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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23

110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya


hondut mayoritas 108nm buat lug nut.
pan ada di buku.....
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:21
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:15

Ancer2 aj mbah

3/8 gigi alus umum nya up to 70an newton, walaupun snap on konon katanya bsa 96 newton (ukuran kekencengan baut roda agya ayla)

3/8 gigi kasar, sdikit lebi tinggi newton nya

1/2 gigi alus bsa 100an newton umumnya

1/2 gigi kasar, ini bsa ampir 200 newton, kl yerman kaya si mbah masas ama mbah 69 punya, itu 360 newton (ud ckup kuat buat bongpas baut roda canter)

Btw

Tetep utk break open baut keras wajip breaker bar, trelek kl sering2 hajar baut keras jg lama2 jebol
Iya kyk buka baut ban mobil tuh :upss:
Pk bawaan asli mobil

Ngencenginnya di kisaran 110Nm klo ane.
110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya
Doi katanya 108
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udie_kidz wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 21:19 Trelek2 ajaib dah pada nongol semuaa.. :mky_04:

Ayo mbah2ku giliran soket2 nya di posting semua biar ceept part 12 hehe

Mumpung lagi nabung & hunting soket 3/8 :big_childish:




kalo yang setengah, adanya cuman ini....


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12pt dan etorx.
yang deepwall ukuran 17mm, 19mm, 21mm buat lug nut.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:27
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23

110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya


hondut mayoritas 108nm buat lug nut.
pan ada di buku.....
Tu kan bener ktinggian

Standard 108 newton tu berarti di tarik pake pipa 50 senti ama 1 kenek ceking ampe ngek skali ud ckup
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:15
1/2 gigi kasar, ini bsa ampir 200 newton, kl yerman kaya si mbah masas ama mbah 69 punya, itu 360 newton (ud ckup kuat buat bongpas baut roda canter)

Btw

Tetep utk break open baut keras wajip breaker bar, trelek kl sering2 hajar baut keras jg lama2 jebol



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ini 72t lho mbah... buat crack open, kalo tau caranya pasti perkakas aman kok.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:39
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:15
1/2 gigi kasar, ini bsa ampir 200 newton, kl yerman kaya si mbah masas ama mbah 69 punya, itu 360 newton (ud ckup kuat buat bongpas baut roda canter)

Btw

Tetep utk break open baut keras wajip breaker bar, trelek kl sering2 hajar baut keras jg lama2 jebol




IMG_20220908_093634.jpg




ini 72t lho mbah... buat crack open, kalo tau caranya pasti perkakas aman kok.
Tinggi jg yah

Buka baut kruk as honda enteng tuh

Btw

Itu 72 teeth tp yerman punya mbah, pantes bsa dia
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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ada kalanya butuh break free, selama ini kalau baut kaki2 keluarin breaker bar 1/2 cuman karena di ruang roda ada kalanya susah-susah gampang kalau pas dipanjangin gara2 sudut kerjanya terbatas..... jadi pingin ratchet lagi yang hitorque..... cuman ga jelas ini ratchet2 1/2 atau 3/8 ambang batas amannya berapa torsinya.....

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selama ini saya pake ratchet 3/8" buat crack open maksimal soket 15mm. kalo udah minta soket 16mm keatas, pake dr.1/2".
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:32
marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:27
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23

110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya


hondut mayoritas 108nm buat lug nut.
pan ada di buku.....
Tu kan bener ktinggian

Standard 108 newton tu berarti di tarik pake pipa 50 senti ama 1 kenek ceking ampe ngek skali ud ckup
selisih 2Nm atau 0.2 kgfm
atau dikasih panjang 20cm, berarti x5 powah
kyk dikasih beban 1kg untuk panjang trelek 20cm

kyk klimaks lbh cepet aja mbah :ngacir:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:21
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:15

Ancer2 aj mbah

3/8 gigi alus umum nya up to 70an newton, walaupun snap on konon katanya bsa 96 newton (ukuran kekencengan baut roda agya ayla)

3/8 gigi kasar, sdikit lebi tinggi newton nya

1/2 gigi alus bsa 100an newton umumnya

1/2 gigi kasar, ini bsa ampir 200 newton, kl yerman kaya si mbah masas ama mbah 69 punya, itu 360 newton (ud ckup kuat buat bongpas baut roda canter)

Btw

Tetep utk break open baut keras wajip breaker bar, trelek kl sering2 hajar baut keras jg lama2 jebol
Iya kyk buka baut ban mobil tuh :upss:
Pk bawaan asli mobil

Ngencenginnya di kisaran 110Nm klo ane.
110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya
udah bener segitu mbah. 108Nm atau 110 no problem
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:13
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:21
Iya kyk buka baut ban mobil tuh :upss:
Pk bawaan asli mobil

Ngencenginnya di kisaran 110Nm klo ane.
110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya
udah bener segitu mbah. 108Nm atau 110 no problem
Yeee
Dbkin takut sikit mbah, biar panik gt :upss:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:14
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:13
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23

110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya
udah bener segitu mbah. 108Nm atau 110 no problem
Yeee
Dbkin takut sikit mbah, biar panik gt :upss:
gak kena.. gak kena.. :big_weee:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:14
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:13
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:23

110 ? Ktinggian tu mbah

Coba tanya mbah masas deh, biasa kasi brapa tu buat GK5 nya
udah bener segitu mbah. 108Nm atau 110 no problem
Yeee
Dbkin takut sikit mbah, biar panik gt :upss:
mbah surya kayanya belom pernah posting tw nya tuh ..... tau dr mana dia 110Nm gitu :big_think:

kl main ke tret penyamun ini kan wajib posting tools. tul ga tul gaa .... :big_grin:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:04
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 0:04
singachu wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 19:50
mohon wejangannya yang berlimpah ratchetnya, kenapa butuh banyak ? :big_smoking:

kalau aku gara2 thread ini...


regards,
singachu
kl ai gara2 keseringan beli set (krn ngejar mata soketnya yg 6pt dan 12pt), tanpa disadari ratchet jd numpuk. n sadar kl semuanya varian standar yg pendek itu, kl mau yg aneh2 kaya extendable, rotator, bent, atau flexhead hrs beli terpisah. akhirnya tambah numpuk.
Kl mau d garage sale

Kita orang siap nampung mbah :mky_03:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:27
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:14
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:13

udah bener segitu mbah. 108Nm atau 110 no problem
Yeee
Dbkin takut sikit mbah, biar panik gt :upss:
mbah surya kayanya belom pernah posting tw nya tuh ..... tau dr mana dia 110Nm gitu :big_think:

kl main ke tret penyamun ini kan wajib posting tools. tul ga tul gaa .... :big_grin:
sy silent reader di sini :weekk:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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singachu wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 0:41
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 0:04
kl ai gara2 keseringan beli set (krn ngejar mata soketnya yg 6pt dan 12pt), tanpa disadari ratchet jd numpuk. n sadar kl semuanya varian standar yg pendek itu, kl mau yg aneh2 kaya extendable, rotator, bent, atau flexhead hrs beli terpisah. akhirnya tambah numpuk.
ai baru nyadar kalau flexhead itu enak banget, sedangkan yang ai punya flexhead cuman krisbow 3/8 teeth kalau aku itung cuman 47an.
Kurang tau juga ini termasuk kuat seberapa untuk torsinya....
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 0:11 btw ai lg otw ratchet baru lagi :ungg:

1/4 flexhead long handle 26cm.
wih 1/4 flex dan 26 cm...... bocorin jepun apa yurop om :big_love:

ada kalanya butuh break free, selama ini kalau baut kaki2 keluarin breaker bar 1/2 cuman karena di ruang roda ada kalanya susah-susah gampang kalau pas dipanjangin gara2 sudut kerjanya terbatas..... jadi pingin ratchet lagi yang hitorque..... cuman ga jelas ini ratchet2 1/2 atau 3/8 ambang batas amannya berapa torsinya.....

regards,
singachu
bukan jepun bukan yurop. tepatnya murica mbah :mky_03: .... tp bukan american tool melainkan Snap On TLLF72 flexhead fine tooth kaya di video ini menit ke 27:00 dan 29:00 :big_blushing:

kata eric o. dia pake buat crack loose baut 100 lbft (135Nm) pake sambungan pipa segala tp tahan :big_chicken:


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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:27
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:14
Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:13

udah bener segitu mbah. 108Nm atau 110 no problem
Yeee
Dbkin takut sikit mbah, biar panik gt :upss:
mbah surya kayanya belom pernah posting tw nya tuh ..... tau dr mana dia 110Nm gitu :big_think:

kl main ke tret penyamun ini kan wajib posting tools. tul ga tul gaa .... :big_grin:
Biasaa....

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:31
sy silent reader di sini :weekk:
ga boleh mbah. pamali. bisa hernia 7 turunan kl ga posting. :upss: :upss:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:34
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:31
sy silent reader di sini :weekk:
ga boleh mbah. pamali. bisa hernia 7 turunan kl ga posting. :upss: :upss:
Worst case

Bruba haluan jd kaya penghuni TL

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mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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marmut wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:39
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:15
1/2 gigi kasar, ini bsa ampir 200 newton, kl yerman kaya si mbah masas ama mbah 69 punya, itu 360 newton (ud ckup kuat buat bongpas baut roda canter)

Btw

Tetep utk break open baut keras wajip breaker bar, trelek kl sering2 hajar baut keras jg lama2 jebol




IMG_20220908_093634.jpg




ini 72t lho mbah... buat crack open, kalo tau caranya pasti perkakas aman kok.
ini mah klimaksnya ampe duduk di atas batangnya jg baru ngeklik :big_biglaugh:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 3:09

selisih 2Nm atau 0.2 kgfm
atau dikasih panjang 20cm, berarti x5 powah
kyk dikasih beban 1kg untuk panjang trelek 20cm

kyk klimaks lbh cepet aja mbah :ngacir:


2nm itu teorinya.

tapi prakteknya kita nggak tau seberapa sempurna baut roda saat dibikin. kan nggak mungkin selesai baut roda dibikin trus dicek ultrasound satu per satu. bisa jereng plus belekan mata pengawasnya ngeliatin ratusan jutaan baut roda....

kita nggak tau ada crack halus apa enggak, ada bubble apa enggak didalem badan baut.
belum lagi itu baut udah berapa kali bongkar pasang dan tiap kali dikencengin sampe ulir kena beban 110nm apa masih bisa nahan kelebihan yang 2nm itu?
kalo sampe saat pembuatan ada bubble di dalem badan baut, trus sekarang kena torsi kelebihan 2nm, resiko baut mendadak patah kan bisa......

coleh mbah
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DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:37

Worst case

Bruba haluan jd kaya penghuni TL

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:46 mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
pasti dipake mantau suhu coolant ya mbah? :big_peace:
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blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:41
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:46 mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
pasti dipake mantau suhu coolant ya mbah? :big_peace:
Coolant temp gak worry saya,
Fan radiator aman dan coolant ganti tiap tahun di reservoir jg :big_biglaugh:

Cuma concern mantau atf temp
Dgn gaya drivinv klo nanjak" dan gas rada poll gmn

Cvt ini soalnya :upss:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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blloewy wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:41
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:46 mbah suhu mo nanya,

pernah nyoba gak?
klo nyolok obd reader (wifi to hp) terus"an efek samping nya apa?

soalnya "read only" ini kan
pasti dipake mantau suhu coolant ya mbah? :big_peace:


ada yang nanya malah ditanya lagi.....

srimulat.

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