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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:54
blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:49 ...
Btw, kl NGK ada juga ngga ya berapa lama bertahan businya?
Semacam artikel denso ini.
ada. itu ngk iridium ix yg sy pake bilangnya bisa 40k-50k miles (x1.6 km)
kl gt yg laser platinum nya NGK di bawah itu ya mbah?
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blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:06
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:54
blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:49 ...
Btw, kl NGK ada juga ngga ya berapa lama bertahan businya?
Semacam artikel denso ini.
ada. itu ngk iridium ix yg sy pake bilangnya bisa 40k-50k miles (x1.6 km)
kl gt yg laser platinum nya NGK di bawah itu ya mbah?
malah baru tau ada laser platinum. ga tau lifespan nya mbah.

kl laser iridium lebih tahan.
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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:18
blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:06
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:54

ada. itu ngk iridium ix yg sy pake bilangnya bisa 40k-50k miles (x1.6 km)
kl gt yg laser platinum nya NGK di bawah itu ya mbah?
malah baru tau ada laser platinum. ga tau lifespan nya mbah.

kl laser iridium lebih tahan.
ada mbah businya LIVINA
khusus permintaan NISSAN ke NGK
si LZKAR6AP-11 itu, dan hanya bisa dipakai di Nissan Livina L10 ama L11.
Ngga tau kl ada laser iridiumnya dari NGK.
NGK bilang sich cm LZKAR6AP ini aja u Livina :big_biglaugh:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:25
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:18
blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:06

kl gt yg laser platinum nya NGK di bawah itu ya mbah?
malah baru tau ada laser platinum. ga tau lifespan nya mbah.

kl laser iridium lebih tahan.
ada mbah businya LIVINA
khusus permintaan NISSAN ke NGK
si LZKAR6AP-11 itu, dan hanya bisa dipakai di Nissan Livina L10 ama L11.
Ngga tau kl ada laser iridiumnya dari NGK.
NGK bilang sich cm LZKAR6AP ini aja u Livina :big_biglaugh:
ada pasti laser iridium nya. depannya ada huruf i nya jd ILZKAR6AP (mungkin ya)

ah yg platinum begitu waktu sy di nisin pernah beli. kl ga salah dulu utk teana j31 sama dgn inopa. ga enak2 amat. jauh lbh enak iridium. kadang ga usah ikutin bukman, yg penting mana yg enak aja, cold start gampang, hot start gampang, bensin irit, daya tahan lama, ga brebet2, berarti cocok.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:49 iya makanya Livina dikasi FX series aslinya
dan skrg rame yg jual FX Series Denso 1 set isi 4 harga 400 rb yg mana lbh murah dari IX Series.
Btw, kl NGK ada juga ngga ya berapa lama bertahan businya?
Semacam artikel denso ini.
Nah kadang kalau di manual book mobil cuman sebutin tipe denso aja, mau cari padanan heat range yang sama dengan NGK buat pengganti ini yang agak2 susah ya...
blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:55 nemu artikel ini untuk NGK

https://www.ngk.com/how-long-do-ngk-iri ... electrodes.
mantap mbah..... hmmm life expectationnya yang IX NGK lebih lama daripada Denso awalan i ya....

Pernah baca di mana lupa, ada yang beropini NGK lebih bagus dari Denso, ya ntah dasar opini-nya apa kurang jelas juga

Untuk mobil yang bawaannya nickel biasa, aku cenderung ganti busi berkala aja, murah dan ga sakit hati daripada beli busi iridium mahal eh ternyata ada foul dan harus diganti :big_grin:

Btw ya ntah perasaan aja atau gimana, itu busi kalau misal abis carbon clean pakai Engine Condioner dan busi dipasang ulang, ga lama kayak performa businya jadi jelek, tapi kalau pakai AMB proclean, baik2 saja.

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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:56
elraedrew wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:51 Kepala shock buat baut gardan pada pakai yg gimana ya ? Kayaknya agak susa ini pake shock 24 segi 6 atau ring 24. Lepas mulu, pegangannya dikit banget.. lagi beli shock 24 yg segi 12..
mata socketnya beli yg bagusan om. kl lepas mulu jangan paksa nanti slek, itu berarti mata socketnya yg ga presisi.

sy pake mata socket stahlwille 24mm ga ada masalah.
waini :frm_salut:

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Mau beli tools lg tp inget udah pensiun :big_bored:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:48

ada pasti laser iridium nya. depannya ada huruf i nya jd ILZKAR6AP (mungkin ya)

ah yg platinum begitu waktu sy di nisin pernah beli. kl ga salah dulu utk teana j31 sama dgn inopa. ga enak2 amat. jauh lbh enak iridium. kadang ga usah ikutin bukman, yg penting mana yg enak aja, cold start gampang, hot start gampang, bensin irit, daya tahan lama, ga brebet2, berarti cocok.
SAYANGNYA ngga ada Mbah.
NGK sendiri sdh bilang hanya keluarkan Laser Platinum aja LZKAR6AP.
Iridium pake type itu ngga ada :big_cry:
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yanuarra wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:06 Mau beli tools lg tp inget udah pensiun :big_bored:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:09
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:48

ada pasti laser iridium nya. depannya ada huruf i nya jd ILZKAR6AP (mungkin ya)

ah yg platinum begitu waktu sy di nisin pernah beli. kl ga salah dulu utk teana j31 sama dgn inopa. ga enak2 amat. jauh lbh enak iridium. kadang ga usah ikutin bukman, yg penting mana yg enak aja, cold start gampang, hot start gampang, bensin irit, daya tahan lama, ga brebet2, berarti cocok.
SAYANGNYA ngga ada Mbah.
NGK sendiri sdh bilang hanya keluarkan Laser Platinum aja LZKAR6AP.
Iridium pake type itu ngga ada :big_cry:
kl ai bakal coba ini

atau kl lg kebanyakan duit n lagi rela makan warteg drpd respang, ai bakal coba ini. harga yg ini per piece. sellernya langganan ai nih.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:56

mata socketnya beli yg bagusan om. kl lepas mulu jangan paksa nanti slek, itu berarti mata socketnya yg ga presisi.

sy pake mata socket stahlwille 24mm ga ada masalah.



lebih utama skill mbah.
jangan sampe gagang trelek kejepit sasis kejadian lagi.....







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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:45
Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:56

mata socketnya beli yg bagusan om. kl lepas mulu jangan paksa nanti slek, itu berarti mata socketnya yg ga presisi.

sy pake mata socket stahlwille 24mm ga ada masalah.



lebih utama skill mbah.
jangan sampe gagang trelek kejepit sasis kejadian lagi.....







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Skill mumpuni pakenya kenmastah ya slek jg :big_think:
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yanuarra wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:14

Skill mumpuni pakenya kenmastah ya slek jg :big_think:


kalo skill sudah mumpuni, ngga akan mau pake perkakas sembarangan karena tau resikonya.

:big_smile]
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marmut wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:20
yanuarra wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:14

Skill mumpuni pakenya kenmastah ya slek jg :big_think:


kalo skill sudah mumpuni, ngga akan mau pake perkakas sembarangan karena tau resikonya.

:big_smile]
Ya brti tuls jg sama pentingnya mbah :big_weee:
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singachu wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:19
blloewy wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 20:10 Btw, denso yg IX Series jg cm tahan 20 rb km dung meskipun dia twin tip iridium kaya IXEH20TT yg direkomen denso u livina gantiin FXEH20? :big_think:
kalau ngacu ke website denso sih semua yang kode busi awal i umur 20rb, termasuk IX series
DOHC wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 14:21 ASEMMM, PANTESANNN


btw makasih banget info nya mbah, berarti bukan krn mesin nya ga sehat, tp emg segitu umur nya

kl gt wes lgs skalian pake yg busi inofa lama yg nikel aj, sbiji cuman 15 rebu, tiap ceban km ganti jg ga pusing :upss: :upss:
kayaknya busi longlife itu akan terasa kelebihannya dibanding yang normal life itu buat mobil2 yang kalau buka busi harus berjuang dulu :big_childish:

cuman pansah 2019 juga dikasih busi denso iridum, untungnya double tip SC16HR11

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nah itulah blunder nya toyota mbah

1TR jg ga susah2 amat ganti busi nya, modal korsi dingklik jg ga ampe 20 menit klaar ganti busi , tp knapa malah dikasi busi longlife

skalinya honda, ga kalah blunder

brio, hrv, lio malah dikasi busi nikel, padahal posisi lobang coil ngadep firewall smua... tp aneh nya dgn enjin yg sama, di GE8 ama freed malah dikasi iridium
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:20
yanuarra wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:14

Skill mumpuni pakenya kenmastah ya slek jg :big_think:


kalo skill sudah mumpuni, ngga akan mau pake perkakas sembarangan karena tau resikonya.

:big_smile]
ahh ga slalu mbah

kita orang pe skill masi nubi ijo, tp ogah pake perkakas sembarang macam t3k1r0
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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DOHC wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:48

brio, hrv, lio malah dikasi busi nikel, padahal posisi lobang coil ngadep firewall smua... tp aneh nya dgn enjin yg sama, di GE8 ama freed malah dikasi iridium



brio hrv lio bongpas businya masih lebih bersahabat, ruang gerak masih ada.
kalo ge8 sama frit butuh jaws of life sama blander potong supaya ruang kerjanya lega.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:31
DOHC wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:48

brio, hrv, lio malah dikasi busi nikel, padahal posisi lobang coil ngadep firewall smua... tp aneh nya dgn enjin yg sama, di GE8 ama freed malah dikasi iridium



brio hrv lio bongpas businya masih lebih bersahabat, ruang gerak masih ada.
kalo ge8 sama frit butuh jaws of life sama blander potong supaya ruang kerjanya lega.
jd inget dulu kita orang pe ge8, tiap kl ganti busi, wajip mampir ke tempat masas (beneran) besokan nya
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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peringatan, bisa jadi bagi sebagian orang gambar berikut masuk kategori disturbing picture.
bila penasaran melanda, resiko tanggung sendiri...

















baru tadi sore gambar diambil dari seekor vios yang odometernya tertera 418353 kalau saya tidak salah baca.







IMG20220420155956.jpg
IMG20220420155820.jpg


menghabiskan lebih dari 1 kaleng karb kliner buat membersihkan sepotong trotel bodi....

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 14:45 peringatan, bisa jadi bagi sebagian orang gambar berikut masuk kategori disturbing picture.
bila penasaran melanda, resiko tanggung sendiri...

















baru tadi sore gambar diambil dari seekor vios yang odometernya tertera 418353 kalau saya tidak salah baca.








IMG20220420155956.jpg
IMG20220420155820.jpg



menghabiskan lebih dari 1 kaleng karb kliner buat membersihkan sepotong trotel bodi....

:big_bored:
Ini bukti ketangguhan dan kebandelan desain ala Atoyot atau ???
Jd inget yg minyak rem ngga pernah ganti sejak km 0 sampai 100 ribu sekian dan no complain sama rem nya :big_peace:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 14:45 peringatan, bisa jadi bagi sebagian orang gambar berikut masuk kategori disturbing picture.
bila penasaran melanda, resiko tanggung sendiri...

















baru tadi sore gambar diambil dari seekor vios yang odometernya tertera 418353 kalau saya tidak salah baca.








IMG20220420155956.jpg
IMG20220420155820.jpg



menghabiskan lebih dari 1 kaleng karb kliner buat membersihkan sepotong trotel bodi....

:big_bored:
buju buset .... itu kotoran udah jd fosil :mky_07:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 14:45 peringatan, bisa jadi bagi sebagian orang gambar berikut masuk kategori disturbing picture.
bila penasaran melanda, resiko tanggung sendiri...

baru tadi sore gambar diambil dari seekor vios yang odometernya tertera 418353 kalau saya tidak salah baca.

IMG20220420155956.jpg
IMG20220420155820.jpg


menghabiskan lebih dari 1 kaleng karb kliner buat membersihkan sepotong trotel bodi....

:big_bored:
nanya mbah

filter udara nya ggmana, perna diganti ga
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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blloewy wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 15:30
Ini bukti ketangguhan dan kebandelan desain ala Atoyot atau ???
Jd inget yg minyak rem ngga pernah ganti sejak km 0 sampai 100 ribu sekian dan no complain sama rem nya :big_peace:


tepatnya, bukti kebodohan dan kejorokan yang pake.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Omnibus wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 17:00

buju buset .... itu kotoran udah jd fosil :mky_07:


bikin bangkrut yang kaya gini. biasa sekaleng bisa ramerame, ini 1 tb sekaleng lebih.....

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:53

nanya mbah

filter udara nya ggmana, perna diganti ga


mungkin diganti setiap tahun kabisat.