[Need Advice] Mercedes W211 E280 7G-Tronic 9th Edition OR BMW 325i E90 LCI

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[Need Advice] Mercedes W211 E280 7G-Tronic 9th Edition OR BMW 325i E90 LCI

Post by KielConstantine »

Sesuai judul. Gw lagi galau antara 2 mobil tersebut.
Rencana mau keep untuk jangka panjang jadi mobil koleksi pribadi.
Dan bisa jadi collector item yang bakal punya nilai historic kedepannya.


Mercedes W211 E280 9th Edition. Edisi spesial khusus pasar Indonesia.. Mesin M272 V6 Naturally Aspirated.. Air Suspension..
Hanya di jual 100 unit untuk pasar Indonesia..? (cmiiw)
Ini sebenernya kandidat terkuat.


Atau BMW E90 325i facelift terakhir LCI (Life Cycle Improvement) ..
Inline-6 Naturally Aspirated terakhir (mesin N53B30) dari BMW sebelom masuk era Turbo di F30 335i (N55).
Sebenernya di E90 335i jg ada mesin N54 twin turbo, tapi kg masuk ke pasar Indo.


Kenapa tiba2 punya pikiran murtad ke BMW?
Alesan utama karena naksir sama i-Drive nya... W211 is tooo old for that.. I'm 26 years old. Cmon!
Kedua, the legendary BMW Inline-6 N/A terakhir (N53). Ketiga driving experience nya..

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Pengen denger suara atmospheric dari mesin NA yg bisa di rev sampe mentok.
Dan nanggung aja mobil german bgini klo pake yg 4 cylinder.. Minimal 6 or 8 or 10 lah? E60 M5 ? loll

Memang sih kg apple to apple.. Moso E-Klasse di banding sama Serie 3.. uwkwk
Klo serie-5 paling adanya 523i (E60) rasanya kurang aja..
Mau cari 530i rare banget sejenis dengan E90 330i. Super rare item.



Btw ini picture nya supaya lebih gampang ngebayangin:

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W211 E280 9th Edition.


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E90 325i LCI





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E280 9th Edition saja kalau mau yang potensi collector's item...

325i LCI kalo mau yang potensi collector's item, cari yang M-Edition th 2012...

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Sama-sama edisi terakhir dari life cycle mobil tersebut.

Kalo yang biasa sya rasa potensi untuk jadi collector's item nya kecil... Kecuali Coupe.

Tapi nyetir nya pasti kalo masih muda lebih doyan 325i ketimbang E280...
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Vote for W211 E280 , karena lebih berpotensi jadi collector item's karena om ts bilang populasinya cuma 100 unit di Indonesia, btw bener tuh kata om chz , kalo umurnya masih muda & doyan nyetir sendiri mending E90 aja, tapi kalo mau yg collector item mending cari yg M-Edition tahun 2012. Tapi saran saya, kalo mau mobil eropa yg bakal dikeep jangka panjang & jadi collector item sebaiknya jangan cari yg sedan 4 pintu , lebih baik cari yg jenisnya aneh2 kaya coupe , cabriolet / station wagon. terus varian terkencangnya juga bisa dipertimbangkan, kaya versi. AMG / M sportsnya gitu
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Post by michaelgiri93 »

Entah kenapa saya lebih demen beemer daripada merc, tapi
Berhubung w211nya lebih rare kejar w211 nya aja om
Tapi kalau emg suka rasanya e90 go for e90
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Post by Naruto »

Tolong kalau ada yang koreksi.
Setahu saya, 325i facelift di indo masi pake engine yang lama N52B25.
Beda dengan N52B25 vs N53B30:
- 2500cc vs 3000 cc
- Hp sama persis
- 250 nm vs 270 nm.

Sama dengan 320i e90 facelift. Mesin nya tetep pake N46 (150an Hp 200 nm). N43 (170 hp 210 nm) ga dimasukin indo.
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model w211 facelift sama non fl, ga terlalu banyak beda, model udah usang tahun dr tahun 2002.
w211 E280 7g tronic mungkin harganya bisa bertahan layanya W124 MP.

E90 325i Lci lebih mending, modelnya masih up to date masih keren tp harus ambil yg M-package/M-Sport cmiiw wkwk ga ngerti2 bgt bmw.
harga masih bisa bertahan layaknya BMW 330i E46.

buat usia under 30 yg masih suka sradak sruduk enakan E90 325i, E280 mobil priyayi, power deliverynya halus sekali.

kayanya E60 530i 2008/2009 juga menarik.

tp kalo mau harganya yg bertahan di negeri ini ya kalo ga tipe wagon ya coupe. tp ya dijual ga segampang itu harus sama2 hobby
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Post by ricz »

Kalo buat collector item sih di antara 2 pilihan itu ttp pegang E280 9 edition, kalo bisa yg lengkap sama iPodnya (kalo ga salah dikasi iPod pas pembelian ini mobil)

3 series kl mau dikeep mending yg Coupe ato Cabrio sekalian...
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Kalo buat driver oriented bmw lebih gimana gitu deh hahahaha tapi karna om ts nyarinya untuk collector item mungkin W211 apalagi cuma 100 unit kata om ts...
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w211 e280 9th edition sebenarnya hanya gimmick ATPM pada waktu itu (CMIIW). Diluaran airmatic w211 merupakan optional yg bisa dipilih konsumen. Dan sayangnya lagi hanya suspensi belakang nya saja yang airmatic (rata2 user sdh diganti shock blkg biasa krn alasan ekonomis seiring umur). Tp harus diakui e280 W211 merupakan mobil yang enak dan improvement cukup banyak dari w211 pra facelift dan bebas masalah SBC.
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Kalo menurut saya 2 2 nya belum masuk kategori kolektor item. Harga dari 2 2 nya juga saya perhatiin tiap tahun turun terus koq ga bertahan.. W211 9th edition 2009 yg kayak di foto TS dijual di sorum daerah permata hijau di angka 260 jt kalo ga salah, turun jauh dr tahun lalu yg masih 325 jt an. Kalo 325 M edition bulan lalu ada di poskota tahun 2012 lakunya di angka 300 jt pemakai, kalo pdg masih diangka 325 jt an. Sama turun juga dr tahun lalu yg masih 360 jt up. Kalo kektor item harusnya stabil ya harganya kayak LC VX80, TJ, YJ dll.. kalo mau W211 ambil yang E55 gan buat koleksi, kalo E90 ambil yg 330 cabrio.. harganya nahan tuh ga turun2. Atau ga ambil M3 E92. Pendapat nubie gitu gan.. :big_peace:
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Post by newrubble »

kalo pilihan cuma dua itu sesuai title ya pilih (yg full original) benz bye bye edition dgn catatan smua hrs full factory original n tdk ada apapun yg ilang

pengalaman kel sy dulu piara benz 190d ponton ex djakarta city cab (asian games taxi) dgn argometer tetap nempel di atas fender kiri depan

sy sering jaman skolah sampe kuliah di antar di jemput pake itu n sy diamkan sj mobil apa adanya

pas di jual thn 2000n yg mau beli bisa sy bilang rebutan n malah ada yg marah krn mobil sdh di beli org n di bawa kluar indo

ini kita bicara longterm beneran bukan speculative fikiran untung vs rugi itungan sepuluh atau ratusan juta rupiah short term ya
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Iya untuk merc selama super original bisa nahan harganya.. klo bmw mending 330cci e46 fix harga anteng hehe..
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Hampir semua mobil pasti turun harganya di usia muda.
Pas usia pertengah, yg collector item, harga sdh nahan. Tp mobil biasa drop trus.
Pas usia tua, collector item makin gak jelas, seenak udel p3njual harganya. Dan anehnya mau aja org beli.
Sementara mobil biasa berakhir di Madura lenteng agung, cipayung, atau sawangan.

Nah, test buat oom TS :
10 thn dr srkarang oom TS msh mau pakai ?
Masih senang nyetir ngebut, sradag sruduk jiwa muda ?
Mobil mana yg kelihatan masih seger 10 thn lagi

Sorry to say, jrg liat bmw seger usia diatas 20 thn
Mercy msh banyak.w124 couple khususnya

Nah, kalau sy jadi TS sy akan ambil mercy.

Makin tua nanti oom, makin cinta.
Kalau sekarang pasti msh pingin mbejek bmw




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Post by turbine888 »

Kalo butuh collector item dan rencana buat koleksi & bukan pakai daily why not ambil e46 330ci atau c124 300ce, g gitu sekalian clk?

Klo cari yang masih praktis dan bisa daily bisa cari estate. :big_okay:

Benz and Bimmer 2 doors atau estate tuh makin tua nilainya makin naik ga karuan krn jumlah populasi yg langka.

Saya bru aja kapanhari liat s212 dan gantengnya bukan main tuh klo liat lgsg :big_love:

Bukti harga sih liat aja harganya s212 yg estate dibanding w212.
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atau beli sj benz 300ge kalo mau cepet dpt spread......siapin antara rp 650-750jt u dpt kan unit yg masih factory original.........10 thn lalu mrk masih di level 350-400juta
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Pengen mobil untuk bersenang senang dengan potensi jadi collector item bisa banget pertimbangkan E46 ci, ada budget lebih coba sikat e92. Mau dari kubu merc coba clk 320 W208 atau W209 kalau ada budget lebih.
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sama gan,saya juga lagi nyari ganti buat accord, rencana mau ambil 325i yg lci cuman dsni saya jadi bingung kok ada M edition e90 325i,dari kedua type yg saya sebutkan apa memang beda ato gmn y ?trus klo emang beda letak nya dmn aja? krn yg saya tau cuma perbedaan di 320i sama 325i itu aja sih, :big_sorry: maaf bnr2 kurang tau
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newrubble wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2017 17:47 atau beli sj benz 300ge kalo mau cepet dpt spread......siapin antara rp 650-750jt u dpt kan unit yg masih factory original.........10 thn lalu mrk masih di level 350-400juta
setuju sama ini, kalo mau collector item geser ke 461/460 atau sekalian 463 mas he he

btw sekarang udah 800+ om, di bawah itu biasanya bahan
(curhat baru kena racun gklas)
tapi namanya suka yah
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Btw....kombinasi factor" apa utk m'nentukan dia punya dna future classic?

Limited population?
Special edition?
Strong Historical winner...@rally/balap?
2doors coupe/cabrio?
Top performance version...AMG/STI/M pwr?

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jivos wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:37 Btw....kombinasi factor" apa utk m'nentukan dia punya dna future classic?

Limited population?
Special edition?
Strong Historical winner...@rally/balap?
2doors coupe/cabrio?
Top performance version...AMG/STI/M pwr?

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Prediksi ane 2 type diatas bkn mdl future classic/hrg naik
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Teamtam wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:16 sama gan,saya juga lagi nyari ganti buat accord, rencana mau ambil 325i yg lci cuman dsni saya jadi bingung kok ada M edition e90 325i,dari kedua type yg saya sebutkan apa memang beda ato gmn y ?trus klo emang beda letak nya dmn aja? krn yg saya tau cuma perbedaan di 320i sama 325i itu aja sih, :big_sorry: maaf bnr2 kurang tau
M edition ada beberapa perbedaan kalo ga salah dia uda M steering wheel, M aero package, ama vleg jg beda. Kebetulan bokap pernah pake keduanya walaupun beda trim, dan E90nya sempet diwarisin ke saya. Kalo under 30 mending ambil E90 si asal dpt barang bagus. Driving experiencenya W211 ga bisa ngalahin sih. E90 saya pake 5 thn jual dengan masalah steering rack. W211 preFL SBCnya aman selama 8 thn pake tp steering rack harus ganti thn ke 4. Benerin waktu itu 45juta. Maklum yg pake kebanyakan supir :big_childish:
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pertama global / local rarity
trus durability
production theme
tapi yg jelas idung kita hrs tajem u cium kira kira 20 atau 30 thn kedepan mau jadi apa itu barang
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kalau buat long term usage, sebenernya denger2 E90 agak kurang reliable di seal2 mesinnya + steer rack.. CMIIW

kalo boleh tau di budget berapa sih ? 200an ?
setuju sama komen2 diatas mendingan cari model coupe kalo mau buat collectible item..
di harganya E90 sbenernya ada lawan di W204, cuma mgkn mesinnya kurang kalo dari kriterianya :ngacir: :ngacir:
kalau dapet sih, saya mending E60 :big_biglaugh:
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adityawei wrote:kalau buat long term usage, sebenernya denger2 E90 agak kurang reliable di seal2 mesinnya + steer rack.. CMIIW

kalo boleh tau di budget berapa sih ? 200an ?
setuju sama komen2 diatas mendingan cari model coupe kalo mau buat collectible item..
di harganya E90 sbenernya ada lawan di W204, cuma mgkn mesinnya kurang kalo dari kriterianya :ngacir: :ngacir:
kalau dapet sih, saya mending E60 :big_biglaugh:
330Ci E92... Kalo BMW wajib beli seri 325 up sie... Dengerin raungan 6 silinder NA khas. TS juga katanya kangen suara NA.

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ChZ wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:06 330Ci E92... Kalo BMW wajib beli seri 325 up sie... Dengerin raungan 6 silinder NA khas. TS juga katanya kangen suara NA.

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