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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Change wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 14:11 Posting lagi...biar makin panas

Btw..yg mau pakai klem oetiker banyak juga hehe.walau susah cari tang khususnya di Indonesia

waini.... foto aseli.
ntap.

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Change wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 14:11 Posting lagi...biar makin panas

Btw..yg mau pakai klem oetiker banyak juga hehe.walau susah cari tang khususnya di Indonesia
om kalo wurth ada tang buat klem oetiker boleh posting dimari ...
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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yanuarra wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:42
Omnibus wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:25
yanuarra wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:10 @Omnibus om punya tang brand Oetiker ngg?
ngga? om punya emang?
:big_chicken:
haha maksudnya apa sih om?

emang ada tang brand nya oetiker?

pada ketularan seseorang nih kayanya ... anda atau saya hahahahahahaha
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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marmut wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 14:21
ini mbah, bisa godek 90° ke kedua arah. muter clockwise atau counterclockwise tinggal dibalik (ga pakai toggle switch)

*maap sdh pernah sy pajang sebelumnya cuma numpang mbah marmut nanya.
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arah arrow clockwise
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arah arrow counterclockwise
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Omnibus wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 15:15
marmut wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 14:21
ini mbah, bisa godek 90° ke kedua arah. muter clockwise atau counterclockwise tinggal dibalik (ga pakai toggle switch)

*maap sdh pernah sy pajang sebelumnya cuma numpang mbah marmut nanya.

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IMG_20200830_220603.jpg


arah arrow clockwise
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arah arrow counterclockwise
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lupakan kunci godek.
fokus ke torq wrens stahlwille yang masih di tabungnya, ada 2 apa 3 itu mbah?
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Omnibus wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 14:49
yanuarra wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:42
Omnibus wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:25

ngga? om punya emang?
:big_chicken:
haha maksudnya apa sih om?

emang ada tang brand nya oetiker?

pada ketularan seseorang nih kayanya ... anda atau saya hahahahahahaha
Jiaah si om ada keleus tangnya :weekk:
Oetiker dia ada tangnya juga selain klemnya itu sendiri :big_peace: ..
Sebijinya bisa beli dua biji Knipex kayanya :big_grin:
rare barangnya di indo..
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Omnibus wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 15:15
marmut wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 14:21
ini mbah, bisa godek 90° ke kedua arah. muter clockwise atau counterclockwise tinggal dibalik (ga pakai toggle switch)

*maap sdh pernah sy pajang sebelumnya cuma numpang mbah marmut nanya.

IMG_20200830_220546.jpg


IMG_20200830_220603.jpg


arah arrow clockwise
IMG_20200830_220642.jpg


arah arrow counterclockwise
IMG_20200830_220651.jpg
Duhh facom.. :big_love:
ibarat velg te37.. udah lah nggk pernah salah tu facom.. dipakenya enak...precisionnya mantap..
Harganya pun sedap :big_slap:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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marmut wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 15:28
lupakan kunci godek.
fokus ke torq wrens stahlwille yang masih di tabungnya, ada 2 apa 3 itu mbah?
:big_love:
dasar, fokus mbah fokus. wkwkwk

difoto 3, di lemari 1. total ada 4. :ungg:

yanuarra wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 15:32
Jiaah si om ada keleus tangnya :weekk:
Oetiker dia ada tangnya juga selain klemnya itu sendiri :big_peace: ..
Sebijinya bisa beli dua biji Knipex kayanya :big_grin:
rare barangnya di indo..
oh iya ada hahaha. maklum yg terkenal kan knipex jd sy ga toleh2 yg lain.

harganya beda dikit $20 vs $24, mahalan oetiker tp ratingnya bagusan knipex. :weekk:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Omnibus wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 16:25
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difoto 3, di lemari 1. total ada 4. :ungg:


rombongan insert head-nya ada apa aja mbah? kayanya belum pernah tayang ya?

ring insert 18mm (fmm) sudah masuk wishlist walaupun gatau nantinya kepake apa enggak, hanya karena menggiurkan harganya. hehehe....
yang 17mm (tmj) malah lebih mahal dikit, tapi sudah masuk wishlist juga.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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marmut wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 17:45
rombongan insert head-nya ada apa aja mbah? kayanya belum pernah tayang ya?

-------
ok mbah, sesuai request saya tayangkeun ... :big_love:

sengaja tidak dikeluarkan dr plastiknya. spy ga karatan sehabis pakai dilap dan dimasukkan ke plastiknya lagi.


14x18:
pas 18, 19, 21, 22, 24, ring 19

9x12:
pas 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, adaptor 9x12 --> 14x18 (utk pakai insert 14x18 menggunakan TW 9x12.

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Wahhh keren om ominbus... :big_exellent:

Mau ikut posting tp apa yaa yg bisa diposting... :big_think:

Berhubung lg sebut2 plastik.. posting barang plastik aja deh :big_grin:
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Malah mirip pispot... :upss:

Andalan buat ganti oli mocil.. dikedua sisinya ada lekukan spy ramping bisa masuk ke standar tengah si motor

Kapasitasnya dua setengah literan..
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Omnibus wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:16
marmut wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 17:45
rombongan insert head-nya ada apa aja mbah? kayanya belum pernah tayang ya?

-------
ok mbah, sesuai request saya tayangkeun ... :big_love:

sengaja tidak dikeluarkan dr plastiknya. spy ga karatan sehabis pakai dilap dan dimasukkan ke plastiknya lagi.


14x18:
pas 18, 19, 21, 22, 24, ring 19

9x12:
pas 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, adaptor 9x12 --> 14x18 (utk pakai insert 14x18 menggunakan TW 9x12.


IMG_20200831_100603~2.jpg




IMG_20200831_100642~2.jpg


IMG_20200831_100654~2.jpg


:ngacir:
lengkap bet :big_exellent: kalo bosen pake, kabarin om. wkwkwk

iseng ah, foto2. Digitalnya ga presisi, jadinya dimatiin aja. maklum barang murah. wkwkwk. :mky_04:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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marmut wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:12 agustus jadi bulan yang cukup berpihak kepada saya, walaupun bulan lainnya pun juga berpihak.

di minggu kedua bulan ini sudah dapet rejeki dari mbah @Omnibus berupa torq wrens mulus kinyis-kinyis kinclong dengan harga nggak masuk akal alias murah banget :big_love: .

kali ini datang dari piawai detailer shifu @josomba, baru 3× pakai menurut beliau. harga pun benar-benar ramah dengan kantong saya plus khratis jasa pengiriman :big_grin:



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sebuah scanner OBD2 merk konnwei tipe KW808 berwarna cukup cerah. belum sempat saya coba karena disini hanya ada 1 unit sj410 dengan mesin f10a. mau colok di knalpot tapi nggak ada adaptornya...
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:16
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9x12:
pas 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, adaptor 9x12 --> 14x18 (utk pakai insert 14x18 menggunakan TW 9x12.


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bener-bener rombongan.

mbah, kalo manoskop 9×12 trus pake adaptor 14×18, itungan torsinya begimana? kan titik tumpu insertnya berubah jadi makin panjang....
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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marmut wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:25
Omnibus wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:16
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9x12:
pas 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, adaptor 9x12 --> 14x18 (utk pakai insert 14x18 menggunakan TW 9x12.


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bener-bener rombongan.

mbah, kalo manoskop 9×12 trus pake adaptor 14×18, itungan torsinya begimana? kan titik tumpu insertnya berubah jadi makin panjang....
kmren2 om omnibus pernah bilang katanya nggk ngaruh...

Tp di tw yg digital ada menu buat nge-set panjang extension yg dipakai kalau mau pakai extension....
Misal pakai extension 50 mili...

Misal statusnya off
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Di on kan
IMG_20200831_114415.jpg
Input angka 50 mm
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Trus press ok deh
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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marmut wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:25
Omnibus wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:16
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9x12:
pas 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, adaptor 9x12 --> 14x18 (utk pakai insert 14x18 menggunakan TW 9x12.


-



bener-bener rombongan.

mbah, kalo manoskop 9×12 trus pake adaptor 14×18, itungan torsinya begimana? kan titik tumpu insertnya berubah jadi makin panjang....
pertanyaan super mendetail dari si mbah. I LIKE IT! :emo-big_love:

formula hitungannya ada di halaman awal katalog stahlwille bagian TW. tapi utk memudahkan saya, semua TW beserta insertnya yg sy punya sdh ta buatkan semacam coefficient dari formula tsb jadi memudahkan kl saya mau gonta ganti insert, khususnya yg QR ratchet dan adaptor (sebutan officialnya ACOPLABLE)

spt coretan notes saya sebelumnya ttg data torque spec baut2 di njes dan anf, maka ini catatan kecil sy utk coefficient TW:
*hahahaha ketauan deh kl gw suka nyatet2 ginian :big_weee:

STAHLWILLE Torque Wrench Coefficient

Wk = Torque wrench setting
Ma = Target torque value

1. 730N/2 : 2-20 Nm
a. QR inserts 725QR : Wk = .956 x Ma
b. Acoplable 7370/10 : Wk = .856 x Ma

2. 730N/5 : 10-50 Nm
a. QR inserts 725QR : Wk = .964 x Ma
b. Acoplable 7370/10 : Wk = .881 x Ma

No need to change for Open-ended insert tool 731/10 : 9 x 12 and 731/40 : 14 x 18 when in direct connection.

No need to change for ratchet insert 1/4" 725/4 and 3/8" 735/5 on Manoskop 730N/2 and 730N/5.

No need to change for ratchet insert 1/2" 735/20 on Manoskop 730N/20 : 40-200 Nm.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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yanuarra wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:55

kmren2 om omnibus pernah bilang katanya nggk ngaruh...

Tp di tw yg digital ada menu buat nge-set panjang extension yg dipakai kalau mau pakai extension....
Misal pakai extension 50 mili...

Misal statusnya off
IMG_20200831_114358.jpg
Di on kan
IMG_20200831_114415.jpg
Input angka 50 mm
IMG_20200831_114457.jpg

Trus press ok deh


kalo extension buat socket bit memang ga pengaruh.
tapi ini titik tumpunya (titik A ke titik B) berubah lebih panjang dari yang (misalnya) 500mm jadi 550mm (as tengah square drive/ring insert ke ujung satunya).
kecuali rumah insert aslinya yang 9×12 dicopot dulu, trus masukin adaptor yang 14×18. tapi kan ga mungkin karena rumah insert-nya ga bisa bongpas....
yang digital enak bisa set seperti itu.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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yanuarra wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:55
kmren2 om omnibus pernah bilang katanya nggk ngaruh...

Tp di tw yg digital ada menu buat nge-set panjang extension yg dipakai kalau mau pakai extension....
Misal pakai extension 50 mili...

Misal statusnya off
IMG_20200831_114358.jpg
Di on kan
IMG_20200831_114415.jpg
Input angka 50 mm
IMG_20200831_114457.jpg

Trus press ok deh
om, maksud sy waktu itu yg ngga ngaruh itu kl pakai extension krn kan sumbu putarnya tetap di poros ratchet, mau berapa pun panjang extensionnya secara teori ga pengaruh krn T = F x r.
T: torque; F: Force; r: Distance from F to pivot point.

Nah yg ditanyain mbah marmut barusan itu penggunaan adaptor (ACOPLABLE) yg menambah panjang r. kl ini hitungannya berubah krn jarak dr pegangan tangan (F) ke sumbu putar (r) berubah panjangnya.

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nah... bener kan ada itungannya..... karena ga mungkin kalo sama saja.

tengkyu mbah penjelasannya. biarkan saya makan dahulu karena liat itungannya bikin laper.

mana ini mi kocok....?
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marmut wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:16 nah... bener kan ada itungannya..... karena ga mungkin kalo sama saja.

tengkyu mbah penjelasannya. biarkan saya makan dahulu karena liat itungannya bikin laper.

mana ini mi kocok....?
Ning jatimerta mbah :big_biglaugh:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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marmut wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:12
jadi bukan hanya acoplable itu merubah angka set tapi juga di tiap TW beda2. krn tiap TW panjang awalnya beda2 sementara total panjang setelah dipasang acoplable yg hrs diperhitungkan.

di 730N/2 coefficient 0.856
di 730N/5 coefficient 0.881

ribet yakkk? justru itu seninya mbah wkwkwkwk
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Ada yg mau indent tang knipex oetiker side and front jaw pincer..?
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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nah tuh Om Indeskey ... Om Givrun take order tuh buat collective buying.

bener kan jatohnya kira2 650rban.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Omnibus wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:15
yanuarra wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:55
kmren2 om omnibus pernah bilang katanya nggk ngaruh...

Tp di tw yg digital ada menu buat nge-set panjang extension yg dipakai kalau mau pakai extension....
Misal pakai extension 50 mili...

Misal statusnya off
IMG_20200831_114358.jpg
Di on kan
IMG_20200831_114415.jpg
Input angka 50 mm
IMG_20200831_114457.jpg

Trus press ok deh
om, maksud sy waktu itu yg ngga ngaruh itu kl pakai extension krn kan sumbu putarnya tetap di poros ratchet, mau berapa pun panjang extensionnya secara teori ga pengaruh krn T = F x r.
T: torque; F: Force; r: Distance from F to pivot point.

Nah yg ditanyain mbah marmut barusan itu penggunaan adaptor (ACOPLABLE) yg menambah panjang r. kl ini hitungannya berubah krn jarak dr pegangan tangan (F) ke sumbu putar (r) berubah panjangnya.

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Hmm brti fungsi setting "extension" di tw yg digital itu apa untuk ngakomodasi panjang r yg berubah itu ya om? :big_think:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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yanuarra wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:31

Hmm brti fungsi setting "extension" di tw yg digital itu apa untuk ngakomodasi panjang r yg berubah itu ya om? :big_think:
99.9% sih saya yakin begitu om. extension disitu maksudnya yg r itu, bukan socket extension yg ke bawah.

curang om tinggal plug in the numbers gitu. :big_cry:

sy jadi ngerasa masih pakai karburator, harus nyeting spuyer main jet, pilot jet. sementara om udah EFI pake piggy back, tinggal pencet2 aje. :big_grin: