Batere "Air" dgn resiko meledak sgt kecil

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The team uses water to replace organic electrolytes – which enable the flow of electric current between the positive and negative terminals – meaning their batteries can’t start a fire or blow up – unlike their lithium-ion counterparts.

https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/all-news/2 ... er-battery

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Distinguished Professor Tianyi Ma (left) and Dr Lingfeng Zhu at RMIT University with the team’s water battery. Credit: Carelle Mulawa-Richards, RMIT University

mereka peneliti dari RMIT - OZ, model spt ini begitu lulus ya kemungkinan besar akan direkrut CATL / BYD

IMO :
Kalo menurut saya Indonesia perlu mengalokasikan budget R&D lebih besar, alokasi budget penelitian yg lebih besar bagi Universitas2....bila ingin berperan aktif dalam supply chain EV industry.....terutama aspek2 dgn nilai tambah yg besar

di Dunia supply chain EV, penguasaan ilmu teknik batere jauhhhh lebih berharga daripada "dagang Nikel"

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Sebagai end user. Gw seh nunggu jg ada tech batre terbaru yg lebih aman dan tahan meledak.

Model apa kek yg penting awet; atau kalo misal rusak harga replace murah.

Btw, tech Solid state battery apa kabar… ?
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KielConstantine wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 18:11 Sebagai end user. Gw seh nunggu jg ada tech batre terbaru yg lebih aman dan tahan meledak.

Model apa kek yg penting awet; atau kalo misal rusak harga replace murah.

Btw, tech Solid state battery apa kabar… ?
Sold state battery

Dr literatur yg sy baca2 bbrp reference

Challenge utama: Biaya dan Proses Produksi, lbh muahal dr li-ion, krn lbh rumit (li ion aja butuh waktu puluhan dekade, untuk harganya bs semakin murah, dan itu jg gak bs dibilang murah klo gak disubsidi)

Honda take first step, develop solid state battery, dgn design nya sendiri, gak pk 3rd Party.
Kalo berhasil produksi mendekati biaya spt li-ion, dia nguasain holy grail BEV.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6296 ... batteries/

Kelebihan dan Kelemahan ada di table 3
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... battery%20(SSB,least%205%20years%20from%20now.

Dengan melihat pros and cons (saat ini)
Most likely bakal dipakai di premium lineup BEV

There's much room for improvement.
Krn kunci nya BEV ya di batre sih.

Subsidi bertahan seberapa lama sih.
Yg disubsidi org middle class - rich :big_biglaugh:
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resikot meledak sangat kecil yeah right, tapi namanya listrik ratusan ribu volt resiko short circuit sangat besar............ :ngacir:

yang 12volt aja selalu jadi biang masalah....... :big_bored:
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b0ku wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 23:56 resikot meledak sangat kecil yeah right, tapi namanya listrik ratusan ribu volt resiko short circuit sangat besar............ :ngacir:

yang 12volt aja selalu jadi biang masalah....... :big_bored:
Bahhh :big_biglaugh:
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KielConstantine wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 18:11 Sebagai end user. Gw seh nunggu jg ada tech batre terbaru yg lebih aman dan tahan meledak.

Model apa kek yg penting awet; atau kalo misal rusak harga replace murah.

Btw, tech Solid state battery apa kabar… ?
gw sih nungguin fusion EV aja om........ :ngacir:



ngarepin batre sampe dunia kiamat juga gak bakalan sustain wong namanya aja ud batre energy storage device selalu butuh device laen buat ngisi :mky_07:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 0:34
KielConstantine wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 18:11 Sebagai end user. Gw seh nunggu jg ada tech batre terbaru yg lebih aman dan tahan meledak.

Model apa kek yg penting awet; atau kalo misal rusak harga replace murah.

Btw, tech Solid state battery apa kabar… ?
gw sih nungguin fusion EV aja om........ :ngacir:



ngarepin batre sampe dunia kiamat juga gak bakalan sustain wong namanya aja ud batre energy storage device selalu butuh device laen buat ngisi :mky_07:
Lbh serem,
Containment storage bochor / crack dikittt, meninggal semua kena radiasi dalam radius X km [emo-yesno]

dobel std, takut meledug, tp gak takut radiasi :upss:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 0:40
Lbh serem,
Containment storage bochor / crack dikittt, meninggal semua kena radiasi dalam radius X km [emo-yesno]

dobel std, takut meledug, tp gak takut radiasi :upss:
kalo mau fusion nuklir dari dulu ud ada kali tuh mobil reaktor nuklir mini pake pelet segede upil 20thn baru ganti pelet :big_biglaugh:

masalahnya kayak om bilang pada takut radiasi bahkan kapal kargo sama cruise liner pun akhirnya nyerah pake diesel elektrik, ya baru uji coba bahkan jepang baru bikin aja ud dj demo dimana2x :big_biglaugh:

bukan itulah lah om china us eropa itu selama ini lagi nyari clean fusion reactor........ beda sama nuklir :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:04
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 0:40
Lbh serem,
Containment storage bochor / crack dikittt, meninggal semua kena radiasi dalam radius X km [emo-yesno]

dobel std, takut meledug, tp gak takut radiasi :upss:
kalo mau fusion nuklir dari dulu ud ada kali tuh mobil reaktor nuklir mini pake pelet segede upil 20thn baru ganti pelet :big_biglaugh:

masalahnya kayak om bilang pada takut radiasi bahkan kapal kargo sama cruise liner pun akhirnya nyerah pake diesel elektrik, ya baru uji coba bahkan jepang baru bikin aja ud dj demo dimana2x :big_biglaugh:

bukan itulah lah om china us eropa itu selama ini lagi nyari clean fusion reactor........ beda sama nuklir :big_biglaugh:
Msh jauh

Yg depan mata dl batre tuhh :mky_04:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:53
b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:04
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 0:40
Lbh serem,
Containment storage bochor / crack dikittt, meninggal semua kena radiasi dalam radius X km [emo-yesno]

dobel std, takut meledug, tp gak takut radiasi :upss:
kalo mau fusion nuklir dari dulu ud ada kali tuh mobil reaktor nuklir mini pake pelet segede upil 20thn baru ganti pelet :big_biglaugh:

masalahnya kayak om bilang pada takut radiasi bahkan kapal kargo sama cruise liner pun akhirnya nyerah pake diesel elektrik, ya baru uji coba bahkan jepang baru bikin aja ud dj demo dimana2x :big_biglaugh:

bukan itulah lah om china us eropa itu selama ini lagi nyari clean fusion reactor........ beda sama nuklir :big_biglaugh:
Msh jauh

Yg depan mata dl batre tuhh :mky_04:
batre meh...... :big_bored:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:10
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:53
b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:04

kalo mau fusion nuklir dari dulu ud ada kali tuh mobil reaktor nuklir mini pake pelet segede upil 20thn baru ganti pelet :big_biglaugh:

masalahnya kayak om bilang pada takut radiasi bahkan kapal kargo sama cruise liner pun akhirnya nyerah pake diesel elektrik, ya baru uji coba bahkan jepang baru bikin aja ud dj demo dimana2x :big_biglaugh:

bukan itulah lah om china us eropa itu selama ini lagi nyari clean fusion reactor........ beda sama nuklir :big_biglaugh:
Msh jauh

Yg depan mata dl batre tuhh :mky_04:
batre meh...... :big_bored:
Benci dan cinta tuh beda tipis gannss :big_biglaugh:

Klo sy mah blm kepikir, kecuali klo ada cold money seekor seal.. Nah br deh :ngacir:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:18
b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:10
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:53

Msh jauh

Yg depan mata dl batre tuhh :mky_04:
batre meh...... :big_bored:
Benci dan cinta tuh beda tipis gannss :big_biglaugh:

Klo sy mah blm kepikir, kecuali klo ada cold money seekor seal.. Nah br deh :ngacir:
saya paling kalo mandat di cabut mentok di PHEV :drinking:

biar bisa bobo di mobil sambil nyala ac mesin bbm off :drinking:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:54
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:18
b0ku wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:10

batre meh...... :big_bored:
Benci dan cinta tuh beda tipis gannss :big_biglaugh:

Klo sy mah blm kepikir, kecuali klo ada cold money seekor seal.. Nah br deh :ngacir:
saya paling kalo mandat di cabut mentok di PHEV :drinking:

biar bisa bobo di mobil sambil nyala ac mesin bbm off :drinking:
Tungguin aja akor bekas tuh
Minta diskon buat ganti batre :big_biglaugh:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:32
Tungguin aja akor bekas tuh
Minta diskon buat ganti batre :big_biglaugh:
step wgn aja lah :big_slap:

males om mobil terakhir saya keknya cygnus :big_biglaugh:

kalo ud bisa beli cygnus mana pusing beli bbm apalagi isinya cuma ron 92 :big_biglaugh:

soalnya emang saya juga jarang pake mobil :mky_07:

nyari kaki ud ngalamin mendingan pake brio/sigra :mky_03:

cepe cepe juga dapet isi ron 92 juga :big_biglaugh:

apalagi kalo wrv keluar 1.2 keknya lebih asik lagi :upss: