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How Reliable is Your Car?
Jikalau ente sering keluar masuk bengkel membetulkan mobil ente, bisa jadi itu bukan kesalahan ente dalam men-maintain mobil ente, melainkan bisa jadi karena merek mobil ente itu sudah mengalami keperosotan kualitas. Jangan heran bila mobil tetangga ente yg termasuk dalam kategori "economy car" itu ternyata malah jauh lebih reliable daripada Mercedes ente.
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Seperti dapat dilihat disini, mercedes yg diagung-agungkan laksana mobil dewa itu ternyata kualitasnya malah sangat buruk dan rendah dibandingkan dengan mobil-mobil Jepang dan mobil Amerika. Bahkan sebenarnya hasil survey consumer reports tahun 2004 ini menunjukkan bahwa kualitas Hyundai diatas Mercedes, kualitas Hyundai untuk 2004 setara/seimbang dengan Honda.
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Luxury-Brand Cars Aren't Always Reliable
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Luxury-Brand Cars Aren't Always Reliable
Many New Models Have Electrical Problems, Survey Reveals
POSTED: 2:37 p.m. EDT May 29, 2003
CLEVELAND -- Auto manufacturers are rolling more reliable cars off the assembly lines.
But Troubleshooter Chris Caswell reported there are some luxury nameplates out there that might have more problems than many people think.
Consumer Reports ranked several cars according to reliability.
The owner of a 2001 Mercedes-Benz is very happy with her car, except for one thing.
Since Lisa Moeller bought it, her Mercedes has been in and out of the repair shop with a mysterious electrical defect.
"We do bring it back to the dealer and they, you know, do their thing and then eventually tell me something else is wrong," she said.
Consumer Reports' latest survey of $3.5 million of its subscribers shows many of the newer Mercedes-Benz models have electrical problems.
"It may be that they've got more electrical features on there, trying to get more of the new technology in there," said David Champion, of Consumer Reports "But it seems to be causing problems."
Besides electrical problems, the Mercedes M-class sport utility vehicle also has some problems with power equipment, such as windows and door locks and with squeaks and rattles.
By contrast, the survey shows Korean Hyundais -- once notoriously unreliable -- have gotten much better.
"In the last few years we've seen some very good products come from Hyundai and their reliability has increased so much that, in the 2002 model years, they actually tied second place with Honda," Champion said.
The owner of a 3-year-old Hyundai Sonata said he's only had to bring his car up to the shop for tune-ups.
"I just bring it in for normal maintenance and I haven't had a problem with it yet," Climmie Royal said.
The Consumer Reports survey showed that, overall, Asian cars are the most reliable. Also, American-made vehicles have improved to the point where they are now on par with European brands.
Consumer Reports said some American vehicles with improved reliability are newer model Chevrolet Silverados, Suburbans, and Tahoes, along with the GMC Sierra, Yukon and Yukon XL.
If you have a consumer problem, call the Troubleshooter hot line at (216) 431-3457, or click here to fill out a complaint form.
Luxury-Brand Cars Aren't Always Reliable
Many New Models Have Electrical Problems, Survey Reveals
POSTED: 2:37 p.m. EDT May 29, 2003
CLEVELAND -- Auto manufacturers are rolling more reliable cars off the assembly lines.
But Troubleshooter Chris Caswell reported there are some luxury nameplates out there that might have more problems than many people think.
Consumer Reports ranked several cars according to reliability.
The owner of a 2001 Mercedes-Benz is very happy with her car, except for one thing.
Since Lisa Moeller bought it, her Mercedes has been in and out of the repair shop with a mysterious electrical defect.
"We do bring it back to the dealer and they, you know, do their thing and then eventually tell me something else is wrong," she said.
Consumer Reports' latest survey of $3.5 million of its subscribers shows many of the newer Mercedes-Benz models have electrical problems.
"It may be that they've got more electrical features on there, trying to get more of the new technology in there," said David Champion, of Consumer Reports "But it seems to be causing problems."
Besides electrical problems, the Mercedes M-class sport utility vehicle also has some problems with power equipment, such as windows and door locks and with squeaks and rattles.
By contrast, the survey shows Korean Hyundais -- once notoriously unreliable -- have gotten much better.
"In the last few years we've seen some very good products come from Hyundai and their reliability has increased so much that, in the 2002 model years, they actually tied second place with Honda," Champion said.
The owner of a 3-year-old Hyundai Sonata said he's only had to bring his car up to the shop for tune-ups.
"I just bring it in for normal maintenance and I haven't had a problem with it yet," Climmie Royal said.
The Consumer Reports survey showed that, overall, Asian cars are the most reliable. Also, American-made vehicles have improved to the point where they are now on par with European brands.
Consumer Reports said some American vehicles with improved reliability are newer model Chevrolet Silverados, Suburbans, and Tahoes, along with the GMC Sierra, Yukon and Yukon XL.
If you have a consumer problem, call the Troubleshooter hot line at (216) 431-3457, or click here to fill out a complaint form.
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Consumer Reports said some American vehicles with improved reliability are newer model Chevrolet Silverados, Suburbans, and Tahoes, along with the GMC Sierra, Yukon and Yukon XL.
Mobil2 yg disebutkan disini ukurannya betul2 lebih gede dr gajah,
modelnya seperti blazer tp lbh gede lg,dg engine V6 ato V8 more 3000cc di US aja disebutnya truck?
Kalo masuk keindo,ngga terbayang biaya operasionalnya kalo 1:4-5 km minumnya?Apalagi yg yukon XL.
Reliable but,gmn dg bbm?
Mobil2 yg disebutkan disini ukurannya betul2 lebih gede dr gajah,
modelnya seperti blazer tp lbh gede lg,dg engine V6 ato V8 more 3000cc di US aja disebutnya truck?

Kalo masuk keindo,ngga terbayang biaya operasionalnya kalo 1:4-5 km minumnya?Apalagi yg yukon XL.
Reliable but,gmn dg bbm?
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Yah Full-Size SUVs itu pada umumnya memang boros bbmnya (karena mesinnya gede), but they're getting better in terms of gasoline consumption.
Sebentar lagi Lexus bakal ngeluarin model SUV RX400 Hybrid, tenaganya di atas 240 Hp, tapi konsumsi bensinnya sangat hemat karena pake Hybrid. Tapi harus di-ingat SUVs seperti Lexus RX, Nissan Pathfinder itu cuma mid-size SUVs, jelas pemakaian BBMnya tidak akan seboros Full-Size SUVs spt Yukon XL, Chevy Suburban maupun Hummer. Fungsinya juga beda kan antara mid-size dgn full-size SUVs
Gue sih gak yakin full-size SUVs spt Yukon XL, Chevy Suburban bakalan dipasarkan di Indonesia, jikalau dipasarkan di Indonesia pun, itu pasti ukuran mesinnya sudah diperkecil dan disesuaikan dgn kondisi jalan di Indonesia. Kalau di Amerika kan beda, org disini nyetirnya di freeway melulu dan juga mereka suka sekali bertualang di outdoor spt camping, fishing, hiking, hunting, rock climbing, skiing, makanya mau masuk ke medan begitu, mereka perlu full-size SUVs seperti Chevy Suburban yg mempunyai kemampuan dan tenaga yg memadai untuk off road atau maupun sekedar menarik yacht-nya atau RV-nya sewaktu mereka berliburan.
Sebentar lagi Lexus bakal ngeluarin model SUV RX400 Hybrid, tenaganya di atas 240 Hp, tapi konsumsi bensinnya sangat hemat karena pake Hybrid. Tapi harus di-ingat SUVs seperti Lexus RX, Nissan Pathfinder itu cuma mid-size SUVs, jelas pemakaian BBMnya tidak akan seboros Full-Size SUVs spt Yukon XL, Chevy Suburban maupun Hummer. Fungsinya juga beda kan antara mid-size dgn full-size SUVs

Gue sih gak yakin full-size SUVs spt Yukon XL, Chevy Suburban bakalan dipasarkan di Indonesia, jikalau dipasarkan di Indonesia pun, itu pasti ukuran mesinnya sudah diperkecil dan disesuaikan dgn kondisi jalan di Indonesia. Kalau di Amerika kan beda, org disini nyetirnya di freeway melulu dan juga mereka suka sekali bertualang di outdoor spt camping, fishing, hiking, hunting, rock climbing, skiing, makanya mau masuk ke medan begitu, mereka perlu full-size SUVs seperti Chevy Suburban yg mempunyai kemampuan dan tenaga yg memadai untuk off road atau maupun sekedar menarik yacht-nya atau RV-nya sewaktu mereka berliburan.
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Mobil yg mempunyai berat tertentu akan dikategorikan sbg Trucks. PT Cruiser saja kabarnya akan dimasukkan ke kategori light-truck menurut proposal baru (di Amrik) yg men-draw line antara mobil dgn trucks.edward wrote:Mobil2 yg disebutkan disini ukurannya betul2 lebih gede dr gajah, modelnya seperti blazer tp lbh gede lg,dg engine V6 ato V8 more 3000cc di US aja disebutnya truck?
Pickup di sini juga dikategorikan sbg Light-Truck. Makanya jangan heran kalo kalian mendengar org Amrik bilang mereka beli Truck, tapi ternyata setelah dilihat ternyata cuma pickup, tapi pickup disini juga gak main-main, gak sebanci pickup di Indonesia, pickup disini sangat tough, Ford F-150 misalnya, tenaganya besarnya bukan main. Org Amrik sini juga suka beli light truck (a.k.a "pickup" kalo menurut versi panggilan org Indo).
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sekarang kita juga boleh cheer Hyundai, karena hasil survey reliability th. 2004 oleh JD Power and Associates menunjukkan Hyundai mengalami peningkatan kualitas yg begitu drastis sehingga menduduki kedudukan yg seimbang dgn Honda di urutan ke-2 sbg merek mobil paling reliable, padahal beberapa tahun yg lalu Hyundai merupakan salah-satu mobil berkualitas terburuk, Hyundai ini patut diberi standing ovation. Urutan 1 tetap dipegang oleh TOYOTA, disusul oleh Honda dan Hyundai (seri) di urutan ke-2. kalau mercedes sih udah lah, jangan nanya lagi, itu satu merek jerman sangat hopeless, dari tahun ke tahun kualitasnya bukannya membaik malah kaya sampah gitu, gak ada quality improvement yg berarti tuh di mercedes. bener-bener sangat overrated merek mercedes sekarang ini.
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Nice... Hyundai TOP deh. Tapi mersih nih payah banget... Maksudnya apa sih ya tetep jelek gitu, ada motif tertentu kali dengan mempertahankan kualitas itu (konsisten katanya... konsisten jeleknya)
bisa bayangin gak kalo SLR... mobil 1 juta dollar power windownya rusak, jadi kalau mau bayar tol buka pintu... kasian amet ya...
bisa bayangin gak kalo SLR... mobil 1 juta dollar power windownya rusak, jadi kalau mau bayar tol buka pintu... kasian amet ya...
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tuh di website http://www.mercedes-benz-usa.com , ada pemilik mercedes yg complain atap mobil mercedesnya bocor, padahal model mercedes yg dia miliki itu bukan convertible melainkan hardtop biasa.
penurunan kualitas mercedes itu disebabkan oleh CEO mercedes yg gak becus men-manage perusahaan tsb.
pihak mercedes terlalu maruk, maunya cuma focus ke short-term profit, makanya model-model mercedes itu dibangun dengan memakai materials murahan yg gampang rusak karena pihak mercedes pingin hemat production costs guna bersaing dgn kompetitor utamanya dari Jepang di segment mobil mewah, seperti Toyota dgn Lexusnya, Honda dgn model Acuranya, dan Nissan dgn model Infinitynya yg berhasil menproduksi mobil mewah berkualitas bagus dgn production costs yg sangat rendah. makanya mercedes panik, hasilnya yah mercedes lost engineering focus mereka, jadilah mercedes amburadul seperti sekarang ini, dilanda both financial and quality problems melulu, mati engga, hidup pun sekarat karena image kualitasnya sudah menjadi sangat tercemar sehingga banyak pecinta mercedes yg jadi kehilangan kepercayaan terhadap brand name mercedes.
penurunan kualitas mercedes itu disebabkan oleh CEO mercedes yg gak becus men-manage perusahaan tsb.
pihak mercedes terlalu maruk, maunya cuma focus ke short-term profit, makanya model-model mercedes itu dibangun dengan memakai materials murahan yg gampang rusak karena pihak mercedes pingin hemat production costs guna bersaing dgn kompetitor utamanya dari Jepang di segment mobil mewah, seperti Toyota dgn Lexusnya, Honda dgn model Acuranya, dan Nissan dgn model Infinitynya yg berhasil menproduksi mobil mewah berkualitas bagus dgn production costs yg sangat rendah. makanya mercedes panik, hasilnya yah mercedes lost engineering focus mereka, jadilah mercedes amburadul seperti sekarang ini, dilanda both financial and quality problems melulu, mati engga, hidup pun sekarat karena image kualitasnya sudah menjadi sangat tercemar sehingga banyak pecinta mercedes yg jadi kehilangan kepercayaan terhadap brand name mercedes.
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Itu survey based on customer report kan? On new cars? Better not to judge it first..... 
Gini...reliability itu seharusnya diukur dari masa pakai umur mobil itu. Mungkin setelah dipakai 5-10 tahun, baru bisa dilihat itu mobil reliable ato tidak. Emang biasanya semakin banyak fitur mobil,semakin ringkih dia. Umumnya emang customer yang ga tau make tuh fitur gimana. Terus terang orang Amrik sana paling malas yang namanya baca owner's instructions manual. Mereka mottonya begini...."when all else fails, read the instructions manual... "
Jadi mungkin harus ada survey juga sebenarnya, sepintar apa customer yang punya mobil canggih. Meski saya juga tau JD Powers itu realiable hasil surveynya...
Bukan belain merk yang "dianggap" jelek kaya Mercedes BMW KIA loh ya...cuma IMHO....Flame me if you want to...

Gini...reliability itu seharusnya diukur dari masa pakai umur mobil itu. Mungkin setelah dipakai 5-10 tahun, baru bisa dilihat itu mobil reliable ato tidak. Emang biasanya semakin banyak fitur mobil,semakin ringkih dia. Umumnya emang customer yang ga tau make tuh fitur gimana. Terus terang orang Amrik sana paling malas yang namanya baca owner's instructions manual. Mereka mottonya begini...."when all else fails, read the instructions manual... "

Jadi mungkin harus ada survey juga sebenarnya, sepintar apa customer yang punya mobil canggih. Meski saya juga tau JD Powers itu realiable hasil surveynya...

Bukan belain merk yang "dianggap" jelek kaya Mercedes BMW KIA loh ya...cuma IMHO....Flame me if you want to...

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baronth, JD Power and Associates dan Consumer Reports itu bukan cuma melakukan survey mobil baru saja, mereka juga melakukan penelitian mobil yg berusia 3 th dan 5 thn keatas, dan disana terbukti bahwa kualitas mercedes jelek sekali, dapat di lihat di link berikut:
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/consumerreports.pdf
engga 100% betul juga kalau dikatakan org Amrik malas membaca owner's manual. dan lagian dealer mobil mewah berteknologi baru seperti Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, itu biasanya pas ente membelinya di showroom Amrik kan dikasih pelatihan gratis "owner's training", semacam weekend class gitu yg diselenggarakan misalnya every Saturday khusus utk pembeli baru (yg biasanya tiap meeting itu sekitar 4-5 jam), gunanya utk memberikan informasi secara mendetail tentang penggunaan teknologi baru yg diterapkan di product line merek mobil bersangkutan, gue pernah attend salah satu meetingnya. Malahan sebelum ente menyetir mobilnya keluar dari showroomnya saja sudah dikasih tahu dulu informasi awal bagaimana memake teknologi baru tsb.
memang kita disini engga ada satu pun yg maen bela-belaan merek tertentu kok
i love cars, but i am not a brand fanatic.
gunanya kita saling share info kan biar kita mengetahui baik buruknya suatu merek mobil tho? kalau ada pemerosotan kualitas kan biar kita sbg konsumer terlindung juga tho? kadang ada merek mobil yg kualitasnya tidak sesuai dengan harga dan namanya, seperti mercedes sekarang ini.
ini bukannya menjelek-jelekkan mercedes lho, cuma sekedar saling share info aja. sama kan kalo misalnya ada merek mobil lain yg kualitasnya jatuh, pasti gue ato netter lain bakalan nulis untuk share disini, yah paling tidak khan kita jadi aware atas masalah yg dihadapi oleh merek-merek mobil tsb
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/consumerreports.pdf
engga 100% betul juga kalau dikatakan org Amrik malas membaca owner's manual. dan lagian dealer mobil mewah berteknologi baru seperti Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, itu biasanya pas ente membelinya di showroom Amrik kan dikasih pelatihan gratis "owner's training", semacam weekend class gitu yg diselenggarakan misalnya every Saturday khusus utk pembeli baru (yg biasanya tiap meeting itu sekitar 4-5 jam), gunanya utk memberikan informasi secara mendetail tentang penggunaan teknologi baru yg diterapkan di product line merek mobil bersangkutan, gue pernah attend salah satu meetingnya. Malahan sebelum ente menyetir mobilnya keluar dari showroomnya saja sudah dikasih tahu dulu informasi awal bagaimana memake teknologi baru tsb.
memang kita disini engga ada satu pun yg maen bela-belaan merek tertentu kok

i love cars, but i am not a brand fanatic.
gunanya kita saling share info kan biar kita mengetahui baik buruknya suatu merek mobil tho? kalau ada pemerosotan kualitas kan biar kita sbg konsumer terlindung juga tho? kadang ada merek mobil yg kualitasnya tidak sesuai dengan harga dan namanya, seperti mercedes sekarang ini.
ini bukannya menjelek-jelekkan mercedes lho, cuma sekedar saling share info aja. sama kan kalo misalnya ada merek mobil lain yg kualitasnya jatuh, pasti gue ato netter lain bakalan nulis untuk share disini, yah paling tidak khan kita jadi aware atas masalah yg dihadapi oleh merek-merek mobil tsb

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ga ada updateannya lagi nih??
penasaran setelah 8 tahun berlalu apa ada perubahan di peringkatnya itu
duh merek mobil ane ada di peringkat 4 dari bawah
ga heran tahun ini angkat kaki dari amerika
penasaran setelah 8 tahun berlalu apa ada perubahan di peringkatnya itu

duh merek mobil ane ada di peringkat 4 dari bawah
ga heran tahun ini angkat kaki dari amerika
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update data terbaru 2012...

yg di atas rata2 masih nda banyak berubah...tampaknya mereka masi bisa menjaga konsistensi kualitas produknya...salut dah...

padahal dulu ane pernah punya suzuki carry 89...udah di pake 20 taon lebih...masih awet2 aja tuh...paling minnor problem...y maklum udah tua...yg jelas mesin n kaki2 hampir nda pernah bermasalah...


yg di atas rata2 masih nda banyak berubah...tampaknya mereka masi bisa menjaga konsistensi kualitas produknya...salut dah...


suzuki y bos maksudnya...ane baru ngeh ternyata suzuki koq lumayan jelek y peringkatnya di grafik ini...y yg update 2012 lebih mending...tp ttp aja agak jauh di bawah rata2...Jambangan wrote:ga ada updateannya lagi nih??
penasaran setelah 8 tahun berlalu apa ada perubahan di peringkatnya itu![]()
duh merek mobil ane ada di peringkat 4 dari bawah
ga heran tahun ini angkat kaki dari amerika
padahal dulu ane pernah punya suzuki carry 89...udah di pake 20 taon lebih...masih awet2 aja tuh...paling minnor problem...y maklum udah tua...yg jelas mesin n kaki2 hampir nda pernah bermasalah...
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mantap ommr_mytplx wrote:update data terbaru 2012...![]()
yg di atas rata2 masih nda banyak berubah...tampaknya mereka masi bisa menjaga konsistensi kualitas produknya...salut dah...![]()

wah mercedes,suzuki ama kia naik peringkatnya berarti ada perningkatan kualitas ya
sayang suzuki tetep angkat kaki dari amerika

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yg aneh hyundai dan kia bisa terpaut jauh ya? pdhl mesinnya sama. .
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hhmmm chevy... walo jumlah problem nya menurun drastis.. dari 270 ke 135 (50%) tapi malah qualitas nya menurun dibawah average..
tp malah lebih bagus dr audi, infinity parah amat? susah di masukin otak nih list nya
tp malah lebih bagus dr audi, infinity parah amat? susah di masukin otak nih list nya
