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:big_think: :big_think:

WAKTU awal2x perang ukranie masih tahap honey moon si di puja2x :big_think:
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Bibieight wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:30 Nah merek2 Mobcin yg. second tier ini yg bingung (kalo BYD kayaknya jelas), mereka ada roadmap, atau jangan2 dikit2 ganti baru, model lama ditinggal gitu aja :big_think:
coba liat yang paling established macem wuling,

itu confero/cortez/almaz, udah berapa abad ngga diganti, tapi jor-joran keluarin barang baru terus.

ngeciumnya si bau bau ngikutin gayanya ind*mobil dan mitsu ini merek merek cungkwo kalo failed di market ya dilepas, diem diem sparepart nggak ada, kalo laris di milking terus.
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darrelund wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:37
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 14:09
dan batere dari SoKor udah gamu invest lagi karena takut dikadalin si you know who lagi. udah kuduga sih karena mending CBU meneln :mky_03:
sama esdm malah LG disalahin grgr ga komit & tepat waktu

aneh :big_biglaugh:

mungkin nanti dari zhongguo ada yang mau beli

https://www.bloombergtechnoz.com/detail ... itan-di-ri
kalo dari CNBC luar sih demands EV nyungsep lebih dari 50% makanya ga feasible, plus tarif trumps negara pada adjust insentif beberapa hal.
yah tapi om trumps ini gwa agak sedikit setuju yah, mungkin bilang ke EV industri "loe itu hebat karena gwa bebasin pajek, ada tax deduction, ma charging lu gwa subsidi; skrg nyoh coba jadi business as usual"
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ChZ wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:47
Bibieight wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:30 Nah merek2 Mobcin yg. second tier ini yg bingung (kalo BYD kayaknya jelas), mereka ada roadmap, atau jangan2 dikit2 ganti baru, model lama ditinggal gitu aja :big_think:
coba liat yang paling established macem wuling,

itu confero/cortez/almaz, udah berapa abad ngga diganti, tapi jor-joran keluarin barang baru terus.

ngeciumnya si bau bau ngikutin gayanya ind*mobil dan mitsu ini merek merek cungkwo kalo failed di market ya dilepas, diem diem sparepart nggak ada, kalo laris di milking terus.
nah ini juga malesnya orang2 yang 3rd party repairs shop sih sparepart kagak ada.
darrelund wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:37
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 14:09
dan batere dari SoKor udah gamu invest lagi karena takut dikadalin si you know who lagi. udah kuduga sih karena mending CBU meneln :mky_03:
sama esdm malah LG disalahin grgr ga komit & tepat waktu

aneh :big_biglaugh:

mungkin nanti dari zhongguo ada yang mau beli

https://www.bloombergtechnoz.com/detail ... itan-di-ri
yah mungkin gerombolan si "itu" lagi sih
cman mana mau pak kaianya wkwkwkw
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KielConstantine wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 17:30
b0ku wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:12 kalo byd dari desain rangkanya yang gampang korosi keknya emang ud tau cuma jadi sampah lifespamnya alias kalo batre jebol 10-15taun lsg buang ganti baru :big_dunno:
Apapun merk EV nya


Kalo udah dibeli (or terlanjur?) yah di nikmati aja ..

Urusan mau di jual lg 5-8-10 taon kedepan seharga besi kiloan orang madura jg ya terima aja

Kan udah hemat pajak gratis.. sama tinggal colok stop kontak rumah pas tidur selama pemakaian.

Ya ga om ? :big_blushing:


Btw ane dapet kabar stock sisa MG4ev nik 2024 bisa dapet di 350 jutaan brand new. Gass tuh yg mau coba EV
Hati2 ngecharge sambil tidur, namanya electron 7-8kW klo error di mekanis atau chip controller nya,
Bisa jd kembang api batrenya.

Jd namanya ngecharge harus dijaga / monitor

Nyesel datang di belakang, klo di depan, namanya pendaftaran :ngacir:
wkwkwkwk the last statements :mky_07:
tapi bener sih ampe bikin penjualan ioniq turun
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:59
nah ini juga malesnya orang2 yang 3rd party repairs shop sih sparepart kagak ada.
saya nggak liat mereka ada niatan buat bikin sustainable business environment. murni buat dumping barang aja sih. biasa tipikal gini bakal larisnya ya di jakarta-jakarta aja.

market +62 diseriusin sama mereka? mending jualan domestic kali. hahaha.
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ngga usah jauh jauh repair baterai, body penyok kecelakaan "standar", perbaikan mobil listrik punya SOP khusus
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ilhami wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:36 ngga usah jauh jauh repair baterai, body penyok kecelakaan "standar", perbaikan mobil listrik punya SOP khusus
PDR penggger jalan berarti gabisa yah? gwa baru tau yang ini sih
ChZ wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:13
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:59
nah ini juga malesnya orang2 yang 3rd party repairs shop sih sparepart kagak ada.
saya nggak liat mereka ada niatan buat bikin sustainable business environment. murni buat dumping barang aja sih. biasa tipikal gini bakal larisnya ya di jakarta-jakarta aja.

market +62 diseriusin sama mereka? mending jualan domestic kali. hahaha.
SBY, JOGJA, JKT........mmungkin itu sih. skrg aja kalo liat penyebaran charrgin station juga ga semasif waktu awal2 hype jaman kopid dulu. :big_think: rumor has it pada sadar kalo piara charging station itu "gak murah"
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:46
SBY, JOGJA, JKT........mmungkin itu sih. skrg aja kalo liat penyebaran charrgin station juga ga semasif waktu awal2 hype jaman kopid dulu. :big_think: rumor has it pada sadar kalo piara charging station itu "gak murah"
terus gimana gak kesel itu korea kayak dikerjain. udah invest pabrik, invest charging station, yang manfaatin china. gak heran sempet ngamuk mau batasin charger hyundai nggak bisa buat mobcin :upss:
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ChZ wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:10
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:46
SBY, JOGJA, JKT........mmungkin itu sih. skrg aja kalo liat penyebaran charrgin station juga ga semasif waktu awal2 hype jaman kopid dulu. :big_think: rumor has it pada sadar kalo piara charging station itu "gak murah"
terus gimana gak kesel itu korea kayak dikerjain. udah invest pabrik, invest charging station, yang manfaatin china. gak heran sempet ngamuk mau batasin charger hyundai nggak bisa buat mobcin :upss:
makanya itu, plus CBU china jauh lebih murah dan lebih "didukung" skrg
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:18
makanya itu, plus CBU china jauh lebih murah dan lebih "didukung" skrg
makanna modelan gini gw liat demand amerika gw ketawa2x aja ampe di turutin benefit ke kita banyak bener yang rugi cuma negara emang gw pikirin TKDN omong kosong mau usaha aja di persulit terus yang dilindungin kasih produk kualitas suka2x liat aja sejak TKDN kualitasnya ampas semua :big_bored:
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b0ku wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:31
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:18
makanya itu, plus CBU china jauh lebih murah dan lebih "didukung" skrg
makanna modelan gini gw liat demand amerika gw ketawa2x aja ampe di turutin benefit ke kita banyak bener yang rugi cuma negara emang gw pikirin TKDN omong kosong mau usaha aja di persulit terus yang dilindungin kasih produk kualitas suka2x liat aja sejak TKDN kualitasnya ampas semua :big_bored:
even china aja, BYD didatengin "ORMAS"
https://www.detik.com/kalimantan/bisnis ... coki-ormas
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Suryaputra wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 0:19
KielConstantine wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 17:30
b0ku wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:12 kalo byd dari desain rangkanya yang gampang korosi keknya emang ud tau cuma jadi sampah lifespamnya alias kalo batre jebol 10-15taun lsg buang ganti baru :big_dunno:
Apapun merk EV nya


Kalo udah dibeli (or terlanjur?) yah di nikmati aja ..

Urusan mau di jual lg 5-8-10 taon kedepan seharga besi kiloan orang madura jg ya terima aja

Kan udah hemat pajak gratis.. sama tinggal colok stop kontak rumah pas tidur selama pemakaian.

Ya ga om ? :big_blushing:


Btw ane dapet kabar stock sisa MG4ev nik 2024 bisa dapet di 350 jutaan brand new. Gass tuh yg mau coba EV
Hati2 ngecharge sambil tidur, namanya electron 7-8kW klo error di mekanis atau chip controller nya,
Bisa jd kembang api batrenya.

Jd namanya ngecharge harus dijaga / monitor

Nyesel datang di belakang, klo di depan, namanya pendaftaran :ngacir:
Masa sih om?tetangga2 di cluster saya ada sktr 5 unit ev yg charge di rmh aman2 aja sdh hampir setahun ini, kalau pagi berangkat kerja saya lihat colokan charger masih nyolok di mobilnya
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Zordon wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:55
Masa sih om?tetangga2 di cluster saya ada sktr 5 unit ev yg charge di rmh aman2 aja sdh hampir setahun ini, kalau pagi berangkat kerja saya lihat colokan charger masih nyolok di mobilnya
ya sama tuh kayak di ameriki rumahnya kebakaran bukan karena EV tapi evnya ikut kebakar pas kejadian evnya gak kenapa2x gak meleduk, karena buat di cek claim asuransi ditinggalah itu rumah apa adanya gak di otak atik termasuk bangke evnya baru bulan kemaren itu ev batrenya meleduk setelah 4 bulan ngejogrok jadi bangke :big_bored:

belom aja om mungkin hari apesnya belom masuk tanggalan :big_bored:

kemaren ud kejadian si di china satu komplek ruko abis gara2x charger ev

ya sama lah kayak charger hp saya bisa meleduk juga cuma ud 10thn pake hp aman2x aja cuma saya preventif aja kalo tidur colokan cabut hp mati yang buat alarm saya taro di mode terbang :ngacir:
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Zordon wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:55
Suryaputra wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 0:19
KielConstantine wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 17:30

Apapun merk EV nya


Kalo udah dibeli (or terlanjur?) yah di nikmati aja ..

Urusan mau di jual lg 5-8-10 taon kedepan seharga besi kiloan orang madura jg ya terima aja

Kan udah hemat pajak gratis.. sama tinggal colok stop kontak rumah pas tidur selama pemakaian.

Ya ga om ? :big_blushing:


Btw ane dapet kabar stock sisa MG4ev nik 2024 bisa dapet di 350 jutaan brand new. Gass tuh yg mau coba EV
Hati2 ngecharge sambil tidur, namanya electron 7-8kW klo error di mekanis atau chip controller nya,
Bisa jd kembang api batrenya.

Jd namanya ngecharge harus dijaga / monitor

Nyesel datang di belakang, klo di depan, namanya pendaftaran :ngacir:
Masa sih om?tetangga2 di cluster saya ada sktr 5 unit ev yg charge di rmh aman2 aja sdh hampir setahun ini, kalau pagi berangkat kerja saya lihat colokan charger masih nyolok di mobilnya
Yah namanya mencegah mbah
Klo mau coba2 ya silahkan aja.

Sy ngecharge gadget yg <100 watt aja dimonitor
Apalagi ini ribuan atau bahkan puluhan ribu watt.

Disclemer pilihan bebas ke tangan masing2 :mky_03:
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b0ku wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:10

masalahnya yang hijau itu mobil combustion apalagi state yang sekarang dimana catalic ud mereduksi banyak emsii kalo ud sisa CO2nya lebih bagus lagi karena racunya ilang dan CO2 kasih mamam ke tumbuhan tumbuhan makin kuat makin bantu kita produksi O2 :mky_03:

yang bahaya justru batre nebangin pohon buat nambang materialnya terus buang bahan kimianya ke sungai, buka pabrik industri pake PLTU dimana asepnya gak di saring........ :big_dunno:

biang kerok sebenernya kan itu di kalimantan pohon ditebang2xin.........gimana gak tambah panas coba :big_dunno:


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Suryaputra wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:03 Yah namanya mencegah mbah
Klo mau coba2 ya silahkan aja.

Sy ngecharge gadget yg <100 watt aja dimonitor
Apalagi ini ribuan atau bahkan puluhan ribu watt.

Disclemer pilihan bebas ke tangan masing2 :mky_03:
selama gak rusak properti saya kalo sampe ngerusak siap2x aja saya peres sampe kering :big_bored:

karena kalo di tempat saya sih ud ada larangan dan himbauan :mky_03:
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Ada yg tau kecelakaan ionic 5 N?
Ionic 5 top speed 185km/jam
Ionic 5 N top speed 260km/jam
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Salvanost wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 13:18 Ada yg tau kecelakaan ionic 5 N?
Ionic 5 top speed 185km/jam
Ionic 5 N top speed 260km/jam
itu balapan sama m3 om tau sendiri m3 gesit kek apa :big_bored:



yanwang aja keteteran kalo cuma selisih segini mah ud kalah namanya, dan M3 cuma mobi apaan coba di banding yanwang :big_bored:

ya m4 m3 kan sama aja :mky_01:
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BOCHOR MBAH........ :ngacir:
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b0ku wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 23:47

BOCHOR MBAH........ :ngacir:
tapi emang LEAF kan baterai masih tech lama sih. gwa penasaran kalo model2 LFP ini dibongkar yah *kalo ga keburu di.... :ngacir:
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:59
tapi emang LEAF kan baterai masih tech lama sih. gwa penasaran kalo model2 LFP ini dibongkar yah *kalo ga keburu di.... :ngacir:
keknya mau canggih kek apa kalo ud bengep gitu bisa kejadian deh om itukan sifat dasar listrik ngalir kalo ada konduktor makannya kan aer juga bahaya gak keburu nyetrum tapi keburu meledak :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:25
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:59
tapi emang LEAF kan baterai masih tech lama sih. gwa penasaran kalo model2 LFP ini dibongkar yah *kalo ga keburu di.... :ngacir:
keknya mau canggih kek apa kalo ud bengep gitu bisa kejadian deh om itukan sifat dasar listrik ngalir kalo ada konduktor makannya kan aer juga bahaya gak keburu nyetrum tapi keburu meledak :big_biglaugh:
kalo kasus diatas yes, itu udah kategori "bahaya"
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:28

kalo kasus diatas yes, itu udah kategori "bahaya"
di tempat laen juga sama om cuma butuh kabel bugil atau kabel rontok :mky_03:

kite yang 12 volt aja males ngecekin kabelnya gimane itu yang lebih banyak :big_biglaugh:

lagian sekring itu cuma mutusin hubungan batre ke sistem sedangkan batrenya sendiri cuma storage bukan generator, generator kalo mati otomatis listrik cut off kalo batre emang isinya ud listrik gimane cut offnya???? :mky_03:

kalo yang biang konslet dari batre itu sendiri ya wasalam deh :mky_03:
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sepertinya baterai itu sekitar 7-10 tahun wajib diganti. Takutnya casing nya udah berkarat gitu
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b0ku wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:47
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:28

kalo kasus diatas yes, itu udah kategori "bahaya"
di tempat laen juga sama om cuma butuh kabel bugil atau kabel rontok :mky_03:

kite yang 12 volt aja males ngecekin kabelnya gimane itu yang lebih banyak :big_biglaugh:

lagian sekring itu cuma mutusin hubungan batre ke sistem sedangkan batrenya sendiri cuma storage bukan generator, generator kalo mati otomatis listrik cut off kalo batre emang isinya ud listrik gimane cut offnya???? :mky_03:

kalo yang biang konslet dari batre itu sendiri ya wasalam deh :mky_03:
yes kabel itu juga penting sih. apalagai dah ageing.
ilhami wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 23:15 sepertinya baterai itu sekitar 7-10 tahun wajib diganti. Takutnya casing nya udah berkarat gitu
still dunno tapi kalo laporan dari luar ada yang ganti ada yang belum. :big_think: