ga papa bos, tergantung bawaan orok, kl boil enk dikasi premium aj enk kok. crv ane 2006 dr baru pake premium g pernah nyenth pertamax apalg plus, so far so good.b3ny wrote:numpang tanya....kalo crv 2.0 2004 di isi premium ga pa2 ya?
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masih perlu dipertanyakan nih;
yg dimaksud oktan di indo adalah RON.
kalo diluar sepertinya "oktan kombinasi" : (RON+MON)/2.
dimana angka MON biasanya lebih rendah dari MON, otomatis "oktan kombinasi" di US bisa jadi lebih tinggi dari "oktan" indo (CMIIW)
[quote="Risol1"]di US aja bensin cuma ada 3 grade: oktan 87, 89 dan 92/93....masih bagusan indo lah secara pertamax aja udah 92 apalagi pertaplus 95/96 CMIIW
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yg dimaksud oktan di indo adalah RON.
kalo diluar sepertinya "oktan kombinasi" : (RON+MON)/2.
dimana angka MON biasanya lebih rendah dari MON, otomatis "oktan kombinasi" di US bisa jadi lebih tinggi dari "oktan" indo (CMIIW)
[quote="Risol1"]di US aja bensin cuma ada 3 grade: oktan 87, 89 dan 92/93....masih bagusan indo lah secara pertamax aja udah 92 apalagi pertaplus 95/96 CMIIW

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oooo....gitu yah...hahahahah
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teorinya sih gitu sob. tapi apa bener klo perta+ RON nya 95??GTR wrote:masih perlu dipertanyakan nih;
yg dimaksud oktan di indo adalah RON.
kalo diluar sepertinya "oktan kombinasi" : (RON+MON)/2.
dimana angka MON biasanya lebih rendah dari MON, otomatis "oktan kombinasi" di US bisa jadi lebih tinggi dari "oktan" indo (CMIIW)
Risol1 wrote:di US aja bensin cuma ada 3 grade: oktan 87, 89 dan 92/93....masih bagusan indo lah secara pertamax aja udah 92 apalagi pertaplus 95/96 CMIIW
ada info dr atpm yg yg cukup bs dipercaya. klo mereka survey perta+ RONnya ternyata rata2 90-92 aja.
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ga mungkin pas 95..pst krg dikit la..huh?? info dr atpm mana?? bisa beberkan lbh jelas??? ko beda ron nya jauh bgt??
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di US mentoknya 93?? di singapura bknnya dah ron 95 and 98 ya??
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ah,,binun jg,.hehehehe...tapi yg pasti, atpm sekelas toyota aza kelenger2 gara2 kualitas solar di sini (sama2 bbm subsidi), jadi bensin mnrt asumsi saya sih ga pas2 bgt lhar RON nya..CMIIW:)
oiya, bang naldo, mana photo2nya?hehehehe
oiya, bang naldo, mana photo2nya?hehehehe
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om poetic ilank super ap?? superman pa supermi??hehehe...premix bknnya premium TT biasa??
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smua atpm juga klenger2 kl mo kluarin mobil diesel di sini ma..spec solar ny ancur bgt..kcuali si PiNtHeR yang make diesel jadul yg gtrannya mantep and bisa minum solar racun..
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oh iya, jadinya kalo bensin regular di US (oktan 87) artinya sekelas dengan pertamax gitu ya (RON 91-92an)?GTR wrote:masih perlu dipertanyakan nih;
yg dimaksud oktan di indo adalah RON.
kalo diluar sepertinya "oktan kombinasi" : (RON+MON)/2.
dimana angka MON biasanya lebih rendah dari MON, otomatis "oktan kombinasi" di US bisa jadi lebih tinggi dari "oktan" indo (CMIIW)
Pantesan mbl V6 pake regular gak ngelitik dan juga kayaknya tenaga engga berkurang

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Nih referensi tentang RON/MON di Canada or US (juga rating2 lain):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
Paling tinggi di JDM, ada oktan "100", mknya ada bbrp model beda spec dan hanya beredar di JDM, seperti: Integra TypeR JDM "1998"=200hp, dan S2000 JDM = 250hp, diluar itu tenaganya agak dikurangi, even USDM.
Intersting is, di indo (like most countries) sepertinya rating hanya RON-based saja, makanya unlike di luar negeri (JDM/US/Canada) angka FC sangat jauh dari spec pabrikan.
In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States, Canada and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91-92 in Europe. However most European pumps deliver 95 (RON) as "regular", equivalent to 90-91 US (R+M)/2, and even deliver 98 (RON) or 100 (RON).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
Paling tinggi di JDM, ada oktan "100", mknya ada bbrp model beda spec dan hanya beredar di JDM, seperti: Integra TypeR JDM "1998"=200hp, dan S2000 JDM = 250hp, diluar itu tenaganya agak dikurangi, even USDM.
Intersting is, di indo (like most countries) sepertinya rating hanya RON-based saja, makanya unlike di luar negeri (JDM/US/Canada) angka FC sangat jauh dari spec pabrikan.
In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States, Canada and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91-92 in Europe. However most European pumps deliver 95 (RON) as "regular", equivalent to 90-91 US (R+M)/2, and even deliver 98 (RON) or 100 (RON).
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bisa jadi, "super" di indo jaman dulu itu murni oktan98 (kombinasi RON & MON) since masih ada bbrp ATPM 'berani' pasarkan tipe turbo seperti : Charade turbo dan Fiat Uno turbo.
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Pantes aja dulu pke gallant 1995, kenceng banget. Setiap x isi premix. Super TT dulu hanya se oktan premium y? Premix di atas 95. Dulu harga bensin murah banget, sekarang meroket... ga beres...
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lebih efek jaman2 masih pakai "Super 98" (bukan "Super TT" loh) sebelum akhirnya digantikan dengan "Premix".
saat itu premium masih Rp350/liter
saat itu premium masih Rp350/liter
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itulah kenapa saya kehilangan super... bukan hanya alesan oktan, tapi mesin saya bersih dan sehat. meskipun lebih mahal dari premium tapi harga masih terjangkau... ya memang masih ada subsidi pada waktu itu...
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siap!..back to CR-V..jadi kesimpulannya...tetep ga cocok minum premium yah?hehehehe
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kalo yang gen 2 sih masih di rekomen premium deh ama hpm nya..
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saya rasa tidak, honda rata2 semua keluaran baru ratio kompresi nya diatas 9:1 (premium sampai 9:1), jadi pertamax dan pertamax plus...
koreksi saya, CRV dari dulu sampai yg sekarang kompresinya 9,7:1.
direkomen oleh hpm, artinya bisa saja pake premium... sama seperti NextG saya dulu, oleh suzuki direkomen pake premium... tetapi setelah saya cari tau ternyata NextG kompresinya 9,5:1 . ini artinya pertamax.
walah, ngaco nih suzuki...
@zombiEE : bukan tidak cocok, tapi seperti pembahasan kita diatas dan di thread2 sebelah lain nya... terserah kita mau memakai yg mana, tapi asal kita tau sebenarnya brp kompresi mobil kita... dan jenis bbm mana sebaiknya.
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koreksi saya, CRV dari dulu sampai yg sekarang kompresinya 9,7:1.
direkomen oleh hpm, artinya bisa saja pake premium... sama seperti NextG saya dulu, oleh suzuki direkomen pake premium... tetapi setelah saya cari tau ternyata NextG kompresinya 9,5:1 . ini artinya pertamax.
walah, ngaco nih suzuki...
@zombiEE : bukan tidak cocok, tapi seperti pembahasan kita diatas dan di thread2 sebelah lain nya... terserah kita mau memakai yg mana, tapi asal kita tau sebenarnya brp kompresi mobil kita... dan jenis bbm mana sebaiknya.
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xeniavanza/sirion, bahan bakar premium padahal CR 11:1 !!!
tapi memang most mobil saat ini >10:1.
tapi memang most mobil saat ini >10:1.
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Bagus2 aja larinya Avanza pake premium...pernah make mobil sewaan. Yah...basic transportation lah, tapi seru juga di ajak kelok2 jalanan Bali...
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wah kalo menurut saya, bantingan crv cukup enak karena sebelumnya saya pakai terrano (ya iyalah..) tp kalau dibandingkan sama x-trail, masih lebih enak x-trail.. kalau untuk handling, menurut saya masih lebih enak crv..
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jimbaran to singaraja, naek avanza bolehlah... ngekorin CRV ga ketinggalan tuh di tanjakan belok2 nya...FortunerMan wrote:Bagus2 aja larinya Avanza pake premium...pernah make mobil sewaan. Yah...basic transportation lah, tapi seru juga di ajak kelok2 jalanan Bali...


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tapi matic nya avz lemot banget.