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mpvlover wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:09 Singapur udah Orange Alert cuman selevel di bwawah RED ALERT ( blm pernah dideclare)

Smtr di indo ga ada satu pun positip
Reagent belum sampai, jadi detect virus 2019 nCOV gak bisa cepat terdetect
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Turboman wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:07 Wah kayaknya bentar lagi Tissu basah Dettol bisa melejit harga ?

udah ada tanda2......wkwkwkkwk
Tissue basah mah gampang om...
Tinggal beli hydrogen peroxida 3%
Siram aja ke tissue basah yg murah2

Beres perkara hahaha

Kenapa hydrogen peroxida ga populer?
Karena keringnya lebih lama dibanding alkohol atau bleach / chlorine

Hydrogen peroxide biasa dipake buat bakteri/virus/jamur tanaman

Benzalkonium Chloride biasa dipake buat disinfectant ternak? Peralatan ternak? Air minum ternak? (gua kasih tanda? Karena gua sendiri bingung kenapa lebih buat ternak...

Hydrogen peroxide biasa ada di odol pasta gigi yg ada whiteningnya

Benzalkonium Chloride biasanya ada di larutan produk mata atau obat kumur
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Turboman wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:46 ya spt nya Hoax makanya ane gak komen apa2

Btw kalo Hoax ya bilang aja "om itu Hoax deh kayaknya"........nti ane minta om Wira hapus !

Nggak usah lah pake embel2 "masi posting di sini" ??? !!!!!
ya makanya saya nanya dulu, hoax (kah)? false news (kah)?. dan nanya lagi: masih posting disini (untuk apa)?.
dan sesuai netiquete penggunaan tanda seru itu = marah2.
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Salvanost wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:58
Tissue basah mah gampang om...
Tinggal beli hydrogen peroxida 3%
Siram aja ke tissue basah yg murah2

Beres perkara hahaha

Kenapa hydrogen peroxida ga populer?
Karena keringnya lebih lama dibanding alkohol atau bleach / chlorine

Hydrogen peroxide biasa dipake buat bakteri/virus/jamur tanaman
juga perih kalau kebanyakan dosis, apalagi kalau ada lecet2 di tangan.
juga ga "instan"
juga gampang "degrade" kalau kena UV/sinar matahari.

saya pake hydrogen peroxide/h2o2 untuk di dapur, spray, tinggalin saja. beli literan 40 ribuan di toped dengan kadar 40% kalau ga salah. sayangnya di bratachem udah ga boleh jual jadi terpaksa beli onlen jadi mahal di ongkir. alternatif lain kadang di apotik juga ada yg dosis ready use, untuk bersihin kuping tapi ya jatuhnya mahal, dan biasa apotek ada yg jual hasil dilusi sendiri/botolin sendiri/self-made.

Benzalkonium Chloride biasa dipake buat disinfectant ternak? Peralatan ternak? Air minum ternak? (gua kasih tanda? Karena gua sendiri bingung kenapa lebih buat ternak...

Hydrogen peroxide biasa ada di odol pasta gigi yg ada whiteningnya

Benzalkonium Chloride biasanya ada di larutan produk mata atau obat kumur
benzalkonium chloride umum si ya, kayanya segala produk berbau kebersihan dan kesehatan ada.

alternatif lain untuk di rumah ya balik selera asal: alkohol 70% atau cuka makan atau karbol. ada juga minyak sereh. dosis juga rendah kayanya 1:10-100. cuma ada bau2 yg ga semua orang dan ga langsung "instan".
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Salvanost wrote:
Turboman wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:07 Wah kayaknya bentar lagi Tissu basah Dettol bisa melejit harga ?

udah ada tanda2......wkwkwkkwk
Tissue basah mah gampang om...
Tinggal beli hydrogen peroxida 3%
Siram aja ke tissue basah yg murah2

Beres perkara hahaha

Kenapa hydrogen peroxida ga populer?
Karena keringnya lebih lama dibanding alkohol atau bleach / chlorine

Hydrogen peroxide biasa dipake buat bakteri/virus/jamur tanaman

Benzalkonium Chloride biasa dipake buat disinfectant ternak? Peralatan ternak? Air minum ternak? (gua kasih tanda? Karena gua sendiri bingung kenapa lebih buat ternak...

Hydrogen peroxide biasa ada di odol pasta gigi yg ada whiteningnya

Benzalkonium Chloride biasanya ada di larutan produk mata atau obat kumur
H2O2 ye

wah ini banyak dipake di pabrik pulp & paper
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emang gak ada ya bahan dari alam (alamiah) utk menggantikan bahan2 kimia seperti chloride de el el..?? saya sendiri agak serem kalo utk kesehatan pake kimia2 gitu. misal kalo lagi gak enak badan atau agak flu, ya minum jamu biang kunyit dari pada obat flu
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Keren nih video dr Sam Chui

https://youtu.be/_hXwyTppCg8
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iwing wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 16:43 emang gak ada ya bahan dari alam (alamiah) utk menggantikan bahan2 kimia seperti chloride de el el..?? saya sendiri agak serem kalo utk kesehatan pake kimia2 gitu. misal kalo lagi gak enak badan atau agak flu, ya minum jamu biang kunyit dari pada obat flu
Ini pencegahan aja om
Misal lagi keluar nongkrong dimana mau bersihin mejanya
Atau mau bersihin tempat kerja
(pas pulang kerja seluruh ruangan disemprot disinfectant)

Atau ke toilet yg ternyata jorok
Atau di rumah ada rak sepatu sandal kotor mau disemprot biar ga bau?

Atau kaya kata Om Kunas buat semprot dapur

Atau habis beli barang apa gitu mau dibersihin dulu sebelum dipake

Bahkan barang2 supermarket aja sebenarnya kalau kitanya paranoid bisa aja mikirnya itu barang udah kena sentuh berapa tangan sebelum kita sentuh?

Bahan alami ada ga?
Ada... Tapi minyak semua om...
Essential oil yg biasa buat aromatherapy

Itu minyak ga praktis banget
Contoh simpel

Minyak kayu putih

Siapa sih yg cuci tangan pake minyak kayu putih?
Atau lap barang atau meja atau benda yg mau dimainin anak pake minyak kayu putih?

Atau misalnya punya mobil
Mau dibersihin interiornya?
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sudah ketemu obatnya dari indonesia....namanya WU CORN....

sakti orang indo modal jampi...komat kamit...


mknya org indo kbanyakan kebal penyakit....banyak ahli jampi....

cuma kbanyakan kena virus bokek dan hutang.... :big_weee:

mknya kbanyakan haluuuuuuu..... :big_biglaugh:


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kompresorz wrote:sudah ketemu obatnya dari indonesia....namanya WU CORN....

sakti orang indo modal jampi...komat kamit...


mknya org indo kbanyakan kebal penyakit....banyak ahli jampi....

cuma kbanyakan kena virus bokek dan hutang.... :big_weee:

mknya kbanyakan haluuuuuuu..... :big_biglaugh:


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Tp JAKARTA KONON AMAN dr coronavirus

Krn penelitian WHO terbaru katanya virus ncov ini kan karena baru lahir di dunia, virus-virus ini GA BISA BERENANG

Jadi pada mati tenggelem di batavia

Inilah penjelasan knp ga ada kasus di endonesia
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mpvlover wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:29 Tp JAKARTA KONON AMAN dr coronavirus

Krn penelitian WHO terbaru katanya virus ncov ini kan karena baru lahir di dunia, virus-virus ini GA BISA BERENANG

Jadi pada mati tenggelem di batavia

Inilah penjelasan knp ga ada kasus di endonesia
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maklum banyak terjangkit virus bokek n hutang....


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https://health.detik.com/berita-detikhe ... 1557832471

Kl baca artikel ini, data angka kematian akibat corona virus jadi terlihat aneh.

Krematorium di wuhan saja bakar 100 mayat per hari mulai 28 januari.

Tapi angka official dari pemerintah China yg meninggal cm 800an orang saat ini.

Hari ini Chengdu di lock down,

Kmrn Guangzou di lock down.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... h-ski-town
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Bos di hlm seblmnya ada angka yg konon riil dr tencent
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mpvlover wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:19 Bos di hlm seblmnya ada angka yg konon riil dr tencent
Kl itu ane udah baca beritanya bos. Memang sepertinya itu lebih valid.

Ane share artikel ini buat menunjukkan ga masuk akalnya data resmi dari pemerintah.
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mr_mytplx wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:08 https://health.detik.com/berita-detikhe ... 1557832471

Kl baca artikel ini, data angka kematian akibat corona virus jadi terlihat aneh.

Krematorium di wuhan saja bakar 100 mayat per hari mulai 28 januari.

Tapi angka official dari pemerintah China yg meninggal cm 800an orang saat ini.

Hari ini Chengdu di lock down,

Kmrn Guangzou di lock down.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... h-ski-town
Kemungkinan besar...
Saking ramenya rumah sakit...

Sampai2 penderita penyakit kritis lainnya ga bisa menjalani perawatan yg layak...

Atau yg sakit ngeri keluar rumah

Ini kenapa gua bilang vaksin flu aja
Kalau masuk Indonesia pasti penuh banget rumah sakit di Indonesia...
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angka kematian sangat stabil di 2,1% :big_think:



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Ya ampunnn

Ternyata 200an org yg dikarantina di natuna itu ga dites krn pemerintah bilang bisa mahal

Baca disini :

That Friday, Indonesia also announced that it was preparing to evacuate nationals stranded in Wuhan with 238 people subsequently evacuated with four stating that they were comfortable with staying behind and three not being able to pass the screening to be fit to travel.

The evacuated passengers, along with the flight crew, have been quarantined at a military facility on Natuna Besar Island, near the waters where the Indonesian navy had a standoff with Chinese vessels only last month over a territorial incursion incident.

Although, on Feb 6, the authorities said they had yet to test those quarantined in Natuna for the virus as they are not showing any symptoms. The cost for carrying out tests can also be prohibitive, the health ministry noted.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/co ... s-12400798
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Sumber lain yg memuat berita sama :

Concerns growing about lack of apparent cases in Indonesia. 243 Indonesian nationals evacuated from Wuhan were not tested on arrival back to Indonesia “as they all look healthy and the tests are expensive”, although they have been quarantined.

https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/2020 ... untry.html
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kompresorz wrote:
mpvlover wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:29 Tp JAKARTA KONON AMAN dr coronavirus

Krn penelitian WHO terbaru katanya virus ncov ini kan karena baru lahir di dunia, virus-virus ini GA BISA BERENANG

Jadi pada mati tenggelem di batavia

Inilah penjelasan knp ga ada kasus di endonesia
:big_biglaugh:



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krn msh bnyk penduduknya yang haluuuuu.....

maklum banyak terjangkit virus bokek n hutang....


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Rasanya gini

Bukan blm ada yg positip tpp blm ada yg meninggal aja

Krn fatality cukup rendah

Nah yg dirawat akhirnya udah pada sembuh kaya di negara lain

Tp bukan berarti negatip semua tp krn ga ada reagen ya ga bs muncul positip
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Australian Matthew Hale told the Herald and Age that he had presented on January 26 at Denpasar's Sanglah hospital after he fell seriously ill following a trip to Singapore.

"The first hospital said they couldn’t help me and sent me to Sanglah. I got sent around all over the place [at Sanglah] and eventually found the right place, the doctor asked if I had been in China and I said no, so they said they couldn’t test for it," he said.

"At no point did she [the doctor] offer to do blood tests or take my temperature or anything."

Hale criticised the help available to foreign visitors to Bali. Australia and China are the top two sources of tourists to Bali, with about a million citizens from each nation visiting the island in 2019.

"There isn't anything in place, there isn’t even a helpline. So for foreigners who may have a problem, who do they ring? No one. All you can do is get on a plane and go home – but then you are making others on the plane vulnerable," he said.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/who-c ... 53xzj.html
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Wah ga ada yg peduli

Liat aja deh kalo menyebar
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Kalau tisu basah atau baby wet wipes gitu sudah ada antisepticnya ga ya?

Untuk bunuh virus bakteri gitu om?