The 2008 Toyota Land Cruiser
The 2008 Toyota Land Cruiser has yet to make its formal debut, but that hasn't stopped Toyota's Honduran arm from jumping the gun and publishing the official photos of the big SUV. Corporación Flores, which we assume to be the automaker's importer in the country, has posted a flash gallery showing the truck inside and out under a "Nuevo Productos" banner on the homepage.
The mothership in Aichi must be very, very pleased. We've collected and arranged the photos for you in a gallery of our own. The truck is predictably similar to the '08 Lexus LX570, with which it shares its Tundra-sourced 5.7L V8, its general exterior appearance, its interior design, and... wait, that's everything.
New Toyota Land Cruiser 2008 !! and Lexus LX 570 !!
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New Lexus LX 570 !! Coming to Indonesia in 2008 !
Lexus introduced its redesigned LX570 full-size luxury at the Javits Center in New York today and the operative word is MORE! The new LX has more of everything. More power, torque, toys, cameras, airbags, power seats, you name it. The new 5.7L V-8 has 381 hp, 110 more than the previous version. Any driver of a big luxury SUV will also tell you that they must have a sequential shift six speed automatic, and with the new LX they get one as standard equipment.
For all those LX owners contemplating taking on the Rubicon Trail, you're probably still SOL, but for trails a little tamer there is now a hill descent control system built in, as well. There's also an electro-hydraulic suspension system that reduces body roll by 30 percent in cornering, adjusts the trucks attitude to reduce drag on the highway, and drops it by two inches to ease ingress/egress. A pair of blind spot cameras mounted behind the grille and a third on the underside of the passenger side mirror provide blind-spot vision when maneuvering in tight spaces.
There's lots of other stuff too, like power sliding rear seats and more that you can read about in the press release after the jump. Also check out the mega gallery of pics by clicking below and scan the rest of today's debut at the 2007 New York Auto Show.
PRESS RELEASE:
All-New 2008 Lexus LX 570 Full-Size Luxury Utility Vehicle Makes World Debut At 2007 New York International Auto Show
April 4, 2007 – New York - Lexus unveiled the all-new 2008 LX 570 full-size luxury utility vehicle at a press conference today at the 2007 New York International Auto Show. The all-new third-generation LX will feature more technological advancements to provide added power, luxury, safety, roominess and both on- and off-road capability over the award-winning LX 470 it replaces.
"The all-new LX 570 is packed with the luxury appointments and seamless technology our buyers expect of a Lexus vehicle," said Bob Carter, Lexus Division group vice president and general manager. "Equally important, the new LX 570 sets a high-water mark for Lexus by providing more on- and off-highway prowess than ever before, while at the same time providing the amount of interior space, comfort, luxury and ride quality our customers demand."
Improved Power Performance
The LX 570 will be equipped with a powerful 5.7-liter V8 engine that will produce 381 horsepower, over 110 more than the vehicle it replaces and over 400 lb.-ft. of torque. The engine will be mated to a new six-speed sequential-shift automatic transmission designed and built for large tasks. Both the engine and transmission are controlled and linked by sophisticated electronic management systems that help ensure optimal performance and fuel economy, with minimal emissions at all times. The new LX is expected to be certified as ULEV II.
With its upgraded powertrain mated to a new chassis and suspension system, the LX 570 will have a towing capacity of 8,500 pounds, an improvement of 2,000 pounds over the previous model.
Innovative Suspension and Technologies
Significant upgrades to the suspension and full-time four-wheel-drive system raise the LX to new levels of driving comfort and performance, on- and off-road. A Four-Wheel Electro-Hydraulic Suspension with Active Height Control (AHC) and Adaptive Variable Suspension is quicker and allows for a greater range of adjustment than the system it replaces. The new cross-linked system allows each wheel to react to the driving surface it is in contact with and also react to the actions of the opposing wheels. Using a valve at each corner and a center or master valve, the cross-linked suspension system detects the extension or deflection of each of the LX 570's 20-inch wheels and counters that with appropriate response at the opposite wheels.
The intelligence built into the LX 570's new suspension senses chassis roll and helps reduce that roll by more than 30 percent. The system also controls ride height quickly, lowering the chassis by an average of two inches for entry and exit and returning automatically to its normal height when the vehicle begins acceleration.
For improved aerodynamics, the new AHC system lowers the vehicle by nearly one inch in front and by a little more than a half inch in the rear at highway speeds. Finally, when the transfer case is shifted into low range, the AHC system raises the vehicle by approximately three inches to provide additional ride height in driving situations where chassis clearance is at a premium.
The LX 570 will also include a new Crawl Control feature for increased throttle control when maneuvering over rough or difficult surfaces. When in low range, Crawl Control helps maintain appropriate low speeds allowing the driver to concentrate on steering the LX 570 on the desired path. Similar to cruise control in maintaining vehicle speed, Crawl Control also actuates a set of virtual locking differentials to minimize tire slippage and maximize chassis behavior. Because chassis control is significantly improved, the likelihood of bottoming the LX 570 on the driving surface is significantly reduced.
While Crawl Control can be compared in some ways to cruise control, the driver constantly maintains control over the vehicle. Without cancelling the Crawl Control mode, the driver can reduce vehicle speed by braking, or alter the speed higher or lower by adjusting a speed selector switch.
The new LX 570 will also feature a multi-terrain ABS braking system. This new technology is designed to help reduce stopping distances on slippery surfaces such as sand or gravel.
Among its many advanced technologies the LX 570 will also offer a new blind corner monitor feature designed for use in urban settings such as exiting a parking garage. With cameras located within the grille and under the passenger side-view mirror, the driver can easily check hard-to-view areas by simply pressing a button on the dashboard and viewing the camera images on the navigation screen.
Lexus Styling
The luxury styling of the new LX 570 emphasizes the Lexus identity by combining the muscular strength and sense of security expected in a four-wheel-drive utility vehicle with the simplistic originality of the Lexus L-finesse design theme, making it much more refined and dynamic than its predecessor. The bold theme of the new LX carries over from front to rear with a wide stance and brawny cabin proportions that are accented with subtle character lines and luxury touches such as chrome-plated door handles and moldings.
The wide front grille and arrowhead design on the corners reflect a Lexus styling cue. Distinctive character lines in the hood convey a feeling of power. The character lines are integrated into the bumper and lower intake to convey an aggressive stance. The large projector headlights are restyled to add a dose of sophistication to the beefy front end.
The cut-line above the front fenders adds to the performance image of the new LX while the wheel arches add an element of ruggedness to its clean profile. The running boards are fitted closer to the body to provide a more integrated appearance.
In the rear, the LX features a sculpted rear door for a more dynamic look and wide combination lights that emphasize its large size. The combination lights and license plate are accentuated with tasteful chrome accents. A six-spoke 20-inch alloy wheel design creates a two-dimensional appearance that is sporty yet elegant.
The styling is complemented with features that include Adaptive Front Headlights, a power back door, puddle lamps, headlight washers and a front wiper de-icer.
Spacious Interior Comfort
The overall wheelbase of the new LX 570 is unchanged from its predecessor, helping to maintain its impressive maneuverability. However, interior and exterior length have increased by at least four inches and width by nearly an inch, creating a more inviting and comfortable space for up to eight passengers and their cargo.
Inside, the LX cabin is modern, civilized and characteristically quiet. It will also be equipped with an array of luxury amenities including four-zone independent climate control complete with numerous air vents, a power-sliding second-row seat with a 40/20/40 split, a power third-row seat, navigation with Bluetooth® capability, a nine-speaker premium audio system, XM Satellite Radio with XM NavTraffic, a real time traffic information service that provides driver alerts regarding accidents, road closings and traffic, front seat power bottom cushion extenders, and much more.
Advanced Active Safety Technologies
For enhanced safety, the new LX will feature a segment-leading 10 standard airbags including driver- and front-passenger knee airbags, second-row seat-mounted side airbags and third-row curtains. Among the many safety features on the new LX are Active Front Headrests, a first for a Lexus utility vehicle, second-row seat belt pretensioners, and a direct tire pressure monitor system.
Luxury Amenities
In addition to its numerous standard features and advanced technologies,
the LX 570 will also be available with a number of optional amenities including climate controlled front seats and heated rear seats, a 19-speaker Mark Levinson® audio system with Reference Surround Sound and a hard disc drive capable of storing up to 2,000 songs, a rear seat entertainment system with a nine-inch screen, the Lexus Intuitive Park Assist, a first-in-its-class Pre-Collision System with Adaptive Cruise Control and Lexus Link.
Luxury packages will also be offered on the new LX that will include features such as semi-aniline leather interior trim, a cool box in the front center console, illuminated scuff plates, unique wheel finish, a Smart Card key, and Bubinga wood trim, a wood used to craft fine furniture, instruments and to decorate private jets.
The all-new LX 570 will reach Lexus dealer showrooms in early 2008.
2008 LX 570 PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS
2008 LX 570
2007 LX 470
Engine
5.7-liter V8
4.7-liter V8
Horsepower
381
268
Torque
401 lb.-ft.
328 lb.-ft.
Transmission
Six-Speed Automatic with Sequential Shift
Five-Speed Automatic with Gated Shifter
Towing Capacity (lbs)
8,500
6,500
Interior Length (inches)
128.5
124.2
Width (inches)
77.6
76.4
Height (inches)
74.4
72.8
Overall Length (inches)
196.5
192.5
Wheelbase (inches)
112.2
112.2
Driven Wheels
Full-time Four-Wheel DriveWith Torsen LSD
Full-Time Four-Wheel-Drive
Wheels and Tires
20-inch alloy wheels and 285/50R 20 tires
18-inch alloy wheels with 275/60R 18 tires
Emissions Rating
ULEV II
ULEV II
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For all those LX owners contemplating taking on the Rubicon Trail, you're probably still SOL, but for trails a little tamer there is now a hill descent control system built in, as well. There's also an electro-hydraulic suspension system that reduces body roll by 30 percent in cornering, adjusts the trucks attitude to reduce drag on the highway, and drops it by two inches to ease ingress/egress. A pair of blind spot cameras mounted behind the grille and a third on the underside of the passenger side mirror provide blind-spot vision when maneuvering in tight spaces.
There's lots of other stuff too, like power sliding rear seats and more that you can read about in the press release after the jump. Also check out the mega gallery of pics by clicking below and scan the rest of today's debut at the 2007 New York Auto Show.
PRESS RELEASE:
All-New 2008 Lexus LX 570 Full-Size Luxury Utility Vehicle Makes World Debut At 2007 New York International Auto Show
April 4, 2007 – New York - Lexus unveiled the all-new 2008 LX 570 full-size luxury utility vehicle at a press conference today at the 2007 New York International Auto Show. The all-new third-generation LX will feature more technological advancements to provide added power, luxury, safety, roominess and both on- and off-road capability over the award-winning LX 470 it replaces.
"The all-new LX 570 is packed with the luxury appointments and seamless technology our buyers expect of a Lexus vehicle," said Bob Carter, Lexus Division group vice president and general manager. "Equally important, the new LX 570 sets a high-water mark for Lexus by providing more on- and off-highway prowess than ever before, while at the same time providing the amount of interior space, comfort, luxury and ride quality our customers demand."
Improved Power Performance
The LX 570 will be equipped with a powerful 5.7-liter V8 engine that will produce 381 horsepower, over 110 more than the vehicle it replaces and over 400 lb.-ft. of torque. The engine will be mated to a new six-speed sequential-shift automatic transmission designed and built for large tasks. Both the engine and transmission are controlled and linked by sophisticated electronic management systems that help ensure optimal performance and fuel economy, with minimal emissions at all times. The new LX is expected to be certified as ULEV II.
With its upgraded powertrain mated to a new chassis and suspension system, the LX 570 will have a towing capacity of 8,500 pounds, an improvement of 2,000 pounds over the previous model.
Innovative Suspension and Technologies
Significant upgrades to the suspension and full-time four-wheel-drive system raise the LX to new levels of driving comfort and performance, on- and off-road. A Four-Wheel Electro-Hydraulic Suspension with Active Height Control (AHC) and Adaptive Variable Suspension is quicker and allows for a greater range of adjustment than the system it replaces. The new cross-linked system allows each wheel to react to the driving surface it is in contact with and also react to the actions of the opposing wheels. Using a valve at each corner and a center or master valve, the cross-linked suspension system detects the extension or deflection of each of the LX 570's 20-inch wheels and counters that with appropriate response at the opposite wheels.
The intelligence built into the LX 570's new suspension senses chassis roll and helps reduce that roll by more than 30 percent. The system also controls ride height quickly, lowering the chassis by an average of two inches for entry and exit and returning automatically to its normal height when the vehicle begins acceleration.
For improved aerodynamics, the new AHC system lowers the vehicle by nearly one inch in front and by a little more than a half inch in the rear at highway speeds. Finally, when the transfer case is shifted into low range, the AHC system raises the vehicle by approximately three inches to provide additional ride height in driving situations where chassis clearance is at a premium.
The LX 570 will also include a new Crawl Control feature for increased throttle control when maneuvering over rough or difficult surfaces. When in low range, Crawl Control helps maintain appropriate low speeds allowing the driver to concentrate on steering the LX 570 on the desired path. Similar to cruise control in maintaining vehicle speed, Crawl Control also actuates a set of virtual locking differentials to minimize tire slippage and maximize chassis behavior. Because chassis control is significantly improved, the likelihood of bottoming the LX 570 on the driving surface is significantly reduced.
While Crawl Control can be compared in some ways to cruise control, the driver constantly maintains control over the vehicle. Without cancelling the Crawl Control mode, the driver can reduce vehicle speed by braking, or alter the speed higher or lower by adjusting a speed selector switch.
The new LX 570 will also feature a multi-terrain ABS braking system. This new technology is designed to help reduce stopping distances on slippery surfaces such as sand or gravel.
Among its many advanced technologies the LX 570 will also offer a new blind corner monitor feature designed for use in urban settings such as exiting a parking garage. With cameras located within the grille and under the passenger side-view mirror, the driver can easily check hard-to-view areas by simply pressing a button on the dashboard and viewing the camera images on the navigation screen.
Lexus Styling
The luxury styling of the new LX 570 emphasizes the Lexus identity by combining the muscular strength and sense of security expected in a four-wheel-drive utility vehicle with the simplistic originality of the Lexus L-finesse design theme, making it much more refined and dynamic than its predecessor. The bold theme of the new LX carries over from front to rear with a wide stance and brawny cabin proportions that are accented with subtle character lines and luxury touches such as chrome-plated door handles and moldings.
The wide front grille and arrowhead design on the corners reflect a Lexus styling cue. Distinctive character lines in the hood convey a feeling of power. The character lines are integrated into the bumper and lower intake to convey an aggressive stance. The large projector headlights are restyled to add a dose of sophistication to the beefy front end.
The cut-line above the front fenders adds to the performance image of the new LX while the wheel arches add an element of ruggedness to its clean profile. The running boards are fitted closer to the body to provide a more integrated appearance.
In the rear, the LX features a sculpted rear door for a more dynamic look and wide combination lights that emphasize its large size. The combination lights and license plate are accentuated with tasteful chrome accents. A six-spoke 20-inch alloy wheel design creates a two-dimensional appearance that is sporty yet elegant.
The styling is complemented with features that include Adaptive Front Headlights, a power back door, puddle lamps, headlight washers and a front wiper de-icer.
Spacious Interior Comfort
The overall wheelbase of the new LX 570 is unchanged from its predecessor, helping to maintain its impressive maneuverability. However, interior and exterior length have increased by at least four inches and width by nearly an inch, creating a more inviting and comfortable space for up to eight passengers and their cargo.
Inside, the LX cabin is modern, civilized and characteristically quiet. It will also be equipped with an array of luxury amenities including four-zone independent climate control complete with numerous air vents, a power-sliding second-row seat with a 40/20/40 split, a power third-row seat, navigation with Bluetooth® capability, a nine-speaker premium audio system, XM Satellite Radio with XM NavTraffic, a real time traffic information service that provides driver alerts regarding accidents, road closings and traffic, front seat power bottom cushion extenders, and much more.
Advanced Active Safety Technologies
For enhanced safety, the new LX will feature a segment-leading 10 standard airbags including driver- and front-passenger knee airbags, second-row seat-mounted side airbags and third-row curtains. Among the many safety features on the new LX are Active Front Headrests, a first for a Lexus utility vehicle, second-row seat belt pretensioners, and a direct tire pressure monitor system.
Luxury Amenities
In addition to its numerous standard features and advanced technologies,
the LX 570 will also be available with a number of optional amenities including climate controlled front seats and heated rear seats, a 19-speaker Mark Levinson® audio system with Reference Surround Sound and a hard disc drive capable of storing up to 2,000 songs, a rear seat entertainment system with a nine-inch screen, the Lexus Intuitive Park Assist, a first-in-its-class Pre-Collision System with Adaptive Cruise Control and Lexus Link.
Luxury packages will also be offered on the new LX that will include features such as semi-aniline leather interior trim, a cool box in the front center console, illuminated scuff plates, unique wheel finish, a Smart Card key, and Bubinga wood trim, a wood used to craft fine furniture, instruments and to decorate private jets.
The all-new LX 570 will reach Lexus dealer showrooms in early 2008.
2008 LX 570 PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS
2008 LX 570
2007 LX 470
Engine
5.7-liter V8
4.7-liter V8
Horsepower
381
268
Torque
401 lb.-ft.
328 lb.-ft.
Transmission
Six-Speed Automatic with Sequential Shift
Five-Speed Automatic with Gated Shifter
Towing Capacity (lbs)
8,500
6,500
Interior Length (inches)
128.5
124.2
Width (inches)
77.6
76.4
Height (inches)
74.4
72.8
Overall Length (inches)
196.5
192.5
Wheelbase (inches)
112.2
112.2
Driven Wheels
Full-time Four-Wheel DriveWith Torsen LSD
Full-Time Four-Wheel-Drive
Wheels and Tires
20-inch alloy wheels and 285/50R 20 tires
18-inch alloy wheels with 275/60R 18 tires
Emissions Rating
ULEV II
ULEV II
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interior luar biasa.
exterior. hmm.. kok gw demenan yang sekarang ya (LC100)
ini kayaknya kurang 'garang' & terlalu manis buat 4x4 large SUV
exterior. hmm.. kok gw demenan yang sekarang ya (LC100)
ini kayaknya kurang 'garang' & terlalu manis buat 4x4 large SUV
my ride: MB G300
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Iya setuju ama shochu, dalemnya bagusnya minta ampun - luarnya...biasa aja, mesti liat aslinya dulu kali ya. Berarti kalo traditional SUV ladder frame kaya gini gak bisa fold-flat ya 3rd row seatnya....semuanya yg gue liat di lipat ke atas (ngabisin tempat).
Yg nyari manual, iya iya udah tau suka balapan. Masalahnya sebagian besar yg beli mobil ini palingan beli 'matic, so perhaps it's not cost effective buat kasi option manual hanya buat segelintir pembelinya. Rolls Royce Phantom juga gak ada manualnya - r u going to complain about that as well?
Yg nyari manual, iya iya udah tau suka balapan. Masalahnya sebagian besar yg beli mobil ini palingan beli 'matic, so perhaps it's not cost effective buat kasi option manual hanya buat segelintir pembelinya. Rolls Royce Phantom juga gak ada manualnya - r u going to complain about that as well?
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Interior bagus/mewah karena yang dikasi liat gambar lexusnya (LX560) yang pastinya full options. Kalo diperhatiin gambar ke 10 dari atas, keliatan kalo yang TLC standard tapenya masih kaya punyanya camry lama (double din tapi belom yang built in sama dashboard). soalnya denger2 Toyota gak keluarin TLC Cygnus lagi (yang serupa dgn LX560), tapi bakalan langsung jual LX560. Kalo soal exterior, gw bilang sih bagus2 aja......mobil mahal keliatannya pasti bagus lah bos.... 
kalo gw bilang versi manualnya pasti ada, tapi mungkin bukan dijual buat umum. TLC soalnya banyak dipake u/ mobil militer dan mobil2 dinasnya UN (PBB)...cari aja bekasnya bro PosVett?
kalo gw bilang versi manualnya pasti ada, tapi mungkin bukan dijual buat umum. TLC soalnya banyak dipake u/ mobil militer dan mobil2 dinasnya UN (PBB)...cari aja bekasnya bro PosVett?
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Dilihat bentuknya luar dan dalam, kelihatannya tidak akan dipakai oleh badan-2 PBB untuk bantuan bencana alam, palang merah dsb-dsb.... Mungkin masih tetap pakai yang seri 100.Risol1 wrote:Interior bagus/mewah karena yang dikasi liat gambar lexusnya (LX560) yang pastinya full options. Kalo diperhatiin gambar ke 10 dari atas, keliatan kalo yang TLC standard tapenya masih kaya punyanya camry lama (double din tapi belom yang built in sama dashboard). soalnya denger2 Toyota gak keluarin TLC Cygnus lagi (yang serupa dgn LX560), tapi bakalan langsung jual LX560. Kalo soal exterior, gw bilang sih bagus2 aja......mobil mahal keliatannya pasti bagus lah bos.... :lol:
kalo gw bilang versi manualnya pasti ada, tapi mungkin bukan dijual buat umum. TLC soalnya banyak dipake u/ mobil militer dan mobil2 dinasnya UN (PBB)...cari aja bekasnya bro PosVett? :D
Di Indonesia pasti laku keras nih... para Camat,Bupati,Gubernur dan anggota-2 DPR langsung beli..... engga penting bentuknya cocok dengan selera atau tidak. Yang penting mobil mahal dan Land Cruiser.....
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abis itu buruan LC100 nya dijual murah2.
gw siap2 nabung mulai sekarang. mudah2an 2-3 taon lagi udah kebeli
gw siap2 nabung mulai sekarang. mudah2an 2-3 taon lagi udah kebeli
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cari bekasnya dong pak tigor..
mana kuat harga segitu??
bekasnya yang taon 2000 udah dibawah 500jt kok skrg.
nunggu 2-3 taon lagi udah deket 350an nih..
kalo beli baru harganya deket2 1M, dapet duit dari mana?
bisa dapet rumah mewah tuh. lagian ntar pas mau jual lagi pasaran cuma 500, sedihnya luar biasa.
emang kayaknya standar gw ngga bisa jauh2 dari angka 250-300jt bro. kalo no limit & ngga pikirin resale value sih, gw pengen banget land rover LR3. tiap kali liat dijalanan ngiler2 sampe netes
mana kuat harga segitu??
bekasnya yang taon 2000 udah dibawah 500jt kok skrg.
nunggu 2-3 taon lagi udah deket 350an nih..
kalo beli baru harganya deket2 1M, dapet duit dari mana?
bisa dapet rumah mewah tuh. lagian ntar pas mau jual lagi pasaran cuma 500, sedihnya luar biasa.
emang kayaknya standar gw ngga bisa jauh2 dari angka 250-300jt bro. kalo no limit & ngga pikirin resale value sih, gw pengen banget land rover LR3. tiap kali liat dijalanan ngiler2 sampe netes
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Iya beli mobil di Indonesia emang sedih, 1 milyar rupiah di Amerika udah ampir dapet Ferrari...udah dapet Maserati. Disini? alamak...Audi TT baru aja kaga dapet.
Kalo beli baru obviously banyakan ke pajak, bukan ke mobilnya...rugi berat. Tapi yah, kalo uang tinggal ambil duit negara ala pejabat2 kita, ya lain ya...he he...udah lain kelasnya (kelas maling hihihi...)
Padahal, kalo pajak dibikin reasonable, dan pajak mobil tua di naikin...kan industri mobil jadi maju (mobil baru jadi laku keras)...polusi berkurang (less old cars on the road). Pajak mengalir dr jauh lebih banyak org (massive tax base, org Indonesia segitu banyaknya), bukan hanya segelintir manusia yg cuek aja bayar pajak gila2an.
Bener kata shochu, 1 milyar bisa beli tanah yg OK or a decent house. Itu emang investasi paling sipppp di Indonesia ...
Kalo beli baru obviously banyakan ke pajak, bukan ke mobilnya...rugi berat. Tapi yah, kalo uang tinggal ambil duit negara ala pejabat2 kita, ya lain ya...he he...udah lain kelasnya (kelas maling hihihi...)
Padahal, kalo pajak dibikin reasonable, dan pajak mobil tua di naikin...kan industri mobil jadi maju (mobil baru jadi laku keras)...polusi berkurang (less old cars on the road). Pajak mengalir dr jauh lebih banyak org (massive tax base, org Indonesia segitu banyaknya), bukan hanya segelintir manusia yg cuek aja bayar pajak gila2an.
Bener kata shochu, 1 milyar bisa beli tanah yg OK or a decent house. Itu emang investasi paling sipppp di Indonesia ...
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sidalausa
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bicara banyak orang Indonesia yang kaya...? emang bener om!FortunerMan wrote:Iya beli mobil di Indonesia emang sedih, 1 milyar rupiah di Amerika udah ampir dapet Ferrari...udah dapet Maserati. Disini? alamak...Audi TT baru aja kaga dapet.
Kalo beli baru obviously banyakan ke pajak, bukan ke mobilnya...rugi berat. Tapi yah, kalo uang tinggal ambil duit negara ala pejabat2 kita, ya lain ya...he he...udah lain kelasnya (kelas maling hihihi...)
Padahal, kalo pajak dibikin reasonable, dan pajak mobil tua di naikin...kan industri mobil jadi maju (mobil baru jadi laku keras)...polusi berkurang (less old cars on the road). Pajak mengalir dr jauh lebih banyak org (massive tax base, org Indonesia segitu banyaknya), bukan hanya segelintir manusia yg cuek aja bayar pajak gila2an.
Bener kata shochu, 1 milyar bisa beli tanah yg OK or a decent house. Itu emang investasi paling sipppp di Indonesia ...
sedikit OOT neh, tu negara singapore makmur krn ada andilnya orang Indonesia juga.
menurut survey broker & riset properti global jones langg lasalle; taon 2006 sedikitnya 1000 unit apartement mewah si s'pore dibeli oleh orang indonesia...
itu sama aja 21% dari seluruh apartement mewah yang di s'pore dan tertinggi dari seluruh negara yang membeli apartement... hebat khan....
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Risol1
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Singapore makmur karena pemerintahnya nya cukup bersih dan hukum ditegakkan...maju jg karena jadi tukang servis buat negara2 di sekitarnya...dienya sendiri mah gak punya komoditi/hasil alam sedikit pun.
Orang luar negeri terutama dr amerika dan eropa lebih nyaman deal sama perusahaan2 di singapore walaupun harus bayar barang dengan harga 2 kali lipet ..... daripada langsung ke negara penghasilnya (misal indonesia, dan negara2 asean lainnya).
emang nasib ......
Orang luar negeri terutama dr amerika dan eropa lebih nyaman deal sama perusahaan2 di singapore walaupun harus bayar barang dengan harga 2 kali lipet ..... daripada langsung ke negara penghasilnya (misal indonesia, dan negara2 asean lainnya).
emang nasib ......