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John ... i willing to laugh.. coz i thing may be there is a person won't understand what you saying (post) here ... even my previous posting he just reply thank you coz i wishing him to be rich .. ha ha ha.. .. better u translate for him. :lol:
johnlegend wrote:1. Checking tire pressure regularly; a small action can have big effects.
Tyre Preventive Maintenance - Economic and Safety Benefits

Most drivers are aware that tyre pressures are important but few realise the benefits of tyre preventive maintenance which are:
Economics

* Fuel consumption – under-inflated tyres have higher rolling resistance. A generally accepted estimate is that 20 per cent under inflation leads to 3 per cent higher fuel consumption
* Cost – wrongly inflated tyres wear more quickly

2. Riding with low r.p.m. by quick change into the highest appropriate gear. (Over Revving the Engine)

Modern engines are designed with engine management systems so they are efficient from the moment they are switched on. Thus there is no need to over-rev as it only wastes fuel and increases engine wear. Using your gears wisely by changing up a gear a little earlier can also reduce revs. If you drive a diesel car, try changing up a gear when the rev counter reaches the top of the torque band as given in the handbook. Effectively, drive as if there is an egg under the accelerator and you don’t want to break it!

3. Switching off the motor whenever it makes.sense..
*kl lg nungguin temen ato apa.. gw musti matiin mesin mobil sih.. lebih hemat kita matiin mesin n starter kl lama idle nya lebih dari 20detik..

4. Foresighted and relaxed floating with the traffic by using the car´s.momentum. (Congestion and Stop/Start Driving)

The engine uses more fuel every time you stop, then restart in a traffic queue. Therefore, when approaching the traffic ahead, slow down early by gently lifting your foot off the accelerator while keeping the car in gear. In this way, the traffic may have started moving again by the time you approach the vehicle in front. When in traffic jams, let a gap open up before moving off and try to keep a reasonable gap in front of you which will reduce the number of stops/starts.

5. Shedding ballast by removing unnecessary weight.

6. Drive at an Appropriate Speed
Speed limits are the maximum lawful speeds which may be driven in ideal circumstances. If you allow for sufficient time for journeys and as long as traffic conditions permit, savings on your fuel costs can be significant. For example, at 70mph you could be using up to 9% more fuel than at 60mph and up to 15% more fuel than at 50mph. *ini nih yg mnurut gw paling penting*
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ic pak John, kayaknya menjaga rpm tetap low, itu membantu banyak. emang sejak ada rpm meter, gw rasa istri gw improve banyak (selain emang livina irit yah).. dulu taruna gw ga ada rpm meter (maklum versi paling murah), itu gw rasakan rpm nya tinggi banget baru ganti gigi..

Pertanyaan gw: apakah driving speed rendah dengan gigi lumayan tinggi (supaya rpm dijaga 2500 misal), apakah nantinya tidak menyebabkan lama-lama mesin mobil tidak bisa dipacu pada kecepatan tinggi? Saya dulu ada persepsi seperti itu.. Istilahnya mesin jadi lembek gitu.. Mungkin persepsi saya salah..
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gunawan98 wrote:ic pak John, kayaknya menjaga rpm tetap low, itu membantu banyak. emang sejak ada rpm meter, gw rasa istri gw improve banyak (selain emang livina irit yah).. dulu taruna gw ga ada rpm meter (maklum versi paling murah), itu gw rasakan rpm nya tinggi banget baru ganti gigi..

Pertanyaan gw: apakah driving speed rendah dengan gigi lumayan tinggi (supaya rpm dijaga 2500 misal), apakah nantinya tidak menyebabkan lama-lama mesin mobil tidak bisa dipacu pada kecepatan tinggi? Saya dulu ada persepsi seperti itu.. Istilahnya mesin jadi lembek gitu.. Mungkin persepsi saya salah..
IMHO.. Sesekali mesin perlu dilakukan italian tuning.. alias dibawa sampai redline.. yg berguna u/ hilangkan deposit karbon dlm ruang pembakaran. Mobil yg sering dibawa glosor menahun.. maka karbon akan menumpuk dalam ruang pembakaran..
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Minggu ini saya naik gunung (trawas), mau ngikut HASH....:D:D

sekaligus buat test nanjak... Sayang banget kali ini di tangki berisi PREMIUM.. kuatirnya ga ada power. Tanjakan di trawas/tretes, termasuk curam... entar saya kasih review deh.. :D:D:D

pak John orang sby, pernah ngikut Hash ga? olahraga loh...:D
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Gw bilang "seakan" orang kaya.. ga perlu lo say thank you.. dan gw ga perlu marah lo mo cela apapun tuh GL lo .. dan ga ada yg perlu dipenasarin omong sama lo jack.. .udah kebaca tingkat intelektual lo dari tiap postingan lo.. PEACE. :beer:
wong ulerr kok ngomong tingkat intelektuall? hahahaha. .hahahaha.. ngaca duluu donkk.. nihh gw kasih biar nyadarrrr... kekeke.. udah yahh case closed! abis ini elu ngoceh aja sendiri
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Haaa ooikutan HASH ya, asyik tuh lari-nya pindah-2 tempat, dulu waktu sy dibali ikut smp dpt kaos yg ke 500, kalau nggk salah HASH HOUSE HARIERS ya, pakai terika ON...ON.ON
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waduh.. pak Ichsan & pak Maxx.. harap dihentikan dong... ga bagus tuh buat mental dan emosi kita loh...

back to the topic deh... pls..
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dony wrote:Haaa ooikutan HASH ya, asyik tuh lari-nya pindah-2 tempat, dulu waktu sy dibali ikut smp dpt kaos yg ke 500.
ini biar OOT, asik nih..gw rekomen buat rekan2 disini u/ ikut HASH... murah meriah sehat...
(tapi sejak bbm naik, sudah ga murah lagi... lah ke Trawas/Tretes/Pandaan dah habis brapa tuh...:D:D)...

o ya pak. Lari? maksunya running site nya yah... kalo saya ngikut hash sih ga lari pak.. jalan kaki aja dah pegel...:D
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Gw bilang "seakan" orang kaya.. ga perlu lo say thank you.. dan gw ga perlu marah lo mo cela apapun tuh GL lo .. dan ga ada yg perlu dipenasarin omong sama lo jack.. .udah kebaca tingkat intelektual lo dari tiap postingan lo.. PEACE. :beer:
wong ulerr kok ngomong tingkat intelektuall? hahahaha. .hahahaha.. ngaca duluu donkk.. nihh gw kasih biar nyadarrrr... kekeke.. udah yahh case closed! abis ini elu ngoceh aja sendiri
Hahaha.. you are so childish.. WTF is wrong with you? .. everyone will know how much is your intellectual rate from your posting and i dont think you understand, do you?
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gunawan98 wrote:waduh.. pak Ichsan & pak Maxx.. harap dihentikan dong... ga bagus tuh buat mental dan emosi kita loh...

back to the topic deh... pls..
I'm not the one who starting it.. you know who?.. just look at his posting.
Anyway... i don't take it personally every word he mention to judge me.
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gunawan98 wrote:
dony wrote:Haaa ooikutan HASH ya, asyik tuh lari-nya pindah-2 tempat, dulu waktu sy dibali ikut smp dpt kaos yg ke 500.
ini biar OOT, asik nih..gw rekomen buat rekan2 disini u/ ikut HASH... murah meriah sehat...
(tapi sejak bbm naik, sudah ga murah lagi... lah ke Trawas/Tretes/Pandaan dah habis brapa tuh...:D:D)...

o ya pak. Lari? maksunya running site nya yah... kalo saya ngikut hash sih ga lari pak.. jalan kaki aja dah pegel...:D
waduh.. kalo lari mah.. wong keliling senayan 2 kali aja bisa2 masuk ICU dehh gw kehabisan napas.. di jakarta ada macam HASH ini ngga yah? kemaren sih yang empot2an waktu naek ke gucci pak.. ampun2 deh.
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dony wrote:Haaa ooikutan HASH ya, asyik tuh lari-nya pindah-2 tempat, dulu waktu sy dibali ikut smp dpt kaos yg ke 500, kalau nggk salah HASH HOUSE HARIERS ya, pakai terika ON...ON.ON
Back the Topic.

Ada yg udh melakukan pengujian test emisi blm, kalau udh sharing dong hasilnya.
emang buat apaan don uji emisinya buat mobil baru?
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What i told you... he didn't reply this one... .. don't think he understand this one .. and look at my posting.. he didn't understand at all, did he? .. wkakakakak... :lol:

Just may be.. he asking his friend to translate right now.... ha ha ha.. lets see how is his english rate... :D
maxx wrote:John ... i willing to laugh.. coz i thing may be there is a person won't understand what you saying (post) here ... even my previous posting he just reply thank you coz i wishing him to be rich .. ha ha ha.. .. better u translate for him. :lol:
johnlegend wrote:1. Checking tire pressure regularly; a small action can have big effects.
Tyre Preventive Maintenance - Economic and Safety Benefits

Most drivers are aware that tyre pressures are important but few realise the benefits of tyre preventive maintenance which are:
Economics

* Fuel consumption – under-inflated tyres have higher rolling resistance. A generally accepted estimate is that 20 per cent under inflation leads to 3 per cent higher fuel consumption
* Cost – wrongly inflated tyres wear more quickly

2. Riding with low r.p.m. by quick change into the highest appropriate gear. (Over Revving the Engine)

Modern engines are designed with engine management systems so they are efficient from the moment they are switched on. Thus there is no need to over-rev as it only wastes fuel and increases engine wear. Using your gears wisely by changing up a gear a little earlier can also reduce revs. If you drive a diesel car, try changing up a gear when the rev counter reaches the top of the torque band as given in the handbook. Effectively, drive as if there is an egg under the accelerator and you don’t want to break it!

3. Switching off the motor whenever it makes.sense..
*kl lg nungguin temen ato apa.. gw musti matiin mesin mobil sih.. lebih hemat kita matiin mesin n starter kl lama idle nya lebih dari 20detik..

4. Foresighted and relaxed floating with the traffic by using the car´s.momentum. (Congestion and Stop/Start Driving)

The engine uses more fuel every time you stop, then restart in a traffic queue. Therefore, when approaching the traffic ahead, slow down early by gently lifting your foot off the accelerator while keeping the car in gear. In this way, the traffic may have started moving again by the time you approach the vehicle in front. When in traffic jams, let a gap open up before moving off and try to keep a reasonable gap in front of you which will reduce the number of stops/starts.

5. Shedding ballast by removing unnecessary weight.

6. Drive at an Appropriate Speed
Speed limits are the maximum lawful speeds which may be driven in ideal circumstances. If you allow for sufficient time for journeys and as long as traffic conditions permit, savings on your fuel costs can be significant. For example, at 70mph you could be using up to 9% more fuel than at 60mph and up to 15% more fuel than at 50mph. *ini nih yg mnurut gw paling penting*
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gunawan98 wrote:Minggu ini saya naik gunung (trawas), mau ngikut HASH....:D:D

sekaligus buat test nanjak... Sayang banget kali ini di tangki berisi PREMIUM.. kuatirnya ga ada power. Tanjakan di trawas/tretes, termasuk curam... entar saya kasih review deh.. :D:D:D

pak John orang sby, pernah ngikut Hash ga? olahraga loh...:D
hehehe.. saya skrg ngga or apa2 pak.. tp kok kurus gini yah.. huehuehue.. padahal makan nya uda buanyakk.. tar aja, tunggu kaya baru olah raga.. huehuehue..
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gunawan98 wrote:ic pak John, kayaknya menjaga rpm tetap low, itu membantu banyak. emang sejak ada rpm meter, gw rasa istri gw improve banyak (selain emang livina irit yah).. dulu taruna gw ga ada rpm meter (maklum versi paling murah), itu gw rasakan rpm nya tinggi banget baru ganti gigi..

Pertanyaan gw: apakah driving speed rendah dengan gigi lumayan tinggi (supaya rpm dijaga 2500 misal), apakah nantinya tidak menyebabkan lama-lama mesin mobil tidak bisa dipacu pada kecepatan tinggi? Saya dulu ada persepsi seperti itu.. Istilahnya mesin jadi lembek gitu.. Mungkin persepsi saya salah..
IMHO.. Sesekali mesin perlu dilakukan italian tuning.. alias dibawa sampai redline.. yg berguna u/ hilangkan deposit karbon dlm ruang pembakaran. Mobil yg sering dibawa glosor menahun.. maka karbon akan menumpuk dalam ruang pembakaran..
selepas masa inrayen.. saya bejeg abis GL nya.. biar ngga lemot.. skrg uda jalan 2000km :) tarikan nya lumayan lah.. not bad untuk mobil mpv 1.5 matic..

ada kejadian, mobil sepupu saya.. tarik'an nya lemah banget.. ngga bisa narik.. soal nya dia pas nyetir ngga pernah lebih dari 40kmh.. weleh.. *kok tahan ya.. kl saya jarang2 bisa dibawah 40kmh. huehuehue..*
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ichsan_n wrote:
maxx wrote:
Gw bilang "seakan" orang kaya.. ga perlu lo say thank you.. dan gw ga perlu marah lo mo cela apapun tuh GL lo .. dan ga ada yg perlu dipenasarin omong sama lo jack.. .udah kebaca tingkat intelektual lo dari tiap postingan lo.. PEACE. :beer:
wong ulerr kok ngomong tingkat intelektuall? hahahaha. .hahahaha.. ngaca duluu donkk.. nihh gw kasih biar nyadarrrr... kekeke.. udah yahh case closed! abis ini elu ngoceh aja sendiri
Hahaha.. you are so childish.. WTF is wrong with you? .. everyone will know how much is your intellectual rate from your posting and i dont think you understand, do you?
Do you understand?.. and can you rply me back in english pls??.. let see your intellectual rate in english... plsss.. i'm begging you... :lol:
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@pak Ichsan
waduh... terus terang di tempat kerja saya yah, yang senior2 (tua) itu kena penyakit jantung, kencing manis, dll..

mending pak Ichsan mulai olahraga aja deh.. baik u/ fisik.

Kalo hash dalam kota ya saya juga ga mau pak.. mau makan asap? Tiap kota pasti ada klub hash, tinggal di cari.. Gini-gini saya tiap sabtu minggu lari santai bisa 3-4 km tanpa berhenti loh.. :D Benernya ga baik tuh lah wong sabtu+minggu tok. mestinya ya minim 3 hari dalam seminggu.

@pak John,

saya juga kurus pak.. jadi waktu saya lihat foto pak John, lah koq mirip saya. mungkin saya lebih kurus lagi.. Tapi tahu ga? kolesterol saya 232... gila gak?
gak ada hubungan antara kurus dengan kolesterol/lemak. IMHO/CMIIW.

ichsan_n wrote:
gunawan98 wrote:
dony wrote:Haaa ooikutan HASH ya, asyik tuh lari-nya pindah-2 tempat, dulu waktu sy dibali ikut smp dpt kaos yg ke 500.
ini biar OOT, asik nih..gw rekomen buat rekan2 disini u/ ikut HASH... murah meriah sehat...
(tapi sejak bbm naik, sudah ga murah lagi... lah ke Trawas/Tretes/Pandaan dah habis brapa tuh...:D:D)...

o ya pak. Lari? maksunya running site nya yah... kalo saya ngikut hash sih ga lari pak.. jalan kaki aja dah pegel...:D
waduh.. kalo lari mah.. wong keliling senayan 2 kali aja bisa2 masuk ICU dehh gw kehabisan napas.. di jakarta ada macam HASH ini ngga yah? kemaren sih yang empot2an waktu naek ke gucci pak.. ampun2 deh.
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gunawan98 wrote:ic pak John, kayaknya menjaga rpm tetap low, itu membantu banyak. emang sejak ada rpm meter, gw rasa istri gw improve banyak (selain emang livina irit yah).. dulu taruna gw ga ada rpm meter (maklum versi paling murah), itu gw rasakan rpm nya tinggi banget baru ganti gigi..

Pertanyaan gw: apakah driving speed rendah dengan gigi lumayan tinggi (supaya rpm dijaga 2500 misal), apakah nantinya tidak menyebabkan lama-lama mesin mobil tidak bisa dipacu pada kecepatan tinggi? Saya dulu ada persepsi seperti itu.. Istilahnya mesin jadi lembek gitu.. Mungkin persepsi saya salah..
IMHO.. Sesekali mesin perlu dilakukan italian tuning.. alias dibawa sampai redline.. yg berguna u/ hilangkan deposit karbon dlm ruang pembakaran. Mobil yg sering dibawa glosor menahun.. maka karbon akan menumpuk dalam ruang pembakaran..
selepas masa inrayen.. saya bejeg abis GL nya.. biar ngga lemot.. skrg uda jalan 2000km :) tarikan nya lumayan lah.. not bad untuk mobil mpv 1.5 matic..

ada kejadian, mobil sepupu saya.. tarik'an nya lemah banget.. ngga bisa narik.. soal nya dia pas nyetir ngga pernah lebih dari 40kmh.. weleh.. *kok tahan ya.. kl saya jarang2 bisa dibawah 40kmh. huehuehue..*
Italian tuning lebih baik setidaknya dilakukan sekali dalam 5000KM u/ bersihkan karbon dalam ruang pembakaran.
Kalo mobil sering terus2 an 40kph.. sudah pasti lemot.. krn kemungkinan besar banyak karbon menumpuk.. dan deposit pada injector (bila mesin sdh pakai fuel injector).. kalo sudah menahun gitu sebaiknya di tuning + carbon clean. u/ mengembalikan kompresi & performa mesin
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gunawan98 wrote:ic pak John, kayaknya menjaga rpm tetap low, itu membantu banyak. emang sejak ada rpm meter, gw rasa istri gw improve banyak (selain emang livina irit yah).. dulu taruna gw ga ada rpm meter (maklum versi paling murah), itu gw rasakan rpm nya tinggi banget baru ganti gigi..

Pertanyaan gw: apakah driving speed rendah dengan gigi lumayan tinggi (supaya rpm dijaga 2500 misal), apakah nantinya tidak menyebabkan lama-lama mesin mobil tidak bisa dipacu pada kecepatan tinggi? Saya dulu ada persepsi seperti itu.. Istilahnya mesin jadi lembek gitu.. Mungkin persepsi saya salah..
mmh.. kl rpm 2500 kyk nya normal lho pak.. saya masi bilang rada ketinggian.. yg saya tau.. mesin bekerja paling effisien tuh pas rpm nya di 1800-2200.. perna saya baca kl speed paling hemat itu di antara 45kmh-80kmh.. dengan gigi paling tinggi *sepanjang memungkinkan*

contoh GL saya, pas cruising speed di 70kmh, matic kan di gigi 4.. itu di rpm 2100.. kl pas jalan 50-60km/h rpm nya di kisaran 1800-2000 pak.. begitu saya bejeg.. langsung kickdown ke gigi 3.. n rpm nya balik di atas 2400 gitu.. *hal yg sama jg di crv saya pak*

so kesimpulan nya, saya mikir kl transmisi nya uda diset dari pabrik nya gitu lah.. untuk maksimalkan effisiensi n power..

sekali2 perlu lah mobil di bejeg sampe redline kyk kt mr maxx.. *kl saya keseringan redline nya.. huehuehue*
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sori nih, HASH apaan sih? :)
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waduh.. serem bangett.. 232? mmh.. tp saya cek selalu bagus pak.. aneh yah.. ga OR lho.. tp yg saya pernah baca, ada salah satu factor dari DNA yg mempengaruhi cholesterol.. bukan susunan nya.. tp panjang dari dna gitu.. trus jg jumlah nya.. itu ada pengaruh ama level cholesterol gitu.. trus jg jenis vitamin ama jumlah air jg pegang peranan dikit maupun banyak pak gun.. *ngga tau bener kaga.. huehuehue*

saya kl makan jg serem lho.. suka maem yg junk banget lah.. coto makasar salah satu contoh nya.. gile.. enak banget.. pak gun tau coto makasar yg di seberang hotel weta maju kira2 200meter? wuih.. enak bener.. kasi kecap manis, jeruk purut, garam dikit.. makan pake ketupat.. *salivating neh gw..* moto hidup saya tuh "hidup untuk makan" pak.. hehehe

weleh2.. bener2 out of topic..
gunawan98 wrote:@pak Ichsan
waduh... terus terang di tempat kerja saya yah, yang senior2 (tua) itu kena penyakit jantung, kencing manis, dll..

mending pak Ichsan mulai olahraga aja deh.. baik u/ fisik.

Kalo hash dalam kota ya saya juga ga mau pak.. mau makan asap? Tiap kota pasti ada klub hash, tinggal di cari.. Gini-gini saya tiap sabtu minggu lari santai bisa 3-4 km tanpa berhenti loh.. :D Benernya ga baik tuh lah wong sabtu+minggu tok. mestinya ya minim 3 hari dalam seminggu.

@pak John,

saya juga kurus pak.. jadi waktu saya lihat foto pak John, lah koq mirip saya. mungkin saya lebih kurus lagi.. Tapi tahu ga? kolesterol saya 232... gila gak?
gak ada hubungan antara kurus dengan kolesterol/lemak. IMHO/CMIIW.

ichsan_n wrote:
gunawan98 wrote: ini biar OOT, asik nih..gw rekomen buat rekan2 disini u/ ikut HASH... murah meriah sehat...
(tapi sejak bbm naik, sudah ga murah lagi... lah ke Trawas/Tretes/Pandaan dah habis brapa tuh...:D:D)...

o ya pak. Lari? maksunya running site nya yah... kalo saya ngikut hash sih ga lari pak.. jalan kaki aja dah pegel...:D
waduh.. kalo lari mah.. wong keliling senayan 2 kali aja bisa2 masuk ICU dehh gw kehabisan napas.. di jakarta ada macam HASH ini ngga yah? kemaren sih yang empot2an waktu naek ke gucci pak.. ampun2 deh.
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btw, nih yg posting pada nganggur yah? huehuehue..

today has been unproductive one -_-"

buka SM melulu..
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gunawan98 wrote:@pak Ichsan
waduh... terus terang di tempat kerja saya yah, yang senior2 (tua) itu kena penyakit jantung, kencing manis, dll..

mending pak Ichsan mulai olahraga aja deh.. baik u/ fisik.

Kalo hash dalam kota ya saya juga ga mau pak.. mau makan asap? Tiap kota pasti ada klub hash, tinggal di cari.. Gini-gini saya tiap sabtu minggu lari santai bisa 3-4 km tanpa berhenti loh.. :D Benernya ga baik tuh lah wong sabtu+minggu tok. mestinya ya minim 3 hari dalam seminggu.

@pak John,

saya juga kurus pak.. jadi waktu saya lihat foto pak John, lah koq mirip saya. mungkin saya lebih kurus lagi.. Tapi tahu ga? kolesterol saya 232... gila gak?
gak ada hubungan antara kurus dengan kolesterol/lemak. IMHO/CMIIW.
oh ada clubnya tohh? hash itu singkatan apa yah? masalahnya kalo larinya rame2 lumayan enak jg.. kalo sendirian suka males pak.
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johnlegend wrote:btw, nih yg posting pada nganggur yah? huehuehue..

today has been unproductive one -_-"

buka SM melulu..

:lol: :lol: :lol: artinya bos2 semua pak... yang kerja anak buah.. kekeke..
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Test Emisi skrg ini khan lagi digencarkan , utk perpanjangan STNK perlu bukti test emisi.
Nissan Livina katanya udh lolos Euro II kalau nggk salah, jadi sekali-2 perlu ditest utk diliat kadar O2...,lambada..., Ho2.... dst.
Lambada tsb bisa menentukan boros atau tidaknya , kalau setelan lambada ketinggian terlalu lean, kekkurangan terlalu rich, idealnya ..... heee lupa ntr sy cari dulu