Jazz vs Livina

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[quote="poeticmind... kalo livina buat anak sma yg baru bisa nyetir...[/quote]

:D wah, beruntung bener tu anak. gw aja susah bener ndapetin duit pe'go. :e-clap:
sorry brur. just joking. :cupss:
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Kalo bener Livina 140jt dan next jazz 160jt (blm tentu).
Pilihan : Livina or next Jazz (= Japan COTY) with extra funding 20jt,
or even better deal in matic; Next-Jazz CVT or Livina a/t.
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SaebaRyo wrote:weleh MT 140.5jt tinggi bgt, byebye Livina deh, gw ngga jd minat.
Harganya ngga menarik bgt imo, kecuali fog lampnya ud dapet by default. Setau gw XR by default blom ada fog lamp.
cieeee! fog lamp doang...! makasih deh, di toko juga banyak n ga mahal... :D
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Re: Jazz vs Livina

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Livina ada part Nismonya gak? Jazz kan pasti ada Mugennya ..... keren mugen jazz .....
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fadjaralam wrote:
poeticmind wrote:... kalo livina buat anak sma yg baru bisa nyetir...
:D wah, beruntung bener tu anak. gw aja susah bener ndapetin duit pe'go. :e-clap:
sorry brur. just joking. :cupss:
eh, maap... maap... ga ada maksud, bro...! no offense ya... :)
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Re: Jazz vs Livina

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klo model sy lebih suka jazz, livina menang d ground clearance sj. soal bagasi yg luas yah butuh ga butuh sih..

yg penting ntar berapa harga new jazz, klo terlalu tinggi ya sudah ada kemungkinan jazz bakal dilibas livina.
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buset.. SMA 1 aja gw cuma pake twincam tua

baru pas lulus dibeliin all new ..
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satyr wrote:buset.. SMA 1 aja gw cuma pake twincam tua

baru pas lulus dibeliin all new ..
just ignore my comment bro, hehehe ! my mistake, hanya melihat dari luar aja... before diundang ama CS nissan. :D

sma gue pake VW, lulus kuliah pake kijang. 8)
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ga masalah bos. temen gw yg SMA 1 pake Galant ST (baru) juga ada.

bahkan ada yg dibeliin hyundai coupe baru. ^_^

tp ada jg yg naek sepeda... all fine... :D

namanya rejeki orang kan beda2. hehe
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Jazz 2008 bakalan dipasangin supercharger.

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Kerennnnnnnn turbonya, tapi mo lari di mana ya di Jakarta?
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itu modification buat performance maksudnya... ya? dipasang seharga mobil 2nd? hehehehehe! di jakarta masih bisa digeber...

kalo di bandung baru mikir siang2 pake gini, belom apa2 dah lampu merah, jalan pendek2 ... asiknya pas malem aja. asal jangan lewat depan rumah gue... hahahahahaha! gatel kuping nih...

@satyr : buset galant ST? waaaah, gue aja ga kebeli... :D

@all : kalo udah ada yg punya livina, please review... beda dong ya sama hanya test-drive doang... terutama yg A/T.
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Kalo anak SMA babe nya kaya ya pake apa aja juga bisa bro...
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Re: Jazz vs Livina

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Kerenan mana sama Livina Modif ???
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Kalo dari model dasar maupun modif memang lebih bagus Jazz 08, tapi foto beda bila dilihat aslinya. Justru mungkin kalo dilihat aslinya lebih cakep lagi... trus juga design interior harus dilihat langsung .. ga bisa dari foto aja dari situ baru bisa di nilai pantas atau tidak kalo Jazz 08 lebih mahal 20Jtan dari XR.... Kalo memang Jazz08 memang unggul jauh dari design exterior - interior, feature, juga kualitas bahan yg digunakan dan build quality ... wajarlah perbedaan 20jtan tsb, toh lo bayar lebih u/ kualitas tsb.

Kalo u/ modif2... gw bilang sih XR ga sulit u/ di dongkrak penampilannya... baik exterior maupun interior.

Ini yg gw demen modelnya modif saat XR launch di TA.

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Tambah dikit lagi... kalo gw bilang .. XR dan Jazz08 memang dalam segmen pasar yg sama... tapi beda level / target audience-nya .. bisa dibilang XR itu u/ mid-low .. kalo Jazz08 u/ mid-high.
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@maxx: salah satu penyebab gw ga mau lagi pake honda gara2 durabilitynya ga sebagus toyota (dulu keluarga gw selalu pake honda) dan bodynya tipis bgt

makanya skr lirik nissan. dengan harapan durability sebagus toyota (bukan toyoda yah)
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wah gue cuma punya honda sekali2nya yg taun 84 A/T. itupun cuman bertahan 2bulan... :P
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dulu bokap gw pakenya accord 79 trus prestige 86. tp lebi rewel (seblomnya pernah pake corona 80).. makanya ke toyota deh :D

dan blom ada rencana balik lagi ke honda
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satyr wrote:@maxx: salah satu penyebab gw ga mau lagi pake honda gara2 durabilitynya ga sebagus toyota (dulu keluarga gw selalu pake honda) dan bodynya tipis bgt

makanya skr lirik nissan. dengan harapan durability sebagus toyota (bukan toyoda yah)
Body emang tipis tuch, ogut punya city z, bodi samping udah penuh sama pentok2 akibat orang lain buka pintu.

kalo soal durability, mesin sih so far so good, udah 120 K masih bisa lari 1-100 km/h dalam 10 detik. dari baru sampe sekarang belum pernah ngelitik sekalipun (pakai premium).
Kopling masih awet, dari baru sampe sekarang belum ganti n masih bisa nyeprint di lampu merah.
Kondisi mesin standar...
Kalo lemahnya di kaki2nya itu lho rada manja kayaknya...

Kalo dari pengalaman pribadi sih jadi soal mesin honda masih oke banget, cuman kurang di bodi tipis n kaki2 aja.

BTW sparepartnya kayaknya lebih murah daripada Toyota.
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wah kalo soal merek sih gimana masing ya...
kek gue sekarang megang suzuki ama nissan, dulu toyota... utk pindah agama memang tidak gampang...

tapi kan tujuan nya sama... perfection, nice to drive and safety.

so back to thread topic... sementara ga bisa dibandingin, karena livina launching duluan. berita new jazz masih ngaco. like i said... gosip new jazz diesel lagi rame dibahas... akan menjadi rame nanti di varian hatchback.

ga tau gosip isep jempol or beneran.

@maxx : ambil livina ga, bro?
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GTR wrote:Kalo bener Livina 140jt dan next jazz 160jt (blm tentu).
Pilihan : Livina or next Jazz (= Japan COTY) with extra funding 20jt,
or even better deal in matic; Next-Jazz CVT or Livina a/t.
Yakin lo New Jazz HPM bakalan persis sama spec-nya dengan Jazz yang di Jepang??? Yakin lo harga New Jazz bakalan sekitar itu???
Padahal HPM sama sekali belom sebut spec or harga new Jazz yang akan dipasarkan di Indo .. :lol:
Kalo liat modus operandi HPM selama ini mah, gue yakin New Jazz bakalan di spec down abis-abisan, tapi harga tetap mahal :lol: Kayak gak tau aja gimana HPM selama ini ;D
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@ poeticmind: .. Gw dah ambil GL 1.8 XV MT 6Speed... ga nyesel dikitpun dg pilihan gw... :D .. gw dah lihat XR, built Quality GL XV... tetap diatas XR .... XR dirancang dari GL SV dipotong 20cm, buang baris 3, rombak konstruksi baris 2 - lubang a/c baris 2, ganti Blower dg suara lebih kalem + grill 1.8XV + EM .. itu aja yg gw perhatikan

@Satyr & Ongko: Body Tipis ... sejak mobil2 keluaran mulai thn 2001 Semua udah down grade ke plat tipis .. sebenarnya tujuan utama agar power to weight ratio bertambah besar ... dan juga dulu pakai plat tebal2 krn belum ketemu teknologi yg mendukung u/ press body dg lekuk2 yg bisa lebih extreme dg plat tipis.
Intinya .. bisa disimpulan thn <2000 Boil Jepang plat bodynya 0.7-0.9 mm campur2, Boil Eropa 0.8-1mm campur2.. kalo SEkarang.. Jepang 0.6-0.8mm dan Eropa 0.7-0.9mm.
Campur2 krn ga tiap part body sama ketebalannya.. kalo atap biasanya lebih tebal

GL pake plat dg ketebalan 0.6-0.8mm .. atap 0.8mm dg stiffer U melintang horizontal dan dipintu2 0.6-0.65mm dg stiffer berbentuk plat U dan juga ada side impact beam yg jg melekat pada dinding pintu. Nah Kalo AVZ ada orang diluar terdorong ampir jatuh trus kena pintu.. pasti dekok/kempot.. kalo GL masih ada penyangga... intinya konstruksi GL much better meskipun pake plat body yg tebalnya cuma 0.6-0.8mm.

Fyi, plat body GL di cetak/press di Indo... tp bahan plat body-nya di import lgs dari Jepun.
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maxx wrote:@ poeticmind: .. Gw dah ambil GL 1.8 XV MT 6Speed... ga nyesel dikitpun dg pilihan gw... :D .. gw dah lihat XR, built Quality GL XV... tetap diatas XR .... XR dirancang dari GL SV dipotong 20cm, buang baris 3, rombak konstruksi baris 2 - lubang a/c baris 2, ganti Blower dg suara lebih kalem + grill 1.8XV + EM .. itu aja yg gw perhatikan
hmmm ic.
blower lebih kalem di XR, maksudnya lebih lemah semburan nya? karena XR lebih kecil... ? maybe.
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Re: Jazz vs Livina

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Hhhmmmm.. Jazz2008 pastinya lebih keren.. Livina (any type) design eksteriornya agak ketinggalan.. terlalu datar n biasa banget untuk mobil yang keluar baru aja..
mesin Jazz 2008 i-VTEC (kata majalah) 118HP by default.. + Turbo kit 0.5Bar bisa gampang tembus 180HP, bodi kit & segala asesorisnya buanyak buanget... kalo ada duit, gw pilih ini mobil...
kayane Nismo belum banyak untuk Livina yah?? kalo Nrimo sih banyak tuh, alias uji coba dulu hasilnya belum ketauan.. hehehe, no offense bros...

mau yang keren & modis? Jazz.. mau yg space lebih? Livina..