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Re: EV's Safety?

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b0ku wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:33
Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:23
multi-planetary colony

jualan EV untuk modal Bootstrapping doi bikin perusahaan baru

klo EV nya dah gak menghasilkan, ya ada sumber cash cow yg ke 2 3 dst
biasalah inovator kan gtu, dia tau generasi Z alpha dst galauers

yg diuntungkan juga manufakturnya, dia bisa maklun apapun based on design dr pemilik brand
which is... manufactured in ........ :mky_03:
jgn lupa dia sekarang deket sama trump dan kemungkinan bakalan jadi mentri trump ud ngomong dia jago budgeting, salah satu yang vital buat memperbaiki amerika :mky_03:

bayangin kalo robotaxi dia jadi mass transport lebih praktis dari monorail atau mrt bisa2x semua kota atau perusahaan taxi pake dia punya semua yang perlu di rubah cuma regulasi kalo mobil butuh pedal sama setir......... :big_biglaugh:
ngecharge eksklusif di poolnya
gak usah antri :upss:

toyota dah tau arahnya kmn
emg cerdas akio toyoda :big_exellent:

hyundai dan jepun aja juga bikin lineup hybrid
follow akio toyoda :mky_03:
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Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:35
ngecharge eksklusif di poolnya
gak usah antri :upss:

toyota dah tau arahnya kmn
emg cerdas akio toyoda :big_exellent:

hyundai dan jepun aja juga bikin lineup hybrid
follow akio toyoda :mky_03:
terus karena robot itu taxi wara wiri atau bisa di pesen 24 jem yang bikin orang males pake pake tarif aja cuma liat aja tarrifnya bisa berapa :mky_03:

EV lebih bagus gini kekontrol sentral sendiri otomatis mau charge ud punya poolnya berapa cycle masuk ke bengkel buat check up dan inspeksi :mky_03:

toyota selama itu barang laku bakalan dijual terus :big_biglaugh:

tapi jangan suruh orang pake mobil EV sama pilot otmatis semua ya bakalan di rujak rame2x :big_bored:
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tesla .png

https://www.kabarbursa.com/makro/95473/ ... e-robotaxi

Ntar lama-lama
- gak perlu beli mobil
- cukup subscription bulanan aja spt SaaS (langganan software)

versi SaaS nya:
- lite version: nyetir manual
- pro: autonomous
- ultimate: auto + manual driving

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:06 tesla .png


https://www.kabarbursa.com/makro/95473/ ... e-robotaxi

Ntar lama-lama
- gak perlu beli mobil
- cukup subscription bulanan aja spt SaaS (langganan software)

versi SaaS nya:
- lite version: nyetir manual
- pro: autonomous
- ultimate: auto + manual driving

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
Kalau free trial gimana
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timbermaniac123 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:31
Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:06 tesla .png


https://www.kabarbursa.com/makro/95473/ ... e-robotaxi

Ntar lama-lama
- gak perlu beli mobil
- cukup subscription bulanan aja spt SaaS (langganan software)

versi SaaS nya:
- lite version: nyetir manual
- pro: autonomous
- ultimate: auto + manual driving

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
Kalau free trial gimana
Turun tengah jalan
Sisanya naik ojol :mky_03: :mky_03:
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Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:06 tesla .png


https://www.kabarbursa.com/makro/95473/ ... e-robotaxi

Ntar lama-lama
- gak perlu beli mobil
- cukup subscription bulanan aja spt SaaS (langganan software)

versi SaaS nya:
- lite version: nyetir manual
- pro: autonomous
- ultimate: auto + manual driving

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
lagian bener elon kok kalo ud gini yang males nyetir biasanya juga pecinta2x EV, kalo taxi dia ngejamur bisa2x orang ogah punya mobil terutama kaum2x yang punya mobil asal gelinding gak hobby nyetir pasti yang kena EV duluan :mky_03:

jadinya orang bakalan simpen mobil kalo pergi keluar kota aja ujung2xnya butuh mobil yang tahan lama kalo jadi garage queen ya ujung2xnya mendingan simpen mobil PURE ICE :big_grin:

sedangkan yang ngotot tetep pengen punya mobil kemana2x pasti petrolhead mobil bensin semua :big_biglaugh:
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Elon Musk itu visionary technologist

suka gak suka.. apa yg dia bikin, menjadi trend,
walau sesaat atau berlangsung lama.

China aja udah mulai bikin reusable rocket, spt spaceX
beberapa percobaan, masih gagal dan meleduk ketika landing :mky_03:


Making a $25,000 EV Is ‘Silly’ and ‘Pointless’ ......
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-mus ... 09165.html

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:16 Elon Musk itu visionary technologist

suka gak suka.. apa yg dia bikin, menjadi trend,
walau sesaat atau berlangsung lama.

China aja udah mulai bikin reusable rocket, spt spaceX
beberapa percobaan, masih gagal dan meleduk ketika landing :mky_03:


Making a $25,000 EV Is ‘Silly’ and ‘Pointless’ ......
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-mus ... 09165.html

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
buang2x cost RND karena bakalan kalah sama china punya juga sih :mky_03:

mending kasih taxi aja :mky_07:
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hyundai.png
https://telegrafi.com/en/strategjia-e-h ... de-pak-ev/

Akio toyoda duduk santai sambil :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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kena depan berarti ini yang recall kemaren bisa kek gini kalo lagi apes ya........ :big_think:
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b0ku wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:33
Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:23
multi-planetary colony

jualan EV untuk modal Bootstrapping doi bikin perusahaan baru

klo EV nya dah gak menghasilkan, ya ada sumber cash cow yg ke 2 3 dst
biasalah inovator kan gtu, dia tau generasi Z alpha dst galauers

yg diuntungkan juga manufakturnya, dia bisa maklun apapun based on design dr pemilik brand
which is... manufactured in ........ :mky_03:
jgn lupa dia sekarang deket sama trump dan kemungkinan bakalan jadi mentri trump ud ngomong dia jago budgeting, salah satu yang vital buat memperbaiki amerika :mky_03:

bayangin kalo robotaxi dia jadi mass transport lebih praktis dari monorail atau mrt bisa2x semua kota atau perusahaan taxi pake dia punya semua yang perlu di rubah cuma regulasi kalo mobil butuh pedal sama setir......... :big_biglaugh:
iyap bisa jadi dia "maen belakang" cman si trump itu apa JD vance bilang mau shrinking EPA dan nyabut apa itu gwa lupa law2 soal enivronment ma CAFE. robotaxi udah ditest kan beberapa negara, jerman jepang korsel cina dsb. cman gwa lupa kapan hari baca nanti lampunya ditambah 1 warna putih menandakan masuk zona otonomos. hmmmm tetep praktis MRT ma monorail sih kalo orang banyak belum masalah ngecas :big_bored:
Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:53
hyundai.png
https://telegrafi.com/en/strategjia-e-h ... de-pak-ev/

Akio toyoda duduk santai sambil :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
tapi akio lagi kejer hydrogen ma synfuel sih
b0ku wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:49
Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:16 Elon Musk itu visionary technologist

suka gak suka.. apa yg dia bikin, menjadi trend,
walau sesaat atau berlangsung lama.

China aja udah mulai bikin reusable rocket, spt spaceX
beberapa percobaan, masih gagal dan meleduk ketika landing :mky_03:


Making a $25,000 EV Is ‘Silly’ and ‘Pointless’ ......
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-mus ... 09165.html

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
buang2x cost RND karena bakalan kalah sama china punya juga sih :mky_03:

mending kasih taxi aja :mky_07:
yah mau gwa share ini wkwkwkwk
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Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:57
ChZ wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:50
sealplayerz wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:44
Tar pas cilaka ada korban jiwa, penyepongnya mlh yg nyalahin EO-nya.
ud pokoknya nabi mereka elon musk gak bisa salah :mky_07:

percayalah orang kek gitu nanti kalo dy yang ngalamin EV fire, dy juga yang bakal ngejelek-jelekin EV, tinggal perlu sekali kebakaran aja buat bikin tuh para penyembah elon musk kecewa :mky_07:
namanya hal baru

biasa nya ada tumbal.. sbg bagian dr uji coba

sampai nanti waktu yg akan membuktikan sendiri, 1-2 dekade gmn adoption ratenya di 3rd world country

let see.. suka gak suka, kita keikut dgn perkembangan jaman

most likely, saat ini hybrid growthnya organic yah.

yg saya yakini, belajar dr yang sudah sudah...
- sesuatu itu klo tumbuh karena dipaksa (disubsidi, dikasih insentif, bakar duit, dsb)
- spt startup, ada waktunya bubble burst
- dan yg survive bisa diitung jari

Pentingnya critical thinking untuk kemajuan bangsa emas 2045 :big_biglaugh:

btw civic hybrid bnyk dipuji reviewer luar - asia tuh,
lbh refine, lbh cepat, lbh smooth, no turbo lag feel.. dan better lah.
turbonya malah jd entry option

siapa tau di masa depan...
bersaing harga ganti turbo vs batre hibrid
dan gak khawatir sm belt cvt :big_biglaugh:
tapi yang jadi maslahnya ya bubble burst itu udah mulai muncul terutama mainalnd dimana stagnansi nyata pertama kali china ajeg pertumbuhan ekonominnya, juga beberapa yang udah pake SWF mulai bend its knee. ya intinya emang mau sampe kapan sprint mulu

yup honda dipuji tapi juga agak "dicibir" karena masih pake tech 2015, betul emang dia skarang lebih refined.
makanya diluar sana malah yang 1.5turbo cvt di stop , jualan 6mt ama 2.0l hybrid (ajib sih 1.5t + manual)
tapi ganti batere hibrid mbah wkwkwkw
cman aneh aja skrg banyak yang ngira toyota jadi honda, honda jadi toyota. honda skrg karena empuk, terus desain maen aman. toyota skrg malah agak sporty, ma desaiinya cukup agresif
moga2 honda tobat deh daripada kaia nissan
https://www.motor1.com/news/740214/niss ... roduction/
contoh si mazda
https://www.motor1.com/news/740191/mazd ... -z-engine/
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:32
tapi akio lagi kejer hydrogen ma synfuel sih
yes.
as usual, dia mencoba RnD selain hybrid sebelum keduluan yg lain.

klo hydrogen challenging di pom hidrogennya, dan masih mahal infrastrukturnya.

synfuel, juga masih lbh mahal proses produksinya dibanding regular fuel.
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:41 tapi yang jadi maslahnya ya bubble burst itu udah mulai muncul terutama mainalnd dimana stagnansi nyata pertama kali china ajeg pertumbuhan ekonominnya, juga beberapa yang udah pake SWF mulai bend its knee. ya intinya emang mau sampe kapan sprint mulu

yup honda dipuji tapi juga agak "dicibir" karena masih pake tech 2015, betul emang dia skarang lebih refined.
makanya diluar sana malah yang 1.5turbo cvt di stop , jualan 6mt ama 2.0l hybrid (ajib sih 1.5t + manual)
tapi ganti batere hibrid mbah wkwkwkw
cman aneh aja skrg banyak yang ngira toyota jadi honda, honda jadi toyota. honda skrg karena empuk, terus desain maen aman. toyota skrg malah agak sporty, ma desaiinya cukup agresif
moga2 honda tobat deh daripada kaia nissan
https://www.motor1.com/news/740214/niss ... roduction/
contoh si mazda
https://www.motor1.com/news/740191/mazd ... -z-engine/
masalahnya mazda maennya mesin low end torque makannya kurang gurih juga NC sama ND aja eanakan NC engine notenya NC gak diapa2xin ud kayak 4AGE20 suaranya.......... tambahin ITB makin gila :mky_03:

makannya NC salah satu mobil impian saya karena suaranya doank cuma malesnya NC juga nyari parts modifnya susah disini :big_bored:
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b0ku wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:25
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:41 tapi yang jadi maslahnya ya bubble burst itu udah mulai muncul terutama mainalnd dimana stagnansi nyata pertama kali china ajeg pertumbuhan ekonominnya, juga beberapa yang udah pake SWF mulai bend its knee. ya intinya emang mau sampe kapan sprint mulu

yup honda dipuji tapi juga agak "dicibir" karena masih pake tech 2015, betul emang dia skarang lebih refined.
makanya diluar sana malah yang 1.5turbo cvt di stop , jualan 6mt ama 2.0l hybrid (ajib sih 1.5t + manual)
tapi ganti batere hibrid mbah wkwkwkw
cman aneh aja skrg banyak yang ngira toyota jadi honda, honda jadi toyota. honda skrg karena empuk, terus desain maen aman. toyota skrg malah agak sporty, ma desaiinya cukup agresif
moga2 honda tobat deh daripada kaia nissan
https://www.motor1.com/news/740214/niss ... roduction/
contoh si mazda
https://www.motor1.com/news/740191/mazd ... -z-engine/
masalahnya mazda maennya mesin low end torque makannya kurang gurih juga NC sama ND aja eanakan NC engine notenya NC gak diapa2xin ud kayak 4AGE20 suaranya.......... tambahin ITB makin gila :mky_03:

makannya NC salah satu mobil impian saya karena suaranya doank cuma malesnya NC juga nyari parts modifnya susah disini :big_bored:
NC nyari parts printilan2 di indo susah setengah mati, ND banyak sih *yah ga sebanyak toyota honda yah :mky_01:
back to EV
anyway karena trumps bakaln menang, belum tau nanti gimana nasib EV :big_biglaugh: ,
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ng-slashed
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 13:37
b0ku wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:25
kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:41 tapi yang jadi maslahnya ya bubble burst itu udah mulai muncul terutama mainalnd dimana stagnansi nyata pertama kali china ajeg pertumbuhan ekonominnya, juga beberapa yang udah pake SWF mulai bend its knee. ya intinya emang mau sampe kapan sprint mulu

yup honda dipuji tapi juga agak "dicibir" karena masih pake tech 2015, betul emang dia skarang lebih refined.
makanya diluar sana malah yang 1.5turbo cvt di stop , jualan 6mt ama 2.0l hybrid (ajib sih 1.5t + manual)
tapi ganti batere hibrid mbah wkwkwkw
cman aneh aja skrg banyak yang ngira toyota jadi honda, honda jadi toyota. honda skrg karena empuk, terus desain maen aman. toyota skrg malah agak sporty, ma desaiinya cukup agresif
moga2 honda tobat deh daripada kaia nissan
https://www.motor1.com/news/740214/niss ... roduction/
contoh si mazda
https://www.motor1.com/news/740191/mazd ... -z-engine/
masalahnya mazda maennya mesin low end torque makannya kurang gurih juga NC sama ND aja eanakan NC engine notenya NC gak diapa2xin ud kayak 4AGE20 suaranya.......... tambahin ITB makin gila :mky_03:

makannya NC salah satu mobil impian saya karena suaranya doank cuma malesnya NC juga nyari parts modifnya susah disini :big_bored:
NC nyari parts printilan2 di indo susah setengah mati, ND banyak sih *yah ga sebanyak toyota honda yah :mky_01:
back to EV
anyway karena trumps bakaln menang, belum tau nanti gimana nasib EV :big_biglaugh: ,
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ng-slashed
Ya makanya... timnya kang elon develop taxi autopilot :big_biglaugh:
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kayukayuthe5th wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:41
contoh si mazda
https://www.motor1.com/news/740191/mazd ... -z-engine/
ah paling ini mesin totoya yg baru cuma rebrand :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:10 zoom zoom zoom zoom

mobil kagak jelas range 200 harganya sinting gila :mky_07:

mobil line up biar di tanya ada AV ada...... :mky_07:
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b0ku wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:49
Suryaputra wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:16 Elon Musk itu visionary technologist

suka gak suka.. apa yg dia bikin, menjadi trend,
walau sesaat atau berlangsung lama.

China aja udah mulai bikin reusable rocket, spt spaceX
beberapa percobaan, masih gagal dan meleduk ketika landing :mky_03:


Making a $25,000 EV Is ‘Silly’ and ‘Pointless’ ......
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-mus ... 09165.html

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
buang2x cost RND karena bakalan kalah sama china punya juga sih :mky_03:

mending kasih taxi aja :mky_07:
sama ada possibility branding tesla "ev premium" bisa luntur

sklas byd aja utk lux segment bikin yangwang & denza kan :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:14 mobil kagak jelas range 200 harganya sinting gila :mky_07:

mobil line up biar di tanya ada AV ada...... :mky_07:
emang gaje mbah, ntah itu yg juwalan mabok ap gmn

padahal dia bisa masupin yg gas mild hybrid aja tuh/ rotary EV sekalian

byd dolpin aja baru brp mbah :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:14
mobil kagak jelas range 200 harganya sinting gila :mky_07:

mobil line up biar di tanya ada AV ada...... :mky_07:
Batere 35,5 kWh, bandrol 840 juta = 23.6 juta/kWh :big_chicken: :big_chicken: :big_chicken: . iX1 kena 1.330 juta, batere 66.3 kWh = 20.16 juta/kWh. Baru kali ini ada Mazdut lebih mahal dari bimmer :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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Bibieight wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:09
b0ku wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:14
mobil kagak jelas range 200 harganya sinting gila :mky_07:

mobil line up biar di tanya ada AV ada...... :mky_07:
Batere 35,5 kWh, bandrol 840 juta = 23.6 juta/kWh :big_chicken: :big_chicken: :big_chicken: . iX1 kena 1.330 juta, batere 66.3 kWh = 20.16 juta/kWh. Baru kali ini ada Mazdut lebih mahal dari bimmer :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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