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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:34 .....
coleh mbah
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kaya gini udah cukup belon nakut²innya?
kurang lah

belom bawa2 genderuwo merasuki bautnya. belom bawa2 menyan berkilo2. kembang 7 rupa. rabu pon. gunung kawi. dan klenik2 lainnya khas mbah delko. :upss:
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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:46 mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
aki soak. kan dongle constant power draw.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:06
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:46 mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
aki soak. kan dongle constant power draw.
Oh cm itu aja ya :mky_03:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:08
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:06
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:46 mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
aki soak. kan dongle constant power draw.
Oh cm itu aja ya :mky_03:
dongle nya yg bagusan, jangan yg abal2. kl bikin korslet lumanyun deh .... *eh lumayan kamsudnya
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:10
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:08
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:06

aki soak. kan dongle constant power draw.
Oh cm itu aja ya :mky_03:
dongle nya yg bagusan, jangan yg abal2. kl bikin korslet lumanyun deh .... *eh lumayan kamsudnya
Iya jgn yg sub 100k ya :big_biglaugh:
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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:01
yanuarra wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:15
DOHC wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:26

Masa cuman sgitu

Yg oglek koq ga ad
Woiya blm punya yg oglek :mky_01:
Makanya ayo cepetan beli

Konon bentar lg tools nippon naek harga loh
Ada saran yg mana gak mbah
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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:54
blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:41
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:46 mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
pasti dipake mantau suhu coolant ya mbah? :big_peace:
Coolant temp gak worry saya,
Fan radiator aman dan coolant ganti tiap tahun di reservoir jg :big_biglaugh:

Cuma concern mantau atf temp
Dgn gaya drivinv klo nanjak" dan gas rada poll gmn

Cvt ini soalnya :upss:
kl radiator msh oke mestinya msh aman
eh tp CVT Oil nya ganti rutin jg mestinya.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:10
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:08
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:06

aki soak. kan dongle constant power draw.
Oh cm itu aja ya :mky_03:
dongle nya yg bagusan, jangan yg abal2. kl bikin korslet lumanyun deh .... *eh lumayan kamsudnya
kl posisi mobil engine mati khan dia ngga baca data mbah, bener ga?
koneksi ke ECU terputus.
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ga usah nonton, lebih seru baca komennya....
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mbah ada saran u regulator gas LPG di rumah pake merk apa ya?
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mbah ono kalo punya anak buah kek gini pasti udah dipaksa nelen plat kopling.....

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:02 mbah ada saran u regulator gas LPG di rumah pake merk apa ya?



saya pake ini di workshop,


IMG20220908140826.jpg


tiap ganti gas, selalu ganti seal juga.
dirumah pake merk kosangas. tapi pas liat ini kok rada tertarik ya...



ada yang sudah pakai?
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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:59

ga usah nonton, lebih seru baca komennya....
Torque Wrench Stahlwille..? gedore..? JIS...? :mky_07:
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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:11
blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:02 mbah ada saran u regulator gas LPG di rumah pake merk apa ya?



saya pake ini di workshop,



IMG20220908140826.jpg



tiap ganti gas, selalu ganti seal juga.
dirumah pake merk kosangas. tapi pas liat ini kok rada tertarik ya...



ada yang sudah pakai?
ada mbah..,beli 3 biji ( sa pek cheng lebih satu / mrk (NIS ..dibalik tulisannya ) untuk laundry..,bagus.. gak perlu karet warna merah lubangnya.. :mky_03:
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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:11




saya pake ini di workshop,
tiap ganti gas, selalu ganti seal juga.



IMG20220908140826.jpg


siap mbah

Ini seal yg diganti seal yg di tabung LPG khan ya mbah?
marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:11
dirumah pake merk kosangas. tapi pas liat ini kok rada tertarik ya...


ada yang sudah pakai?
yg pertamina itu ada safety valve nya ternyata pantesan berani masang selang ngga dikasi klem ke regulator.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:34
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 3:09

selisih 2Nm atau 0.2 kgfm
atau dikasih panjang 20cm, berarti x5 powah
kyk dikasih beban 1kg untuk panjang trelek 20cm

kyk klimaks lbh cepet aja mbah :ngacir:


2nm itu teorinya.

tapi prakteknya kita nggak tau seberapa sempurna baut roda saat dibikin. kan nggak mungkin selesai baut roda dibikin trus dicek ultrasound satu per satu. bisa jereng plus belekan mata pengawasnya ngeliatin ratusan jutaan baut roda....

kita nggak tau ada crack halus apa enggak, ada bubble apa enggak didalem badan baut.
belum lagi itu baut udah berapa kali bongkar pasang dan tiap kali dikencengin sampe ulir kena beban 110nm apa masih bisa nahan kelebihan yang 2nm itu?
kalo sampe saat pembuatan ada bubble di dalem badan baut, trus sekarang kena torsi kelebihan 2nm, resiko baut mendadak patah kan bisa......

coleh mbah
DOHC
kaya gini udah cukup belon nakut²innya?
Ini lbh meyakinkan mbah :upss: :upss:
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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:34
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:31
sy silent reader di sini :weekk:
ga boleh mbah. pamali. bisa hernia 7 turunan kl ga posting. :upss: :upss:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:34
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 3:09

selisih 2Nm atau 0.2 kgfm
atau dikasih panjang 20cm, berarti x5 powah
kyk dikasih beban 1kg untuk panjang trelek 20cm

kyk klimaks lbh cepet aja mbah :ngacir:


2nm itu teorinya.

tapi prakteknya kita nggak tau seberapa sempurna baut roda saat dibikin. kan nggak mungkin selesai baut roda dibikin trus dicek ultrasound satu per satu. bisa jereng plus belekan mata pengawasnya ngeliatin ratusan jutaan baut roda....

kita nggak tau ada crack halus apa enggak, ada bubble apa enggak didalem badan baut.
belum lagi itu baut udah berapa kali bongkar pasang dan tiap kali dikencengin sampe ulir kena beban 110nm apa masih bisa nahan kelebihan yang 2nm itu?
kalo sampe saat pembuatan ada bubble di dalem badan baut, trus sekarang kena torsi kelebihan 2nm, resiko baut mendadak patah kan bisa......

coleh mbah
DOHC
kaya gini udah cukup belon nakut²innya?
Bagus mbah

Ud terlatih sepertinya

Korban nya si mbah blower yah :big_biglaugh:
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yanuarra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:46
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:01
yanuarra wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:15

Woiya blm punya yg oglek :mky_01:
Makanya ayo cepetan beli

Konon bentar lg tools nippon naek harga loh
Ada saran yg mana gak mbah
Yang

K

T

C

Donk mbah, kan ud satu set soket nya tuh, skalian trelek nya jg wajip merk sama, biar pas ceklek2 nya mantep
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:47
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:54
blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:41

pasti dipake mantau suhu coolant ya mbah? :big_peace:
Coolant temp gak worry saya,
Fan radiator aman dan coolant ganti tiap tahun di reservoir jg :big_biglaugh:

Cuma concern mantau atf temp
Dgn gaya drivinv klo nanjak" dan gas rada poll gmn

Cvt ini soalnya :upss:
kl radiator msh oke mestinya msh aman
eh tp CVT Oil nya ganti rutin jg mestinya.
Nahh ini yg agak sala kaprah

Harap dibedain atf cooler dan warmer

Rata2 CVT (kl ai ga sala inget, ad geared metik yurop) itu model nya atf warmer, makanya kadang suhu coolant bsa ga kekejar ama suhu atf cvt yg ud naek.. ini jg makanya di malon rata2 proton (kembaran lancer ex) nya mreka yg cvt rata2 di modip tambahin atf cooler pake copotan nya lancer evo punya
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:49
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:10
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:08

Oh cm itu aja ya :mky_03:
dongle nya yg bagusan, jangan yg abal2. kl bikin korslet lumanyun deh .... *eh lumayan kamsudnya
kl posisi mobil engine mati khan dia ngga baca data mbah, bener ga?
koneksi ke ECU terputus.
ngga bener.

koneksi ecu emang terputus krn ecunya mati alias ga mau diajak berhubungan (*mbah delko jangan ngeressss :mky_03: )
tapi si dongle tetep nyala krn dpt power on terus dr obd port nya
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:15 Ancer2 aj mbah

3/8 gigi alus umum nya up to 70an newton, walaupun snap on konon katanya bsa 96 newton (ukuran kekencengan baut roda agya ayla)

3/8 gigi kasar, sdikit lebi tinggi newton nya

1/2 gigi alus bsa 100an newton umumnya

1/2 gigi kasar, ini bsa ampir 200 newton, kl yerman kaya si mbah masas ama mbah 69 punya, itu 360 newton (ud ckup kuat buat bongpas baut roda canter)

Btw

Tetep utk break open baut keras wajip breaker bar, trelek kl sering2 hajar baut keras jg lama2 jebol
mantap mbah :big_exellent: JTC tulisannya High Torque itu juga berlaku seperti itu newtonnya ?
Yang JTC 1/4 berapa tuh newtonnya ?

gigi kasar itu up to berapa teethnya ? 42 itungannya masih kasar kan ? (aku krasanya sih kasar hahahaha)

noted mbah berarti 3/8 gigi alus jangan buat buka lugnut ya hahahhaha.....

iya breakerbar tetep buat breakloose sih, cuman ya itu kadang spacenya agak ribet.
pakai impact jld ga masuk, pakai joint impact yang kayak balljoint eh banyak abis torsinya, akhirnya kebuka sih kemaren cuman lebih lama.

o ya aku pakai sata spinner 1/2 inch pakai ring ratchet 19mm, enak juga karena jadi low profile.... cuman ya ga reversible harus copot dan dibalik..... dan sata pakai o ring buat tahannnya lumayan nyebelin juga

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:21 Iya kyk buka baut ban mobil tuh :upss:
Pk bawaan asli mobil

Ngencenginnya di kisaran 110Nm klo ane.
aerio di 85 Nm
pansah di 108 Nm

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singachu wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:33
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:15 Ancer2 aj mbah

3/8 gigi alus umum nya up to 70an newton, walaupun snap on konon katanya bsa 96 newton (ukuran kekencengan baut roda agya ayla)

3/8 gigi kasar, sdikit lebi tinggi newton nya

1/2 gigi alus bsa 100an newton umumnya

1/2 gigi kasar, ini bsa ampir 200 newton, kl yerman kaya si mbah masas ama mbah 69 punya, itu 360 newton (ud ckup kuat buat bongpas baut roda canter)

Btw

Tetep utk break open baut keras wajip breaker bar, trelek kl sering2 hajar baut keras jg lama2 jebol
mantap mbah :big_exellent: JTC tulisannya High Torque itu juga berlaku seperti itu newtonnya ?
Yang JTC 1/4 berapa tuh newtonnya ?

gigi kasar itu up to berapa teethnya ? 42 itungannya masih kasar kan ? (aku krasanya sih kasar hahahaha)

noted mbah berarti 3/8 gigi alus jangan buat buka lugnut ya hahahhaha.....

iya breakerbar tetep buat breakloose sih, cuman ya itu kadang spacenya agak ribet.
pakai impact jld ga masuk, pakai joint impact yang kayak balljoint eh banyak abis torsinya, akhirnya kebuka sih kemaren cuman lebih lama.

o ya aku pakai sata spinner 1/2 inch pakai ring ratchet 19mm, enak juga karena jadi low profile.... cuman ya ga reversible harus copot dan dibalik..... dan sata pakai o ring buat tahannnya lumayan nyebelin juga

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angka2 yg saya sebut tsb cuman buat ancer2 aj mbah

tiap trelek bsa beda2

tu kaya trelek nya mbah 69 ama mbah masas yg yerman made, ud setara breaker bar itu

bandingin ama trelek kenmaster atau tekiro, pasti ud mrotol duluan kl dihajar torsi yg sama


gigi kasar biasa yg dbawah 60 teeth, kisaran 30-40an lah

sebenernya ada satu lg yg nentuin kekuatan si trelek, yaitu mekanisme locking pawl nya.. beda jenis, beda pula kekuatan nya
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:51
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:34
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:31
sy silent reader di sini :weekk:
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ada atf temp? perasaan ga ada sensornya deh. itu pake software apa?

hmm iat kalo di sy tinggi bgt, curiga sensornya ngawur nih.