas... :P .Cronos ada 2 jenis, 2.0cc 4 silinder dan 2.5cc 6 silinder.
Klo masalah lain gw kurang begitu paham, komunitasnya sedikit, jadi infonya pun sedikit. Sodaranya Cronos, yaitu Familia, punya tmn gw bermasalah dgn kaki2.
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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durabilitynya mesin mazda malah kurang dibanding keduanya.
cielo '95 2200cc SOHC non-vtec, kecuali tahun 96-up.
kalo pilih a/t, sepertinya A/T nya lebih bandel cielo daripada galant.
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@hikoza : gue minim nih info cronos... utk yg 2.5 FCnya brp bro? soalnya temen bilang ini mobil asik banget... perfoma sih ga usah diragukan... tapi kalo familia rasanya utk unit 2nd agak tanggung nih...

@GTR : A/T V6 lebih responsif tapi kan, rasanya... :)
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Risol1 wrote:
plasworld88 wrote:knp gak baleno aja..sorry OOT..soalnya baleno kan dpt thn lbh muda, model masih lumayan, reliability jg not bad (katanya), spare part juga gak luar biasa mahal and..masih bisa dimodif....
IMO, untuk budget 50 jt, baleno dapetnya juga tahun tua (sekitar 96 sukur2 97) :D
kan..96/97 ttp lbh muda dr 94/95 bro..(ngeles mode ON) :D

Mazda Cronos? bukannya spare part Mazda lbh mahal lagi?
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a/t mitsu memang responsif, tapi sepertinya lebih fragile daripada a/t cielo.
cronos v6 agak fragile di HLA (Hydrolic Lash Adjuster) utk valve maybe karena penggunaan spec oli tidak sesuai, kalo cari 2nd harus perhatikan ini.
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Galant V6. Tampilannya sangar. Dia nggak usah ngedim aja gw ikhlas minggir kiri... :D
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performanya tidak beda jauh dgn eterna deh
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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@Poeticmind
Pastinya gw sendiri kurang tau, bro. Duluuu banget, ada temen yg pake, tapi ga sempet tanya2.
Kemungkinan sih ga jauh beda dgn Galant ST, yang meskipun SOHC, tapi sama-sama 2.5cc. Galant ST average FC-nya 1:6 (combine dalkot dan luar kota).

@Plasworld
Sepertinya spareparts Mazda bukan mahal, tapi sangat susah diperoleh. A.f.a.i.k, spareparts kalau sama-sama ori, beti alias beda tipis, coba deh dicompare... ;)

@kawiki
Yg udah jadi rahasia umum dari Galant Paus adalah kaki-kakinya ga sekuat sodara2nya yg lain. Cielo juga mengalami hal yang sama.
Terus udah pernah liat engine Galant V6 under the hood? Klo gw pribadi beranggapan (cuma anggapan , karena blom pernah punya) dgn gelondongan engine segede itu pasti agak2 ribet untuk maintenance.

@uch
Klo gw, ladenin dulu, klo kalah kan bisa nge-les," Wajar..., lawannya Galant." hehehe.... :P
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bantingan & low-rpm power pick-up lebih enak di galant.
cielo berat di low-rpm/speed, final gear kecil juga, interior lebih lega dan modern.
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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Klo interior, IMHO lebih modern Galant, eg : panel AC digital.
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modern a/c nya aja, tapi looksnya/ modelnya agak ketinggalan dibanding cielo.
nah, ini juga hati2 kalo rusak.
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Re: [ASK] Galant V6 versus Cielo

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interior preference lah, kadang ada yg suka simple, high tech, ribet, and so on...

yg paling penting, karena ini nyari 2nd... perhatikan saja apa2 yg harus diganti. dengan budget 50jt itu apa sudah termasuk servis ulang dan merapikan unit nya...
jika belum, artinya... budget 50jt itu dipotong sekitar 10jt. mobil 2nd yg dicari ada di kisaran 40jt.

so, ada baiknya dihitung... soalnya banyak pengalaman, ujung2nya budget segitu membengkak...
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Hikoza wrote:Berdasarkan info dari bro Kawiki :
A/T Transmission : Accord Cielo. Galant klo gw pribadi prefer ke M/T
Maintenance : 50-50. Mitsu meskipun mahal tetapi terkompensasi dgn durability
note : Galant Paus (alias Lele) ringkih di sektor kaki2, which is the same way happened with Honda.
Sporty : Galant
Modif : Dua-duanya oke. Cielo memiliki kecenderungan elegant, dan Galant ke arah racing.
Speed : Bisa subjektif nih klo ini, hehehe.... Sebagai ilustrasi, Cielo dgn budget segitu dapet yg non-VTec, 4 silinder, 2.2cc (CMIIW for the capacity...). Sedangkan Galant dapet yg DOHC, 6 silinder, 2.0cc.

Dengan budget 50jt, lumayan banyak pilihan kok, bro. Untuk medium sedan, seperti yg dibilang bro Poeticmind, ada Corabs.
klo galant ma cielo dari dulu udah diciptain buat kenyamanan....buat elegan.....klo buat speed ma sporty bisa milih lancer glxi ato civic genio.... :thanks:
klo cronos......canggih buanget deh....tapi harus di bayar dengan perawatan yang mahal