Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 15

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Turboman wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:26 Omega oli = Magna Grup HK kan ?

Kalo Omega yg skg lagi happeningimages%20-%202022-04-20T102552.391.jpg
iya magna group mbah.
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DrivingPotato wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 13:50
Omnibus wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:57

mau coba eksperimen ga om ...

pake q8 7700 10w30 sebanyak 7L (7x100rb) ditambah additive Omega 909 (bukan 909E ya) sebanyak 350mL (harga 350rb). dgn tambahan additive bakal ada di rentang sae 35 lah kurleb.
nah total cost kira2 1.100.000 per gantol.

kayanya 10rb km sanggup ini.

link beli omega literan: klik disini

link eceran 100mL an: klik disini

*sy belom pernah pake 909 tp ini udah terkenal dr jaman jebot. tp kl grease nya sy pake n bagus menurut sy. merk UK tp dilisensi produksi di korea.
Mbah.. saya juga gapernah denger brand Omega itu. Kayanya saya terlalu muda :big_biglaugh:
Lihat ketikan di deskripsi toko nya semacam yg jual juga ud berumur, pake format ketikan bold & italic di whatsapp. Hahahaha.

Btw, biasanya kan mbah sendiri yang bereksperimen. Saya khusus mobil kaki ini gantol nya males ribet2 mbah, diserahin ke bengkel langganan yg sedianya 3 merk itu. Wkwkwk.

Nah krn mbah di atas sempet nyebut yg ESP, kalo Delvac 1 yg biasa ini setaranya sama apa ya?
Omega. Ingat dulu papa saya kalau kasih oli 2t di yamaha v80 selalu dikasih ini. Dan saat saya masih SMP, saya pake tuh motor sampe oli 2t habis dan saya nggak tahu. Dan nggak ngejim mesinnya. Omega memang maknyus :big_smoking:
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sintoni wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:35
TBN tinggi2 jg buat apa? Overkill jg itu 12.
Kalo saya tiap hari masih pakai biosolar yang kadar sulfurnya masih ga tentu sama di tiap SPBU ya jelas masih mempertimbangkan TBN om buat long drain. Ya oke skrg TBN ga akan turun banyak2 seiring pemakaian kalo dapet solar bagus terus, lha tiap ngisi kan tapi kita gak ngerti kualitas solarnya seperti apa. Main aman aja sih saya. Toh ini saya liat spec TBN dll kan cuma utk nanya perbandingan oli ini selevel sama apa, apakah yg OE atau yg SS :mky_03: Kalo tinggi2 buat apa coba nanya ke produsennya :big_biglaugh:
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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:41
Or4cle wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 23:33 Valve train di 265.000 Km : Oli merk "ono" 5W30 (versi pahe), OCI 8000 Km - 10.000 Km, BBM pertalite, average 20 KM/daily dalkot ... Ada sedikit kerak hitam, PVC valve mampet ???
bersih mbah, cuma kerak hitam dikit doang pake kain majun sama degreaser/carb clean di lap aja bisa kayanya.

cam lobe nya difoto ga? pengen liat.
Oalahh, lupa minta mekanik setel di posisi TOP buat fotoin cam lobe. Next service akan saya fotoin :big_okay:
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DrivingPotato wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:45
sintoni wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:35
TBN tinggi2 jg buat apa? Overkill jg itu 12.
Kalo saya tiap hari masih pakai biosolar yang kadar sulfurnya masih ga tentu sama di tiap SPBU ya jelas masih mempertimbangkan TBN om buat long drain. Ya oke skrg TBN ga akan turun banyak2 seiring pemakaian kalo dapet solar bagus terus, lha tiap ngisi kan tapi kita gak ngerti kualitas solarnya seperti apa. Main aman aja sih saya. Toh ini saya liat spec TBN dll kan cuma utk nanya perbandingan oli ini selevel sama apa, apakah yg OE atau yg SS :mky_03: Kalo tinggi2 buat apa coba nanya ke produsennya :big_biglaugh:
TBN skrg 10 aja udah lebih dari cukup buat biosolar jaman skrg, sulfur sudah menurun jauh dibanding dulu2.

Skrg OCI berapa lama sekali?
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Kadar sulphur BioSol th 2021

Rata2 sekitar 600 - 900 ppm lah range nya
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Masih ngomongin biosol?
Masa kalah sama truck kebersihan :big_biglaugh:

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DrivingPotato wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 14:23
t105erd wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 14:12
Mantul, thx infonya gan, soalnya ga ada official store yah, kalo PTT, Total, Shell dll kan ada tuh.
Iya om, namanya nggak pakai Pertamina, pakai nama Sadikun (distri resmi Pertamina Lubricants). Kalo dikletek label botol biasanya ada emboss sadikun.
Fastron Techno Biru, sama PTT 5W-30 syntecplus plih mana yaa? lagi galau menentukan oli yang murmer crot, biasanya cuma castrol/TMO/Fastron ijo aja. Thx.
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DrivingPotato wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:34
evanbngdor wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:29 Iya betul mbah, temen2 yg pake GD apalagi udah modip pasti rata-rata pake nya 5w-40 bukan 5w-30 lg. Thermostat jg beberapa udah ganti pake yg 76c.

Ada yg punya 2GD i-ART itu baru dtg langsung pasang piggyback, oli mesin pake TMO Diesel 5w-30, jalan 7rb km itu di dipstick tinggal setengah, akhirnya migrasi ke Delvac1 deh
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Apalagi kalo udah remap om, pake 5W-40 jg gak kerasa berat gimana2. 2GD i-ART saya pake Delvac 1 yg Singapore ini udah cukup adem suaranya sih, kalo sblmnya masih ngikut Toyota dituangin TMO rasanya gak karu-karuan dan nguap loh. Sy sendiri dah ga manut manual book yg sarankan 5W-30 karena emang suara jauh lebih halus pake 5W-40 plus tarikannya gak beda jauh. Delvac 1 di saya jalan 9000rb KM mulai kasar mungkin karena emang sering stop n go & jadi genset juga, BBM biosolar terus. So far masih puas.
9rb mulai kasar sih ya msh OK lah kalo di 2GD apalagi udah remap. Mungkin kalau pake 5w-40 di GD itu ya konsumsi solar nya aja yg jd agak boros dikit tp mestinya ngga signifikan.
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Lagi meraba-raba oli 0w20 lagi

Pilihannya:
1. Aisin Greentech 0w20 70rb/botol
2. Total Quartz 9000 0w20 120rb/botol

Enakan mana saudara-saudara? Buat yang pernah cobain, review dong 😁
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lawyerone wrote:Lagi meraba-raba oli 0w20 lagi

Pilihannya:
1. Aisin Greentech 0w20 70rb/botol
2. Total Quartz 9000 0w20 120rb/botol

Enakan mana saudara-saudara? Buat yang pernah cobain, review dong [emoji16]
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lawyerone wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:29 Lagi meraba-raba oli 0w20 lagi

Pilihannya:
1. Aisin Greentech 0w20 70rb/botol
2. Total Quartz 9000 0w20 120rb/botol

Enakan mana saudara-saudara? Buat yang pernah cobain, review dong 😁
ud perna 2 2 nya

coba di inofa, hrv ama agya

2 2 nya sama aj kl saya blg , oli kelas murmer gini

cuman aisin lebi less suara ngeglitik aj ktimbang total
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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lawyerone wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:29 Lagi meraba-raba oli 0w20 lagi

Pilihannya:
1. Aisin Greentech 0w20 70rb/botol
2. Total Quartz 9000 0w20 120rb/botol

Enakan mana saudara-saudara? Buat yang pernah cobain, review dong 😁
Kalo budget masuk di 120rb / liter boleh cb lirik Mobil Super All in One protection 0w-20. Saya pake itu di CRV R20, so far so good sih, ngga ada penguapan jg.
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lawyerone wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:29 Lagi meraba-raba oli 0w20 lagi

Pilihannya:
1. Aisin Greentech 0w20 70rb/botol
2. Total Quartz 9000 0w20 120rb/botol

Enakan mana saudara-saudara? Buat yang pernah cobain, review dong 😁
Budget segitu dapet oli kerangnya astra juga tuh dari SnD
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om permisi mau tny lagi,,mobil saya tucson 2011 127000++ Km, pemakaian daily 30 - 50 km/hari dalam kota stop & go,,memakai Amsoil 5 30 OE

1. lagi galau pilih oli,,butuh oli yg punya proteksi baik dan tahan panas

mungkin om om expert bisa bantu memilih di antara:
- Amsoil oe 5 30
- Q8 longlife 5 30 Dexos II
- motul specific 5 30


2. semenjak pakai AMSoil oe,,mesin ada suara knocking di RPM 2000 an,,entah karena oli atau yg lainya, bahan bakar selalu pertamax dan sudah tune up + carbon clean pun,,knocking akan balik,,mgkn ada pencerahan?

makasi mohon bantuan nya
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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:37
ams ss maxduty malah cuma 10 koma tbn nya om

memang delvac 1 truk pesen udah cukup tinggi tp kl bicara long drain mungkin additive nya msh dibawah yg esp yg emang utk long drain. utk acea nya msh E7 sementara yg kelas long drain pasti E9 nya. trus coba bandingin spec nya ke beberapa pabrikan. contohnya di link itu yg Del1 truk pesek spec volvo nya baru vds 3, kl di esp mungkin udah vds 4 atau 4.5. trus kl ada bandingin ke scania nya juga, ke deutz diesel juga kl yg biasa DQC-III sementara yg long drain DQC-IV. kl spec mercedes cari yg 228.51, kl msh 228.31 berarti msh kelas biasa.
dr baca2 yg udah2 sih si volvo punya yg paling stringent persyaratannya. kl dpt spec volvo vds 4.5 itu paling wokeh.

nah perkara oli long drain mau dipake beneran long drain atau engga kan terserah user. cuma secara spek udah pasti yg long drain lbh bagus drpd yg biasa.
Delvac 1 truk pesek MB-Approval 228.5 om, yang ESP 5W40 malah MB-Approval 228.31

Delvac 1 truk pesek ACEA E4 om. Bukannya untuk kendaraan tanpa DPF malah bagusan E4 daripada E9 ya om ?

E4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing excellent control of piston cleanliness, wear, soot handling and lubricant
stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V
emission requirements and running under very severe conditions, e.g. significantly extended oil drain intervals
according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is suitable for engines without particulate filters, and for
some EGR engines and some engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. However, recommendations may
differ between engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers shall be consulted if in doubt.


E9 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing effective control with respect to piston cleanliness and bore polishing. It further
provides excellent wear control, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel
engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV, Euro V and Euro VI emission requirements and running under
severe conditions, e.g. extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is
suitable for engines with or without particulate filters, and for most EGR engines and for most engines fitted with
SCR NOx reduction systems. E9 is strongly recommended for engines fitted with particulate filters and is
designed for use in combination with low Sulphur diesel fuel. However, recommendations may differ between
engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers should be consulted if in doubt
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Conceptu wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:33 om permisi mau tny lagi,,mobil saya tucson 2011 127000++ Km, pemakaian daily 30 - 50 km/hari dalam kota stop & go,,memakai Amsoil 5 30 OE

1. lagi galau pilih oli,,butuh oli yg punya proteksi baik dan tahan panas

mungkin om om expert bisa bantu memilih di antara:
- Amsoil oe 5 30
- Q8 longlife 5 30 Dexos II
- motul specific 5 30


2. semenjak pakai AMSoil oe,,mesin ada suara knocking di RPM 2000 an,,entah karena oli atau yg lainya, bahan bakar selalu pertamax dan sudah tune up + carbon clean pun,,knocking akan balik,,mgkn ada pencerahan?

makasi mohon bantuan nya
Coba aja Q8 G Long life (dexos 2) itu olinya lumayan tahan panas, sampe ada di catalog racingnya Q8. Tapi gak menjamin bisa nyembuhin knockingnya ye
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snoepje wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:34
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:37
ams ss maxduty malah cuma 10 koma tbn nya om

memang delvac 1 truk pesen udah cukup tinggi tp kl bicara long drain mungkin additive nya msh dibawah yg esp yg emang utk long drain. utk acea nya msh E7 sementara yg kelas long drain pasti E9 nya. trus coba bandingin spec nya ke beberapa pabrikan. contohnya di link itu yg Del1 truk pesek spec volvo nya baru vds 3, kl di esp mungkin udah vds 4 atau 4.5. trus kl ada bandingin ke scania nya juga, ke deutz diesel juga kl yg biasa DQC-III sementara yg long drain DQC-IV. kl spec mercedes cari yg 228.51, kl msh 228.31 berarti msh kelas biasa.
dr baca2 yg udah2 sih si volvo punya yg paling stringent persyaratannya. kl dpt spec volvo vds 4.5 itu paling wokeh.

nah perkara oli long drain mau dipake beneran long drain atau engga kan terserah user. cuma secara spek udah pasti yg long drain lbh bagus drpd yg biasa.
Delvac 1 truk pesek MB-Approval 228.5 om, yang ESP 5W40 malah MB-Approval 228.31

Delvac 1 truk pesek ACEA E4 om. Bukannya untuk kendaraan tanpa DPF malah bagusan E4 daripada E9 ya om ?

E4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing excellent control of piston cleanliness, wear, soot handling and lubricant
stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V
emission requirements and running under very severe conditions, e.g. significantly extended oil drain intervals
according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is suitable for engines without particulate filters, and for
some EGR engines and some engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. However, recommendations may
differ between engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers shall be consulted if in doubt.


E9 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing effective control with respect to piston cleanliness and bore polishing. It further
provides excellent wear control, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel
engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV, Euro V and Euro VI emission requirements and running under
severe conditions, e.g. extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is
suitable for engines with or without particulate filters, and for most EGR engines and for most engines fitted with
SCR NOx reduction systems. E9 is strongly recommended for engines fitted with particulate filters and is
designed for use in combination with low Sulphur diesel fuel. However, recommendations may differ between
engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers should be consulted if in doubt
E4 buat solarbusuk lebih bagus terutama buat mobil barang yang jalan puluhan ribu kilometer, kalo buat mobil passanger mah beti lah cuma pake 10rb, tbn 10 udah cukup. Salah satu requirementnya E4 kalo ga salah tbn>12. Kalo E9 tbn>10.
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sahabatq8 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:51
snoepje wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:34
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:37
ams ss maxduty malah cuma 10 koma tbn nya om

memang delvac 1 truk pesen udah cukup tinggi tp kl bicara long drain mungkin additive nya msh dibawah yg esp yg emang utk long drain. utk acea nya msh E7 sementara yg kelas long drain pasti E9 nya. trus coba bandingin spec nya ke beberapa pabrikan. contohnya di link itu yg Del1 truk pesek spec volvo nya baru vds 3, kl di esp mungkin udah vds 4 atau 4.5. trus kl ada bandingin ke scania nya juga, ke deutz diesel juga kl yg biasa DQC-III sementara yg long drain DQC-IV. kl spec mercedes cari yg 228.51, kl msh 228.31 berarti msh kelas biasa.
dr baca2 yg udah2 sih si volvo punya yg paling stringent persyaratannya. kl dpt spec volvo vds 4.5 itu paling wokeh.

nah perkara oli long drain mau dipake beneran long drain atau engga kan terserah user. cuma secara spek udah pasti yg long drain lbh bagus drpd yg biasa.
Delvac 1 truk pesek MB-Approval 228.5 om, yang ESP 5W40 malah MB-Approval 228.31

Delvac 1 truk pesek ACEA E4 om. Bukannya untuk kendaraan tanpa DPF malah bagusan E4 daripada E9 ya om ?

E4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing excellent control of piston cleanliness, wear, soot handling and lubricant
stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V
emission requirements and running under very severe conditions, e.g. significantly extended oil drain intervals
according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is suitable for engines without particulate filters, and for
some EGR engines and some engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. However, recommendations may
differ between engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers shall be consulted if in doubt.


E9 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing effective control with respect to piston cleanliness and bore polishing. It further
provides excellent wear control, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel
engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV, Euro V and Euro VI emission requirements and running under
severe conditions, e.g. extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is
suitable for engines with or without particulate filters, and for most EGR engines and for most engines fitted with
SCR NOx reduction systems. E9 is strongly recommended for engines fitted with particulate filters and is
designed for use in combination with low Sulphur diesel fuel. However, recommendations may differ between
engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers should be consulted if in doubt
E4 buat solarbusuk lebih bagus terutama buat mobil barang yang jalan puluhan ribu kilometer, kalo buat mobil passanger mah beti lah cuma pake 10rb, tbn 10 udah cukup. Salah satu requirementnya E4 kalo ga salah tbn>12. Kalo E9 tbn>10.
Nah temen yg pengamat oli jg bilang hal yg sama nih makanya selalu pake yg delvac truk pesek.

Q8 T670 5w-40 ngga masuk Indo ya, padahal seri T itu OK pengalaman saya dulu berapa puluh ribu KM selalu setia pake Q8 T800, sayangnya 10w-40 aja
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evanbngdor wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:03
Nah temen yg pengamat oli jg bilang hal yg sama nih makanya selalu pake yg delvac truk pesek.

Q8 T670 5w-40 ngga masuk Indo ya, padahal seri T itu OK pengalaman saya dulu berapa puluh ribu KM selalu setia pake Q8 T800, sayangnya 10w-40 aja
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Gak rencana masukin sih om , soalnya yang T670 itu walaupun 5w-40 kelasnya dibawah Q8 T800 untuk diesel. Malahan udah ada yang lebih bagus yaitu excel 5w40, excel long life 5w40 , dan excel long life 0w40.
Kalo yang sebenernya mantep buntut w40 ada Q8 Formula Truck 8610 10W-40, diesel kelas sultan. Cuma masalahnya cuma drum -druman gak ada literan/galon.
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sahabatq8 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:22
evanbngdor wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:03
Nah temen yg pengamat oli jg bilang hal yg sama nih makanya selalu pake yg delvac truk pesek.

Q8 T670 5w-40 ngga masuk Indo ya, padahal seri T itu OK pengalaman saya dulu berapa puluh ribu KM selalu setia pake Q8 T800, sayangnya 10w-40 aja
:mky_01:
Gak rencana masukin sih om , soalnya yang T670 itu walaupun 5w-40 kelasnya dibawah Q8 T800 untuk diesel. Malahan udah ada yang lebih bagus yaitu excel 5w40, excel long life 5w40 , dan excel long life 0w40.
Kalo yang sebenernya mantep buntut w40 ada Q8 Formula Truck 8610 10W-40, diesel kelas sultan. Cuma masalahnya cuma drum -druman gak ada literan/galon.
Nah Excel long life 5w-40 pernah pake tuh 1x, sayangnya dipake 7rb km suara mesin mulai meriah. Mungkin kurang bisa di-abuse di mesin 2KD ya
:mky_01:

Q8 T800 jg dulu kendala nya jg cuma kemasan sih, beli 1 jerigen kurang, beli 2 jerigen pasti nyimpen sisanya
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 15

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sahabatq8 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:22
evanbngdor wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:03
Nah temen yg pengamat oli jg bilang hal yg sama nih makanya selalu pake yg delvac truk pesek.

Q8 T670 5w-40 ngga masuk Indo ya, padahal seri T itu OK pengalaman saya dulu berapa puluh ribu KM selalu setia pake Q8 T800, sayangnya 10w-40 aja
:mky_01:
Gak rencana masukin sih om , soalnya yang T670 itu walaupun 5w-40 kelasnya dibawah Q8 T800 untuk diesel. Malahan udah ada yang lebih bagus yaitu excel 5w40, excel long life 5w40 , dan excel long life 0w40.
Kalo yang sebenernya mantep buntut w40 ada Q8 Formula Truck 8610 10W-40, diesel kelas sultan. Cuma masalahnya cuma drum -druman gak ada literan/galon.
om, Q8 T8610 klo gt cocok tuh buat warga SM pencinta 2KD.
Kalau OM yg masukin kita ngga khawatir oli palsu, repack aja. Kalau beli drum di repack kan harga bisa bersaing, kapan lagi nyobain oli sultan harga rakyat? :big_peace:
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 15

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snoepje wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:34
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:37
ams ss maxduty malah cuma 10 koma tbn nya om

memang delvac 1 truk pesen udah cukup tinggi tp kl bicara long drain mungkin additive nya msh dibawah yg esp yg emang utk long drain. utk acea nya msh E7 sementara yg kelas long drain pasti E9 nya. trus coba bandingin spec nya ke beberapa pabrikan. contohnya di link itu yg Del1 truk pesek spec volvo nya baru vds 3, kl di esp mungkin udah vds 4 atau 4.5. trus kl ada bandingin ke scania nya juga, ke deutz diesel juga kl yg biasa DQC-III sementara yg long drain DQC-IV. kl spec mercedes cari yg 228.51, kl msh 228.31 berarti msh kelas biasa.
dr baca2 yg udah2 sih si volvo punya yg paling stringent persyaratannya. kl dpt spec volvo vds 4.5 itu paling wokeh.

nah perkara oli long drain mau dipake beneran long drain atau engga kan terserah user. cuma secara spek udah pasti yg long drain lbh bagus drpd yg biasa.
Delvac 1 truk pesek MB-Approval 228.5 om, yang ESP 5W40 malah MB-Approval 228.31

Delvac 1 truk pesek ACEA E4 om. Bukannya untuk kendaraan tanpa DPF malah bagusan E4 daripada E9 ya om ?

E4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing excellent control of piston cleanliness, wear, soot handling and lubricant
stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V
emission requirements and running under very severe conditions, e.g. significantly extended oil drain intervals
according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is suitable for engines without particulate filters, and for
some EGR engines and some engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. However, recommendations may
differ between engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers shall be consulted if in doubt.


E9 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing effective control with respect to piston cleanliness and bore polishing. It further
provides excellent wear control, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel
engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV, Euro V and Euro VI emission requirements and running under
severe conditions, e.g. extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. It is
suitable for engines with or without particulate filters, and for most EGR engines and for most engines fitted with
SCR NOx reduction systems. E9 is strongly recommended for engines fitted with particulate filters and is
designed for use in combination with low Sulphur diesel fuel. However, recommendations may differ between
engine manufacturers so driver manuals and/or dealers should be consulted if in doubt
esp 5w30 yg mb 228.51

https://www.mobil.com/id-id/commercial- ... -esp-5w-30

mengenai E4 vs E9 ai ga terlalu pusingin om, pokoknya ai pake nya the best oil money can buy, udah pasti bagus ke mesin. :big_smile]
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 15

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evanbngdor wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:28
sahabatq8 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:22
evanbngdor wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:03
Nah temen yg pengamat oli jg bilang hal yg sama nih makanya selalu pake yg delvac truk pesek.

Q8 T670 5w-40 ngga masuk Indo ya, padahal seri T itu OK pengalaman saya dulu berapa puluh ribu KM selalu setia pake Q8 T800, sayangnya 10w-40 aja
:mky_01:
Gak rencana masukin sih om , soalnya yang T670 itu walaupun 5w-40 kelasnya dibawah Q8 T800 untuk diesel. Malahan udah ada yang lebih bagus yaitu excel 5w40, excel long life 5w40 , dan excel long life 0w40.
Kalo yang sebenernya mantep buntut w40 ada Q8 Formula Truck 8610 10W-40, diesel kelas sultan. Cuma masalahnya cuma drum -druman gak ada literan/galon.
Nah Excel long life 5w-40 pernah pake tuh 1x, sayangnya dipake 7rb km suara mesin mulai meriah. Mungkin kurang bisa di-abuse di mesin 2KD ya
:mky_01:

Q8 T800 jg dulu kendala nya jg cuma kemasan sih, beli 1 jerigen kurang, beli 2 jerigen pasti nyimpen sisanya
:mky_01:
Mungkin kalo sekarang kondisi biosolar sudah membaik lebih ok pake excel long life. Itu pas coba 7rb km kasar di tahun brapa?
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 15

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well wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:22
sahabatq8 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:22
evanbngdor wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:03
Nah temen yg pengamat oli jg bilang hal yg sama nih makanya selalu pake yg delvac truk pesek.

Q8 T670 5w-40 ngga masuk Indo ya, padahal seri T itu OK pengalaman saya dulu berapa puluh ribu KM selalu setia pake Q8 T800, sayangnya 10w-40 aja
:mky_01:
Gak rencana masukin sih om , soalnya yang T670 itu walaupun 5w-40 kelasnya dibawah Q8 T800 untuk diesel. Malahan udah ada yang lebih bagus yaitu excel 5w40, excel long life 5w40 , dan excel long life 0w40.
Kalo yang sebenernya mantep buntut w40 ada Q8 Formula Truck 8610 10W-40, diesel kelas sultan. Cuma masalahnya cuma drum -druman gak ada literan/galon.
om, Q8 T8610 klo gt cocok tuh buat warga SM pencinta 2KD.
Kalau OM yg masukin kita ngga khawatir oli palsu, repack aja. Kalau beli drum di repack kan harga bisa bersaing, kapan lagi nyobain oli sultan harga rakyat? :big_peace:
Sayangnya si Q8 drum sama literan/galon gak beda jauh harganya per liternya. Jadi kalo kita masukin kesini ya harga hetnya juga paling diatas 200rb seliter, masih kurang merakyat :mky_01:
Yang marketnya berkembang 5w30 sih, karena mobil yang agak baru juga rata rata udah pake 5w30. Ditambah lagi urusan SNI yang sekarang agak ga jelas ngurusnya gimana. Bos ane udah pasti gak mau kalo marketnya terbatas tapi harus ribet² repack.
Q8 bisa custom packaging sebenernya. Tapi harus makan quantity puluhan ribu liter setahun, berat juga kalo cuma 1 tipe. Makanya om, promosiin Q8 ke temen² biar produk Q8 makin terkenal dan masuk ke lebih banyak lagi bengkel Authorized :big_grin: