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Carens 3 di koreanya mah udah keluar...kita aja nih selalu dapetnya telat....
di US aja carens 3 udah dilaunch namanya Kia Rondo....carens generasi pertama yang masuk pasar US.
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Namanya asyik banget tuh Kia Gen 1 yg di USA. Kia Rondo. Kalo masuk Indo bisa jadi "Kia Rondo Muda".. :D
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Wah kalo "Kia Rondo Muda" penumpangnya cuma boleh satu orang tuh bos Uch....kalo dinaekin berlima bisa dirazia polisi atau FPI...hehehe.... :e-naughty:
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Lha... koq dirazia bos. Jgn2 pengen naek (Kia) Rondo Muda jg...?? :D :D
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speedy208 wrote:Bung sens, wah hebat juga yah carens bisa di diskon sampe 35 jt... worthed banget tuh
Dari cerita bung sens sepertinya cukup puas dengan carens yah... boleh dipertimbangkan nih
mungkin ada masukan dari yg lain lagi?
Bung speedy208,
mau nambahin sedikit nih ... carens II (dan jg yg carens I) krg mumpuni di tanjakan (dgn AC).
dulu malah sampai ada bengkel kecil KIA dekat pertigaan taman safari, krn bnyk yg overheat. Kl di jalan tol/lurus-lurus saja sih OK deh, teman sy dulu pk carens I aja bisa 195-200 Kpj.
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HarKres wrote:
speedy208 wrote:Bung sens, wah hebat juga yah carens bisa di diskon sampe 35 jt... worthed banget tuh
Dari cerita bung sens sepertinya cukup puas dengan carens yah... boleh dipertimbangkan nih
mungkin ada masukan dari yg lain lagi?
Bung speedy208,
mau nambahin sedikit nih ... carens II (dan jg yg carens I) krg mumpuni di tanjakan (dgn AC).
dulu malah sampai ada bengkel kecil KIA dekat pertigaan taman safari, krn bnyk yg overheat. Kl di jalan tol/lurus-lurus saja sih OK deh, teman sy dulu pk carens I aja bisa 195-200 Kpj.
klo urusan tanjakan mah, hidup APV... 8)
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kl tanjak'an nya maut, civic matic yg 1.7 (model 2001-2006) jg kempas kempis lho.. *pengalaman pribadi*
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johnlegend wrote:kl tanjak'an nya maut, civic matic yg 1.7 (model 2001-2006) jg kempas kempis lho.. *pengalaman pribadi*
betul, gw dulu juga pake Stream 1.7 A/T ampe kayak mo ngeden 'bab' (buang air besar) di tanjakan Brastagi... :e-naughty: [/b]
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Hansen wrote:
johnlegend wrote:kl tanjak'an nya maut, civic matic yg 1.7 (model 2001-2006) jg kempas kempis lho.. *pengalaman pribadi*
betul, gw dulu juga pake Stream 1.7 A/T ampe kayak mo ngeden 'bab' (buang air besar) di tanjakan Brastagi... :e-naughty: [/b]
buat tanjakan si biasa pake kapsul solar deh..
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berisik tuh pake kapsul solar...ngeeeng.....ngrenggg... :lol:
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kapsul solar (dulu pernah pake, berisik tapi gak ngos-ngosan)...ngeeeng.....ngrenggg... :lol:

pake X-Trail 2.5 paling muantafff.... :D
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yup.. asep nya jg heboh.. hehehe..
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Tanjakan pake Isuzu ELF aja sekalian..Hehehehe
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hehehe.. pake becak aja deh..
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pake skuter aja deh...
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pake skuter aja deh...
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Bagi gw sederhana aja...
Kalo bandinginnya dgn City / Jazz,
GL tuh iritnya kayak iDSI, tapi larinya kayak VTEC
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sens wrote: GL menurut gua belum terbukti apa2 selain indennya aja yang udah kebablasan (ini aja bisa buat GL dibenci orang)
Soal GL belum terbukti apa-apa sebenernya sih ga juga, kan di autobild liga irit 2 dah terbukti paling irit, malah jazz idsi yg gembar gembor irit banget kalah tuh, jadi siapa nipu siapa nih? :D
Menurut gua khusus liga irit 2 tuh majalah juga kgk fair, masa dalam waktu bersamaan dia juga buktiin test innova bisa irit 1:16 km, jadi siapa lebih ketepu lagi? kita sebagai pembaca diajak dukungan2 eh dilembar yang lain majalah itu dukung merek itu? hehehe namanya aja negeri bbm.
Terus kalau kita lihat di majalah Auto Car (kalau tidak salah) edisi ulang tahun ke 7 di sana jelas sekali head to head GL dengan banyak mobil.
Gua sendiri sih tidak makai salah satu merek itu, gua pada akhirnya dp in carens 2, nyaman (udah terbukti di uerope dan murmer (murah meriah) sih ongkos beli cuma 118jt OTR dan perawatannya, resalenya juga ok kok.
Selamat bertanding deh antara GL dan musuh2nya aku tidak bertanggung jawab kalau terjadi pertumpahan bbm disini hehehe[/quote]

Tes liga irit autobild (GL vs jazz/city) Ini ga compared kali, transmisi Manual(GL) vs Matic(jazz/city).
Kalo mau, tes GL yg matic juga, yg udah pasti (kalo liat dari hasil tes tsb): jadi kalah irit, or jadi2nya iritnya GL dekat ke vtec yg matic? Hmm.... Uncovered tricks?
Jelas2 generasi mesin nya juga beda, i-dsi (ketinggalan satu generasi) ini udah keliatan tua nya udah mau tamat, krn jazz/city soon.. udah mau keluar dgn mesin generasi baru yg pasti beyond expectation kan, as always.. just wait...
Nah baru deh compare !
Yg produsen lain ikut2an tren produsen perintis belakangan aja bikin mesin yg irit jg trus klaim paling irit deh, hmm.. sounds quite easier.
Kalo berani compare overall performance SAAT INI, compare R18A (civic hatchback 8th gen <== disini adanya sedan) vs MR18DE (latio), note: R18A masih SOHC, MR18DE=DOHC, tapi bolehlah.
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/R18A/index.html
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/RiVTEC/index.html
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lama2 agak males beli autocar.. bnyk "titipan nya" dulu si rutin.. kl skrg tunggu ada info yg gw butuh..
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liongkiky wrote:Tes liga irit autobild (GL vs jazz/city) Ini ga compared kali, transmisi Manual(GL) vs Matic(jazz/city).
Kalo mau, tes GL yg matic juga, yg udah pasti (kalo liat dari hasil tes tsb): jadi kalah irit, or jadi2nya iritnya GL dekat ke vtec yg matic? Hmm.... Uncovered tricks?
bos, kalo jazz/city yang pake matic CVT 7speed itu karena jazz/city yang matic CVT lebih irit daripada yang manual, jadi yang dipake untuk test liga irit harus pake matic biar irit...
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liongkiky wrote: Tes liga irit autobild (GL vs jazz/city) Ini ga compared kali, transmisi Manual(GL) vs Matic(jazz/city).
Kalo mau, tes GL yg matic juga, yg udah pasti (kalo liat dari hasil tes tsb): jadi kalah irit, or jadi2nya iritnya GL dekat ke vtec yg matic? Hmm.... Uncovered tricks?
Jelas2 generasi mesin nya juga beda, i-dsi (ketinggalan satu generasi) ini udah keliatan tua nya udah mau tamat, krn jazz/city soon.. udah mau keluar dgn mesin generasi baru yg pasti beyond expectation kan, as always.. just wait...
Nah baru deh compare !
Yg produsen lain ikut2an tren produsen perintis belakangan aja bikin mesin yg irit jg trus klaim paling irit deh, hmm.. sounds quite easier.
Kalo berani compare overall performance SAAT INI, compare R18A (civic hatchback 8th gen <== disini adanya sedan) vs MR18DE (latio), note: R18A masih SOHC, MR18DE=DOHC, tapi bolehlah.
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/R18A/index.html
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/RiVTEC/index.html
Yg di test di AB no 110 itu khan baik City maupun Jazz adalah yg iDSI, gak ada yg VTEC
mengenai Matic, setau saya utk Jazz/City versi CVT (matic) lebih irit daripada yg manual.

Sementara kalo teknologi, ya karena yg beredar di pasaran (by ATPM) adanya yg itu, mungkin nanti kalo ada
Jazz/City dgn mesin lebih baru pasti akan dilakukan perbandingan lagi utk kosumsi bensinnya.

Kalo compare SAAT INI menurut anda Civic Hatchback 8th gen dgn latio, ya bisa2 aja diusulkan ke AB,
tapi khan civic HB tsb gak dijual oleh HPM.
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saya mo permisi.. maaf ama yg bikin threat.. saya mo numpang..

tlg buka threat tentang Air Car

http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... 947#109947

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Mike wrote:
liongkiky wrote: Tes liga irit autobild (GL vs jazz/city) Ini ga compared kali, transmisi Manual(GL) vs Matic(jazz/city).
Kalo mau, tes GL yg matic juga, yg udah pasti (kalo liat dari hasil tes tsb): jadi kalah irit, or jadi2nya iritnya GL dekat ke vtec yg matic? Hmm.... Uncovered tricks?
Jelas2 generasi mesin nya juga beda, i-dsi (ketinggalan satu generasi) ini udah keliatan tua nya udah mau tamat, krn jazz/city soon.. udah mau keluar dgn mesin generasi baru yg pasti beyond expectation kan, as always.. just wait...
Nah baru deh compare !
Yg produsen lain ikut2an tren produsen perintis belakangan aja bikin mesin yg irit jg trus klaim paling irit deh, hmm.. sounds quite easier.
Kalo berani compare overall performance SAAT INI, compare R18A (civic hatchback 8th gen <== disini adanya sedan) vs MR18DE (latio), note: R18A masih SOHC, MR18DE=DOHC, tapi bolehlah.
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/R18A/index.html
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/RiVTEC/index.html
Yg di test di AB no 110 itu khan baik City maupun Jazz adalah yg iDSI, gak ada yg VTEC
mengenai Matic, setau saya utk Jazz/City versi CVT (matic) lebih irit daripada yg manual.
mau nambahin doank. kalo dibaca dengan teliti, di autobild ada dijelaskan, mobil2 itu bukan semata2 autobild yg milih. TAPI mobil2 itu yg disediakan/diberikan ATPM untuk di test liga irit 2. tentu saja ATPM2 mengirim mobil2nya yg paling irit menurut ATPM donk....
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johnlegend wrote:lama2 agak males beli autocar.. bnyk "titipan nya" dulu si rutin.. kl skrg tunggu ada info yg gw butuh..
yang nge test AUTOBILD om... bukan AUTOCAR.....
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Ya namanya aja Liga Irit,masa ama ATPM dikasi boil2 yg boros,ntar ga ada yg beli tu boil, kalo uda tau kons. BBMnya bisa kaget tu..Hehehe..Btw, satu lagi yg gw agak bingung, masa kons. BBM dalam kota Honda jazz idsi lebih boros daripada toyota Yaris??Koq kliatannya ga masuk akal ya..
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