Problem SX4

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Honda bukannya "G-CON" itu yah..
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naldo wrote:Gw juga ga ngerti d bos apa hubungannya. Yang pasti ECU-nya ga bisa di aplikasikan di aerio/next G atau di tuker2 gitu. Udah beda total...
mungkin karena beda feature? kalo dipindah ECU-nya jadi bingung... :)
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GTR wrote:Honda bukannya "G-CON" itu yah..
G-CON itu awalnya, sekarang namanya ACE. Teknologi G-CON itu fungsinya untuk menyebarkan energi tumbukan yang terjadi karena tabrakan keseluruh area depan mobil. Akan tetapi, G-CON itu tidak memperhitungkan bentuk dari sang mobil. Jadinya, kalau Honda Pilot nabrak Honda Jazz, udah pasti lumat Jazz-nya meskipun dua2nya pake G-CON (Pilot itu segede Land Cruiser Prado). Setelah implementasi ACE, fungsi penyebar tumbukan sekarang memperhitungkan ukuran mobil yang ditabrak. Ini karena struktur tumbukan depan didesain sedemikian rupa untuk hancur sesuai tinggi rendah kendaraan yang dihajar. Jadinya setelah Jazz pake ACE dan Pilot pake ACE, kalau dua-duanya tabrakan yang nyetir Jazz selamat.

ACE baru diterapin di Odyssey (amrik), Civic, dan CR-V. Menyusul semua mobil Honda... Gak tau Accord dan Fit baru udah pake belon.

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poeticmind wrote:
Shaqilla wrote:Ada yg tauk harga Stock ECUnya SX4ndak? denger2 diset jago hi rev.. sapa tau bisa tt sama ECUstocknya Aerio, hehehe..
ooooh bisa ya?! tinggal swap aja gitu? hmmm...
gak bisa di swap gitu aja boss. immobiliser nya gak mau kerja. mesin gak mau nyala ntar. sx4 gw ada problem mesin getar saat stasioner, sama beress di swap ECU nya neo baleno. gak mau jalan tuh. immobilizer nya ada di ECU soalnya, gak mau hidupin mesin. hehehehe
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Midi_Amp wrote:Untuk SX4 dan Swift, Suzuki balik ke torsion beam untuk suspensi belakang... Murah meriah kali ya. Tapi suspensi ini gak jelek2 amet kok, kegunaannya untuk menghemat tempat, jadi ruang kabin lebih lega. Karena SX4 sedan satu platform dengan SX4 hatch, suspensinya juga sama deh.
New Altis aja balik ke Torsion beam.... halaah kasian banget yaks.......

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piterr wrote:
poeticmind wrote:
Shaqilla wrote:Ada yg tauk harga Stock ECUnya SX4ndak? denger2 diset jago hi rev.. sapa tau bisa tt sama ECUstocknya Aerio, hehehe..
ooooh bisa ya?! tinggal swap aja gitu? hmmm...
gak bisa di swap gitu aja boss. immobiliser nya gak mau kerja. mesin gak mau nyala ntar. sx4 gw ada problem mesin getar saat stasioner, sama beress di swap ECU nya neo baleno. gak mau jalan tuh. immobilizer nya ada di ECU soalnya, gak mau hidupin mesin. hehehehe
nah i thought so... :P
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gak bisa di swap gitu aja boss. immobiliser nya gak mau kerja. mesin gak mau nyala ntar. sx4 gw ada problem mesin getar saat stasioner, sama beress di swap ECU nya neo baleno. gak mau jalan tuh. immobilizer nya ada di ECU soalnya, gak mau hidupin mesin. hehehehe[/quote]

nah i thought so... :P[/quote]


eh iya bos.. ampun deh.. gak pengen nyoba2 kok.. lagipula.. enakan speknya aerio, hueheheh...
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NVH nya jauh lebih unggul M15a sx4/neo drpd aerio.
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saya dah pake Dastek.. udah enak kok.. so far cukup lah untuk klenong-klenong di dalem kota...
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piterr wrote: New Altis aja balik ke Torsion beam.... halaah kasian banget yaks.......

*semoga salah spek, sumber dr autobild*
Gak salah bos, bisa keliatan kok dari luar, apalagi Altis yang pantatnya tinggi. Gw sekali pernah liat lagi turunan di gedung parkir salah satu mal... Kok Altis pake torsion beam ya, bukannya torsion beam identik dengan mobil murah? Ternyata misinformasi aja, Civic Euro aja juga pake, jadi ya wajar lah.
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Honda CRV 2nd generation Independence tetapi tetap saja suspensinya tidak enak. GL pake torsion beam tapi suspensinya enak banget. Jadi independence belum tentu bagus.... IMHO
Saatnya konsumer lebih kritis.....beli sesuai dengan hati nurani...biarpun bermerek tapi mahal tidak sesuai harga.....dan jangan pernah dibohongin dengan alasan2 yang aneh lagi.....go konsumer Indonesia
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duh.. akhirnya SX4 sunset cooper udah nongkrong di garasi dari kmaren..
overall puas deh, kata salesnya SX4 gw terakhir yg CBU coz untuk pemesanan selanjut udah pasti dikasih yg CKD..
kerasa sieh masalah gruduk-gruduk pas mo maju itu, itu udah tau dari SM ini.. asal feeling nya pas gruduk2 nya ga keluar kok, tp yah klo ga pas gruduk2 lg..

oya numpang nanya yah, klo CD mp3 tuh ngerusak player ga sieh klo didiemin aja di dalem player nya..?
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wah congratulation bro...!

mp3? ga lah... ga ada hubungan nya... ngerusak gimana ya? kalo di off kan mati, player ga jalan... :D
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slamet bro dpt last shipping..hehe..ga bkl ngerusak lah kl cd mangkreng di dlm..
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oke deh.. thanks ya bro.. :thanks:
soalnya lagu2 yg gw suka udah gw kumpulin di 1 CD, jd CD itu nongkrong trus didalem playernya.. takutnya bikin lemah optik ataw apalah.. :D oya klo baca dimanual book nya tuh player ga bisa baca CD-R atau CD-RW.. tp gw pake CD-RW bisa aja tuh.. untuk jangka panjang ada efek buruk ga yah..?
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Beli manual bos vega? Gradak gruduk apanya ni?
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ga ada lah om..saya jg burn music di CD-R ma CD-RW tapi ga knp2 sampe skrg..cm kalo CD-RW itu lbh tbl dikit dari CD-R jadi kadang ad juga player yg ga bisa bca..
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naldo wrote:Beli manual bos vega? Gradak gruduk apanya ni?
maksudnya, ndut2an mungkin do... sama masalahnya dengan yg gue tanyain utk thread neo baleno... sewaktu di gas di RPM bawah ndut2an...
any reason, why? bisa ditune lagi agar masalah nya hilang?
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poeticmind wrote: maksudnya, ndut2an mungkin do... sama masalahnya dengan yg gue tanyain utk thread neo baleno... sewaktu di gas di RPM bawah ndut2an...
any reason, why? bisa ditune lagi agar masalah nya hilang?
Sama dong kayak SX4 manual?
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bukan tersendat(ndut2an) kali ya tapi yg ada, bunyi gemeretak(gruduk) dari area drivetrain pada most sx4 dan neo m/t saat pick-up smooth start dari berhenti.
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katanya ndut2an juga bro GTR...

iya, bro Midi_Amp... ke 2 unit itu... kan based nya sama2 SX4 sebenernya... sedan dan hatch. duh... maksa banget sih pake nama baleno... :D
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iya juga maybe, gejala gruduk itu terasa kalo kita tes jalankan mobil dari berhenti dgn gas sedikit saja sampai rpm turun natural ke 600-700 karena kopling mulai masuk (1/2 kopling menuju full release dan melaju normal), dimana umumnya tidak ditemukan gejala ini.

Apa ndut2an nya sampai separah xeniavanza? sepertinya belum ya, dan masih "ndut2an normal" utk mesin kecil dgn EFI.
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lebih ngeri bunyi gruduk2 gt d drpd endut-endutan..
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vega wrote: oya numpang nanya yah, klo CD mp3 tuh ngerusak player ga sieh klo didiemin aja di dalem player nya..?
secara langsung mungkin ngga, tapi kalo ada cd yang didalem sementara mobil kepanasan resiko cd melengkung besar, apalagi kalo pake cd blank yang murah.... malah lebih aman saat cassete didalam tape karena di beberapa merk tape, head dan roller langsung naik, tidak contact dengan cassete sebagai bagian dari pengaman player tersebut... tapi kalo CD, player masih menggenggam cd nya baik itu saat nyala ato pun mati... jadi baiknya sih dikeluarin aja cd saat mobil diparkir di bawah terik matahari....
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GTR wrote:iya juga maybe, gejala gruduk itu terasa kalo kita tes jalankan mobil dari berhenti dgn gas sedikit saja sampai rpm turun natural ke 600-700 karena kopling mulai masuk (1/2 kopling menuju full release dan melaju normal), dimana umumnya tidak ditemukan gejala ini.

Apa ndut2an nya sampai separah xeniavanza? sepertinya belum ya, dan masih "ndut2an normal" utk mesin kecil dgn EFI.
tidak separah Xe-Avz sih, itu pun ditune sedikit hilang kok bro... tapi utk SX4 ini terjadi rata2 pada manual, katanya lho... saya belum pernah ngerasain yg manual... hehe

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