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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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faizzz wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:00
Kayaknya seri w212 dan seangkatannya itu final Mercedes bikin mobil yang beneran Mercedes, makin ke sini makin aneh. Otw dibeli Cina kayaknya :big_biglaugh:
sampe sekarang si masih ngimpi pengen punya E63 N/A w212 :big_biglaugh:



kalo yang ud biturbo kayak ogah gitu :big_bored:
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b0ku wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:05
sampe sekarang si masih ngimpi pengen punya E63 N/A w212 :big_biglaugh:



kalo yang ud biturbo kayak ogah gitu :big_bored:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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b0ku wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:03
vanosz wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 22:18 mknya mending beli civic type r gans,

itu mobil terondolan dan manual,

atau miata dan gr86 dan gr yaris,

nyetir mobil itu yang dirasakan fun drive,

bukan fitur hedon,


fitur hedon beli aja merk xi jin ping,


lampu depan belakang nyala ful sebodi,

jijai norak,


maklum dah ah,

penggemarnya gen z,

kbanyakan,
alesan mobil saya ud ampir 10thn GE8 :big_biglaugh:
nah piara honda 10 taun gak rewel kan,masih top ngicrit larinya kan,

sikat dah civic type r,mobil enak banget,


civic turbo rss ane aja mau dibayarin teman nih,


cuma rasanya gimana ya,

udah modifan proper sih,civic turbo ala ala long type r,

lagi nunggu brembo GTS belakang,

dikabarin steven brake sop masih dipelabuhan ketahan kalipernya,


yah buat mainan di sirkuit dan bisa harian ngassspolllll tapi irit gans,

gampang spin roda buat ledekin kawan ketemu dijalan,walo gigi 2 sampe menjerit ban gans,biar bikin jatuh mental,

manual nih,bikin cvt,

pdhl teman ane anti manual dan fwd,pernah bilang gak suka honda,

maklum piara amg,
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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C63 hybrid 4 cyl kaga laku, diskon gede :mky_07:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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vanosz wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:34
b0ku wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:03
vanosz wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 22:18 mknya mending beli civic type r gans,

itu mobil terondolan dan manual,

atau miata dan gr86 dan gr yaris,

nyetir mobil itu yang dirasakan fun drive,

bukan fitur hedon,


fitur hedon beli aja merk xi jin ping,


lampu depan belakang nyala ful sebodi,

jijai norak,


maklum dah ah,

penggemarnya gen z,

kbanyakan,
alesan mobil saya ud ampir 10thn GE8 :big_biglaugh:
nah piara honda 10 taun gak rewel kan,masih top ngicrit larinya kan,

sikat dah civic type r,mobil enak banget,


civic turbo rss ane aja mau dibayarin teman nih,


cuma rasanya gimana ya,

udah modifan proper sih,civic turbo ala ala long type r,

lagi nunggu brembo GTS belakang,

dikabarin steven brake sop masih dipelabuhan ketahan kalipernya,


yah buat mainan di sirkuit dan bisa harian ngassspolllll tapi irit gans,

gampang spin roda buat ledekin kawan ketemu dijalan,walo gigi 2 sampe menjerit ban gans,biar bikin jatuh mental,

manual nih,bikin cvt,

pdhl teman ane anti manual dan fwd,pernah bilang gak suka honda,

maklum piara amg,
barusan si saya run 170kmh om :big_biglaugh:

lumayan lah daripada lumanyun

besok ganti CV joint luar ud bunyi2x kalo belok............... :ngacir:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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KielConstantine wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:46


C63 hybrid 4 cyl kaga laku, diskon gede :mky_07:
siapa yang mau mesin turbo cc kecil itu kayak di cekek mau larinya lebih cepet sensasinya beda sama cc gede...... :mky_07:

belom beban dari batre bikin mobil makin gak lincah di tempat sempit mau di sikruit recordnya bagus tetep aja itu sirkuit biasanya jalurnya lebar2x cobain sana ke touge lawan civic butut full tuning tenaga cuma 250-300hp n/a gw jamiN KO............................ :ngacir: :ngacir:

nsx hybrid yang recordnya lumayan aja ngos2xan lawan NA1 yang tenaganya cuma separonya...... :mky_07:

ngefeknya pas di jalan mobil jd gak enak buat selap selip di kota atau jalanan rame :big_bored:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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brembo/rembro?

yg kanan itu varian kmrn yg lari di nurburgring, yg kiri varian biasa
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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darrelund wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 13:48 brembo/rembro?

yg kanan itu varian kmrn yg lari di nurburgring, yg kiri varian biasa
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B nge REM BO :ngacir:

ya kan emang 600hp itu buat pamer otong saya gede......... abis itu di jalanan mah cuma bisa cruising 80-100kmh max kalo gak batrenya drain fast ya rem segitu cukup lah............ :ngacir:
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darrelund wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 13:48 brembo/rembro?

yg kanan itu varian kmrn yg lari di nurburgring, yg kiri varian biasa
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Yg jd pertanyaan itu brembo dipajang gede2 gitu tulisannya beneran brembo kagak ya? Kalo brembo asli masa bikin kaliper ricer gitu, housing gede tp pad super kecil. Kalo brembo kw masa itu itu siomay bikin mass product nyantumin merk 3rd party tp kw. Yah walupun di cungkuo kampret sih perlindungan merknya :big_biglaugh:

Apa jgn2 kalo di zoom in tulisannya bukan brembo beneran kali ya. Br3mbo, 8rembo, Brem6o, apa lg ya :big_biglaugh:

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Ternyata beneran brembo asli yah. Tp si brembo geblek jg sih mau partnya dipake di mbl spec segitu. Apa ga ada brainstorming dlu yak pas kerjasama. Dikit banyak jd nyerempet nama brembo jg kan.
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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pernah dikasi tau steven brakesop brembo ada made in china,

di tokped juga banyak brembo ala ala la la long,gak logika brembo rem nomor wahid harganya belasan tiaw,kelas cere aja gocap,

tapi brake sop jual made in italy, bisa di cek barcode di website


piringannya sih gahar ky ceramik,

kaliper gede kampas seuprit,gak jelas berapa piston,mungkin brembo single piston,

emang negeri ono paling gape klo bikin kloningan,

yang penting keliatan dimata keren,
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:28
KielConstantine wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:46


C63 hybrid 4 cyl kaga laku, diskon gede :mky_07:
siapa yang mau mesin turbo cc kecil itu kayak di cekek mau larinya lebih cepet sensasinya beda sama cc gede...... :mky_07:

belom beban dari batre bikin mobil makin gak lincah di tempat sempit mau di sikruit recordnya bagus tetep aja itu sirkuit biasanya jalurnya lebar2x cobain sana ke touge lawan civic butut full tuning tenaga cuma 250-300hp n/a gw jamiN KO............................ :ngacir: :ngacir:

nsx hybrid yang recordnya lumayan aja ngos2xan lawan NA1 yang tenaganya cuma separonya...... :mky_07:

ngefeknya pas di jalan mobil jd gak enak buat selap selip di kota atau jalanan rame :big_bored:
yah mirip modifan monster,

secara spek dyno wow bingit,

padahal harian jalan indo tsiksa,digas kelamaan bengongnya,

mknya gr 86 dan miata dan type r itu lincah dan irit,

bobotnya ringan,
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:24
vanosz wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:34
b0ku wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:03

alesan mobil saya ud ampir 10thn GE8 :big_biglaugh:
nah piara honda 10 taun gak rewel kan,masih top ngicrit larinya kan,

sikat dah civic type r,mobil enak banget,


civic turbo rss ane aja mau dibayarin teman nih,


cuma rasanya gimana ya,

udah modifan proper sih,civic turbo ala ala long type r,

lagi nunggu brembo GTS belakang,

dikabarin steven brake sop masih dipelabuhan ketahan kalipernya,


yah buat mainan di sirkuit dan bisa harian ngassspolllll tapi irit gans,

gampang spin roda buat ledekin kawan ketemu dijalan,walo gigi 2 sampe menjerit ban gans,biar bikin jatuh mental,

manual nih,bikin cvt,

pdhl teman ane anti manual dan fwd,pernah bilang gak suka honda,

maklum piara amg,
barusan si saya run 170kmh om :big_biglaugh:

lumayan lah daripada lumanyun

besok ganti CV joint luar ud bunyi2x kalo belok............... :ngacir:
wah tanggung itu,

GE harusnya 190,

city ane aja biasa segitu,masih stok,

apalg yang udah modifan sasis,


jangan bikin malu honda dah ah,

:ngacir:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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vanosz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 22:24
wah tanggung itu,

GE harusnya 190,

city ane aja biasa segitu,masih stok,

apalg yang udah modifan sasis,


jangan bikin malu honda dah ah,

:ngacir:
bawa anak om....... :ngacir:

saya mah top speed 181kmh gps mungkin di speedo ud 185-190 :glodak:

170kmh lumayan lah om ud lama gak bawa segitu sejak banyak2x pake pajero :big_biglaugh:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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KielConstantine wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:46


C63 hybrid 4 cyl kaga laku, diskon gede :mky_07:
tp sebenernya gila loh, 2000cc 671hp.. di kilik2 dikit bisa lwat 700hp, suatu engineering tp ttp aja org jd ga nafsu

mungkin one day jd barang unicorn ini
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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enak juga mobil diesel,

ane kalo antri lampu merah nih ya paling depan trs ijo langsung ane tempel pedal gas ke karpet,


ky tadi malam lampu merah alam sutra arah jakarta pake truk 2.8,

mobil sbelah udah beegerak sedikit duluan langsung pencet dah pedal gas truk,


yah semua ky bengong diam ketinggalan jauh,


yah sudah ngibrit aja terus sendirian,

klo bensin kan dr diam mau ngacir naikin dulu rpm nya,

setelah itu ngamuk sepanjang jalan,mata julid keker jarum bensin ilang 1 kotak,

jadi beban dah







diesel paling cun is sundaha,
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 23:59
vanosz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 22:24
wah tanggung itu,

GE harusnya 190,

city ane aja biasa segitu,masih stok,

apalg yang udah modifan sasis,


jangan bikin malu honda dah ah,

:ngacir:
bawa anak om....... :ngacir:

saya mah top speed 181kmh gps mungkin di speedo ud 185-190 :glodak:

170kmh lumayan lah om ud lama gak bawa segitu sejak banyak2x pake pajero :big_biglaugh:
honda city GE sampe skrg ingat itu mobil sasisnya enak,

waktu masih pake setiap hari ugal selap selip tangerang jakarta,bundaran alam sutra ngaspollll trs,

ngeremnya tebit terus,wong manual,


dulu ane sering mikir ini mobil kok enak bingit,pdhl standar semua,gak kalah sama merk sir repair plisur dirumah,

selap selip diantara truk kontener,



ane jual 4 taun pake kilometer 90ribuan,taun 2009,gak ada benerin apapun,170 tiaw ke sorum

gak tau kalo citi skrg,
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vanosz wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 22:00
b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 23:59
vanosz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 22:24
wah tanggung itu,

GE harusnya 190,

city ane aja biasa segitu,masih stok,

apalg yang udah modifan sasis,


jangan bikin malu honda dah ah,

:ngacir:
bawa anak om....... :ngacir:

saya mah top speed 181kmh gps mungkin di speedo ud 185-190 :glodak:

170kmh lumayan lah om ud lama gak bawa segitu sejak banyak2x pake pajero :big_biglaugh:
honda city GE sampe skrg ingat itu mobil sasisnya enak,

waktu masih pake setiap hari ugal selap selip tangerang jakarta,bundaran alam sutra ngaspollll trs,

ngeremnya tebit terus,wong manual,


dulu ane sering mikir ini mobil kok enak bingit,pdhl standar semua,gak kalah sama merk sir repair plisur dirumah,

selap selip diantara truk kontener,



ane jual 4 taun pake kilometer 90ribuan,taun 2009,gak ada benerin apapun,170 tiaw ke sorum

gak tau kalo citi skrg,
klo honda skrg
shir cvt plisur

push and gelinding :mky_03:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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vanosz wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 22:00
honda city GE sampe skrg ingat itu mobil sasisnya enak,

waktu masih pake setiap hari ugal selap selip tangerang jakarta,bundaran alam sutra ngaspollll trs,

ngeremnya tebit terus,wong manual,


dulu ane sering mikir ini mobil kok enak bingit,pdhl standar semua,gak kalah sama merk sir repair plisur dirumah,

selap selip diantara truk kontener,



ane jual 4 taun pake kilometer 90ribuan,taun 2009,gak ada benerin apapun,170 tiaw ke sorum

gak tau kalo citi skrg,
4THN KILOMETER 90rb mah paling shocknya om mungkin saking enaknya gak tau kali itu shock ud treak2x minta di ganti soalnya saya gitu........... :ngacir:

makannya om saya piara posisi duduk enak, mesin revnya enak, maticnya shiftingnya juga enak biarpun gak sekenceng CVT, reability ud bangkotan aja ngalahin HRV low km kuatnya.............. :ngacir:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 22:31
vanosz wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 22:00
b0ku wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 23:59

bawa anak om....... :ngacir:

saya mah top speed 181kmh gps mungkin di speedo ud 185-190 :glodak:

170kmh lumayan lah om ud lama gak bawa segitu sejak banyak2x pake pajero :big_biglaugh:
honda city GE sampe skrg ingat itu mobil sasisnya enak,

waktu masih pake setiap hari ugal selap selip tangerang jakarta,bundaran alam sutra ngaspollll trs,

ngeremnya tebit terus,wong manual,


dulu ane sering mikir ini mobil kok enak bingit,pdhl standar semua,gak kalah sama merk sir repair plisur dirumah,

selap selip diantara truk kontener,



ane jual 4 taun pake kilometer 90ribuan,taun 2009,gak ada benerin apapun,170 tiaw ke sorum

gak tau kalo citi skrg,
klo honda skrg
shir cvt plisur

push and gelinding :mky_03:
honda bikin sasis bagus,

cuma emang mesinnya kurang monster,

dikasi cvt ya amsiong,


letak fun drive dimana,

ikut balapan formula 1 juara dunia eh fokus bikin mobil cvt,

terus gen z ini berasa honda brutal dengan cvt,
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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b0ku wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 0:36
vanosz wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 22:00
honda city GE sampe skrg ingat itu mobil sasisnya enak,

waktu masih pake setiap hari ugal selap selip tangerang jakarta,bundaran alam sutra ngaspollll trs,

ngeremnya tebit terus,wong manual,


dulu ane sering mikir ini mobil kok enak bingit,pdhl standar semua,gak kalah sama merk sir repair plisur dirumah,

selap selip diantara truk kontener,



ane jual 4 taun pake kilometer 90ribuan,taun 2009,gak ada benerin apapun,170 tiaw ke sorum

gak tau kalo citi skrg,
4THN KILOMETER 90rb mah paling shocknya om mungkin saking enaknya gak tau kali itu shock ud treak2x minta di ganti soalnya saya gitu........... :ngacir:

makannya om saya piara posisi duduk enak, mesin revnya enak, maticnya shiftingnya juga enak biarpun gak sekenceng CVT, reability ud bangkotan aja ngalahin HRV low km kuatnya.............. :ngacir:
tapi ya honda emang enak sih nyetirnya,

waktu itu ban cepat habis gak sampe 30 ribu km,

d

nah krn ane gak suka cobain tes,


harusnya jazz GK dan citi Terbaru lbih enak lagi,

ane tadinya mau beli jazz terbaru model skrg,mobil kutu nih,mungkin mesinnya lebih kencang,apalg klo masuk turbo tapi manual,

krn gak masuk ya sudahlah,

tapi klo honda harus manual,apalg koplingnya enteng,

biar rasain nikmat sbnarnya dr honda,


selain itu oondah,
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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vanosz wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 22:29
tapi ya honda emang enak sih nyetirnya,

waktu itu ban cepat habis gak sampe 30 ribu km,

d

nah krn ane gak suka cobain tes,


harusnya jazz GK dan citi Terbaru lbih enak lagi,

ane tadinya mau beli jazz terbaru model skrg,mobil kutu nih,mungkin mesinnya lebih kencang,apalg klo masuk turbo tapi manual,

krn gak masuk ya sudahlah,

tapi klo honda harus manual,apalg koplingnya enteng,

biar rasain nikmat sbnarnya dr honda,


selain itu oondah,
kalo manual harusnya si lebih enak cuma kalo CVT skip aja lah........ :ngacir:

kalo ane dulu freed si gak sampe 10rb kampas rem abis :mky_03:

kalo di GE8 pake kampas rem 800rb aja makannya awet :mky_03:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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b0ku wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 0:24
vanosz wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 22:29
tapi ya honda emang enak sih nyetirnya,

waktu itu ban cepat habis gak sampe 30 ribu km,

d

nah krn ane gak suka cobain tes,


harusnya jazz GK dan citi Terbaru lbih enak lagi,

ane tadinya mau beli jazz terbaru model skrg,mobil kutu nih,mungkin mesinnya lebih kencang,apalg klo masuk turbo tapi manual,

krn gak masuk ya sudahlah,

tapi klo honda harus manual,apalg koplingnya enteng,

biar rasain nikmat sbnarnya dr honda,


selain itu oondah,
kalo manual harusnya si lebih enak cuma kalo CVT skip aja lah........ :ngacir:

kalo ane dulu freed si gak sampe 10rb kampas rem abis :mky_03:

kalo di GE8 pake kampas rem 800rb aja makannya awet :mky_03:
bukan harusnya lebih enak,

manual honda pasti lebih enak,

apalg bawa mobil kutu gitu,klo ane ogah matik kalo ada pilihan manual,

kampas ane malah yang belakang skrg habis 8000 km,


mau keluar tadi pagi olahraga sprinter diatas 200 jd alon alon aja muter alam sutra,

skedar kangenan nyetir aja nih,
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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vanosz wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 13:28
bukan harusnya lebih enak,

manual honda pasti lebih enak,

apalg bawa mobil kutu gitu,klo ane ogah matik kalo ada pilihan manual,

kampas ane malah yang belakang skrg habis 8000 km,


mau keluar tadi pagi olahraga sprinter diatas 200 jd alon alon aja muter alam sutra,

skedar kangenan nyetir aja nih,
belom masanya om saya kayak om :big_childish:

musti ngurus anak hemat BBM ntar deh kalo GE8 ane ud kelar baru kayak om masih banyak yang belom kepasang soalnya :big_grin:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

Post by Suryaputra »

vanosz wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 13:28
b0ku wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 0:24
vanosz wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 22:29
tapi ya honda emang enak sih nyetirnya,

waktu itu ban cepat habis gak sampe 30 ribu km,

d

nah krn ane gak suka cobain tes,


harusnya jazz GK dan citi Terbaru lbih enak lagi,

ane tadinya mau beli jazz terbaru model skrg,mobil kutu nih,mungkin mesinnya lebih kencang,apalg klo masuk turbo tapi manual,

krn gak masuk ya sudahlah,

tapi klo honda harus manual,apalg koplingnya enteng,

biar rasain nikmat sbnarnya dr honda,


selain itu oondah,
kalo manual harusnya si lebih enak cuma kalo CVT skip aja lah........ :ngacir:

kalo ane dulu freed si gak sampe 10rb kampas rem abis :mky_03:

kalo di GE8 pake kampas rem 800rb aja makannya awet :mky_03:
bukan harusnya lebih enak,

manual honda pasti lebih enak,

apalg bawa mobil kutu gitu,klo ane ogah matik kalo ada pilihan manual,

kampas ane malah yang belakang skrg habis 8000 km,


mau keluar tadi pagi olahraga sprinter diatas 200 jd alon alon aja muter alam sutra,

skedar kangenan nyetir aja nih,
on engine aja dah 300HP plus plus
wajar cepat habis
blkgnya aja gtu
apalagi depan :upss:

apalagi bawanya spido nyender kanan :mky_03:
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Re: End of an era for the Germans?

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b0ku wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 13:32
vanosz wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 13:28
bukan harusnya lebih enak,

manual honda pasti lebih enak,

apalg bawa mobil kutu gitu,klo ane ogah matik kalo ada pilihan manual,

kampas ane malah yang belakang skrg habis 8000 km,


mau keluar tadi pagi olahraga sprinter diatas 200 jd alon alon aja muter alam sutra,

skedar kangenan nyetir aja nih,
belom masanya om saya kayak om :big_childish:

musti ngurus anak hemat BBM ntar deh kalo GE8 ane ud kelar baru kayak om masih banyak yang belom kepasang soalnya :big_grin:
:big_biglaugh:

:big_exellent:

yah semua proses,

sing penting main mobil jangan ky trit sugestion,klub galau


baru tau main forum ada klub tes drive mobil sorum,klo mobil sendiri di pinjam tes gak dikasi,


kampret siaaaaaaa,



tapi ane senang liat agans,

pengetahuan tentang modif juga bagus,

krn ane senang cari info tentang modif,


hobi,