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https://id.motor1.com/news/728652/alian ... shi-resmi/

Aliansi Honda-Nissan-Mitsubishi Resmi Berdiri

Ketiganya akan bekerja pada mobil listrik dan perangkat lunak.

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akir nya terjawab sudah 2 trit di atas
betul banget waktu yg akan menjawab
aliansi hnm sperti merk fast fashion yg terkenal mendunia h&m :mky_03: :mky_01:
keinginan pemerintah jepen agar hando dan nissin bersatu setelah kasus carlo ghost akir nya terwujud setelah marak nya serbuan boil2 setrum cungkwo saat ini :big_slap: :big_chicken:
apalage hando jomblo trus sejak lama dan kinerja menurun trus dgn penutupan pabrik mobil nya di luar jepen
lengkap sudah konsolidasi otomotif jepen vs cungkwo dan tesla
hanya ada 2 kekuatan besar di otomotif jepang: toyodai matsuda subaru sujuki dan hando nissin miksubiji :emo-photo: :emo-photo:
bagaimana kira2 nasib aliansi2 ini ke depan nya ? skali lagi waktu yg akan menjawab :big_think: :big_grin:
gud luck :big_deal: :big_deal:
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Apa gak saling makan pasarnya di indo ?
Atau mau nerbitin produk honda mitsub buat saingin papanja sama xenia ?
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tetep aja indo cuma kebagian barang india :big_bored: :big_bored: :big_bored:
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Haiqalesha wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:14 Apa gak saling makan pasarnya di indo ?
Atau mau nerbitin produk honda mitsub buat saingin papanja sama xenia ?
outdated klo mau urus pasar lokal sini apalagi mikirin low mpv
pasti mereka memperkuat lini rnd bev yg jd agenda fw. maupin target kedepan klo regulasi mobil hari 0 emisi
kemudian sharing platform even spare part agar biaya rnd maupum inventory bisa d tekan.
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aliansi harakiri :wkkk:
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Yamaha & honda jg bersatu lawan jajahan ev cungkuo
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dari laporan keuangan honda pusat jepang, Indonesia no 2 terbesar penjualan honda di dunia lho,masa ga didengar?
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zonepublic wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 13:39 IMG_20240814_203716.jpg
dari laporan keuangan honda pusat jepang, Indonesia no 2 terbesar penjualan honda di dunia lho,masa ga didengar?
Sepeda motor itu, 4.5 juta setahun..... Tapi motor aneh ya, kalo mobil kan EV-nya kenceng bener, kalo motor EV, bahkan kolaborasi Yadea-Indomobil aja kagak kedengeran suaranya.....
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Bibieight wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 14:30
zonepublic wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 13:39 IMG_20240814_203716.jpg
dari laporan keuangan honda pusat jepang, Indonesia no 2 terbesar penjualan honda di dunia lho,masa ga didengar?
Sepeda motor itu, 4.5 juta setahun..... Tapi motor aneh ya, kalo mobil kan EV-nya kenceng bener, kalo motor EV, bahkan kolaborasi Yadea-Indomobil aja kagak kedengeran suaranya.....
Dealer yadea Uda menjamur loh, Uda kayak dealer byd, tiba tiba nongol dan ukurannya gede
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Bibieight wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 14:30
zonepublic wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 13:39 IMG_20240814_203716.jpg
dari laporan keuangan honda pusat jepang, Indonesia no 2 terbesar penjualan honda di dunia lho,masa ga didengar?
Sepeda motor itu, 4.5 juta setahun..... Tapi motor aneh ya, kalo mobil kan EV-nya kenceng bener, kalo motor EV, bahkan kolaborasi Yadea-Indomobil aja kagak kedengeran suaranya.....
kalo motor ev rada susah mbah...jarak tempuhnya segitu2 aja...paling dipake jarak deket kompleks2 atau yg memang pake-nya predictable
misal 100km ngojol kan deg2an jg
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aliansi isinya org bingung semua :big_biglaugh:

uniknya 3 brand tsb dulu terkenalnya sama dunia motorsport

yg ketiganya pengen go green tapi flop :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:07 aliansi isinya org bingung semua :big_biglaugh:

uniknya 3 brand tsb dulu terkenalnya sama dunia motorsport

yg ketiganya pengen go green tapi flop :big_biglaugh:
ntah kenapa beraliansi di otomotif itu konotasinya brand bingung.

nissan renault dulu juga bingung kan. saking bingungnya ampe ada drama kudeta CEOnya.

macem stellantis isinya brand yang bingung semua juga :mky_07:
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darrelund wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:07 aliansi isinya org bingung semua :big_biglaugh:

uniknya 3 brand tsb dulu terkenalnya sama dunia motorsport

yg ketiganya pengen go green tapi flop :big_biglaugh:
YA lagian fanbasenya petrolhead suruh mamam mobil ijo mana nyambung................ :big_bored:

itu kayak orang yang doyan daging di suruh jadi vegan yang ada bukanya tambah respect tambah kesel makannya sekarang honda juga mulai ditinggalin fansnya ntar yang kesisa bisnis parts restorasi kayak nissan :wkkk:
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Yah gimana, klo gak aliansi kepepet gini mustahil jepang bisa ngejar EV china
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zonepublic wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 13:39 Image
dari laporan keuangan honda pusat jepang, Indonesia no 2 terbesar penjualan honda di dunia lho,masa ga didengar?
Mo aliansi kek apa jg ga ngefek. Kalo yg dijual barang grade third world.

Liat aja tu marketnya kalo ga indihe; brazil; viet; indo. Terbesar tapi product grade ampasan buat apalah :mky_07:
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KielConstantine wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:18 Mo aliansi kek apa jg ga ngefek. Kalo yg dijual barang grade third world.

Liat aja tu marketnya kalo ga indihe; brazil; viet; indo. Terbesar tapi product grade ampasan buat apalah :mky_07:
mereka kenceng di china sama USA loh bukan grade third wolrd yang bikin FLOP kebanyakan maen mesin kurcaci combo CVT sama maen batre ditambah gara2x 3 hal ini reabilitynya jeblok jd uc combo drivetrain gak layak ditambah mobilnya juga rewel, modal dikit kek 2.0 turbo + geared min 6 speed aja kek mazda lebih di appreciate :big_dunno:
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KielConstantine wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:18
zonepublic wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 13:39 Image
dari laporan keuangan honda pusat jepang, Indonesia no 2 terbesar penjualan honda di dunia lho,masa ga didengar?
Mo aliansi kek apa jg ga ngefek. Kalo yg dijual barang grade third world.

Liat aja tu marketnya kalo ga indihe; brazil; viet; indo. Terbesar tapi product grade ampasan buat apalah :mky_07:
ya iya terbesar mbah.

emang negara maju mau terima scooter yang dicuci sasisnya berkarat?

di sini itu rangka berkarat atpm lari ngeles gimana-gimana, prinsipalnya diem diem bae tuh. yang penting revenue udah masuk.

emang scooter itu benda paling enak dijual di negara third world.
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b0ku wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:28
YA lagian fanbasenya petrolhead suruh mamam mobil ijo mana nyambung................ :big_bored:

itu kayak orang yang doyan daging di suruh jadi vegan yang ada bukanya tambah respect tambah kesel makannya sekarang honda juga mulai ditinggalin fansnya ntar yang kesisa bisnis parts restorasi kayak nissan :wkkk:
lama" oe ngerasa yg nge carry imej prowessnya oondah cuma civic & type R doank

sisanya yahhhhh

lagian jg kocak, mobilnya mahal dimana mana

gak disini gak diluar mahallll

di yerman aja hrv hibrid harganya beti ama cx5, gimana mau laku :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:54 lama" oe ngerasa yg nge carry imej prowessnya oondah cuma civic & type R doank

sisanya yahhhhh

lagian jg kocak, mobilnya mahal dimana mana

gak disini gak diluar mahallll

di yerman aja hrv hibrid harganya beti ama cx5, gimana mau laku :big_biglaugh:
civic lama2x enek juga kali om dicekokin CVT gpp deh 1.5t tapi maticnya donk akhirnya di jepang juga panic juga kan keluarin versi RS 1.5 turbo manual lagian maen cvt mulu keliatan kasih manual karena kepepet ngejar market tuner apalagi manual gampang tinggal pungut dari LCGC :big_bored:
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ChZ wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:18
ntah kenapa beraliansi di otomotif itu konotasinya brand bingung.

nissan renault dulu juga bingung kan. saking bingungnya ampe ada drama kudeta CEOnya.

macem stellantis isinya brand yang bingung semua juga :mky_07:
krn klo ud aliansi ya logikanya ud ga bebas" amat, krn harus mikirin yg laen (assuming equal shares), kecuali majority nah baru dah suka" :big_biglaugh:

nissin renault tuh entahlah ap yg dikejer mbah, gangerti jg krn produknya gak ada yg semenarik era pre-merger tiap brand :big_biglaugh:

itu kata ghosn, aliansi N-H-M, itu agenda terselubung ondah buat takeover nissin ama mitsu

stellantis mah au dah

menurut polling carscoops:

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tapi gmn juga, nissin makin kesini makin mendingan ga kyk kemarin, ud punya arah :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:56
civic lama2x enek juga kali om dicekokin CVT gpp deh 1.5t tapi maticnya donk akhirnya di jepang juga panic juga kan keluarin versi RS 1.5 turbo manual lagian maen cvt mulu keliatan kasih manual karena kepepet ngejar market tuner apalagi manual gampang tinggal pungut dari LCGC :big_bored:
yah disana mah dari jaman FK ud ada turbo manual mbah, cuma di gen skrg emg baru di peslipnya aja

populer disana tuh FK7 manual

bahan modipan abisss

ganteng euy, powernya 250 doank, tapi sisanya handling modip mentok

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darrelund wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 13:48
yah disana mah dari jaman FK ud ada turbo manual mbah, cuma di gen skrg emg baru di peslipnya aja

populer disana tuh FK7 manual

bahan modipan abisss

ganteng euy, powernya 250 doank, tapi sisanya handling modip mentok

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https://www.speedhunters.com/2019/12/hi ... -r-killer/
PAKE Turbonya spoon om nyampe sini 30jtan :mky_03:
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darrelund wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 13:48
b0ku wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:56
civic lama2x enek juga kali om dicekokin CVT gpp deh 1.5t tapi maticnya donk akhirnya di jepang juga panic juga kan keluarin versi RS 1.5 turbo manual lagian maen cvt mulu keliatan kasih manual karena kepepet ngejar market tuner apalagi manual gampang tinggal pungut dari LCGC :big_bored:
yah disana mah dari jaman FK ud ada turbo manual mbah, cuma di gen skrg emg baru di peslipnya aja

populer disana tuh FK7 manual

bahan modipan abisss

ganteng euy, powernya 250 doank, tapi sisanya handling modip mentok

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https://www.speedhunters.com/2019/12/hi ... -r-killer/
kata si JDM masters nyobain type R dan FK7 spoon lebih enak buat harian yang FK7 spoon.

setelah dirasa rasain emang civic ini ngga perlu tenaga gede gede, 240-250hp cukup, tp sisanya handling package aja.
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darrelund wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 13:48
yah disana mah dari jaman FK ud ada turbo manual mbah, cuma di gen skrg emg baru di peslipnya aja

populer disana tuh FK7 manual

bahan modipan abisss

ganteng euy, powernya 250 doank, tapi sisanya handling modip mentok

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https://www.speedhunters.com/2019/12/hi ... -r-killer/
FK4/FK7 pada maennya enak gini, power 240-250 hp, sisanya main handling.

spoon punya dicoba sama JDM masters katanya enakan itu buat daily daripada type R :mky_03:
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ChZ wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:50
kata si JDM masters nyobain type R dan FK7 spoon lebih enak buat harian yang FK7 spoon.

setelah dirasa rasain emang civic ini ngga perlu tenaga gede gede, 240-250hp cukup, tp sisanya handling package aja.
bucket list ane beli ge8 tipe S satu lagi yang manual pasang mesin CRV turbo pake turbo spoon convert 6 speed manual :mky_03:

yang matic N/A yang manual turbo :big_grin:

semua honda sebenenrya gitu om mesin mah stock n/a aja asal chasis bisa handle ud cukup apalagi konsepnya cuma mau nikmatin fell nyetirnya chasisnya justru yang di build gila2xan :big_biglaugh:

ini aja galau ge8 matic ane mesinnya dibiarin gini aja apa mau di remap kadang malah yang kurang itu pengen denger rpmnya sampe 8000 kalo lari malah takut kekencengan jd susah gas poll pas belok :big_biglaugh: