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Taufiq6210 wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:39
Omnibus wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:11 side note: hati2 ngencengin pakai TW dlm keadaan ulir basah oli. meski sdh set torque value aslinya bisa jd overtorque krn adanya oli.
Tadi waktu masang lagi cuma ngelap businya aja... tapi sekarang jadi kepikiran kalau ulir di busi basah, berarti ulir di head juga harusnya basah dong
businya semacam pengapian no 2 dan 3 tidak sempurna yha pak..,mungkin perlu pembersihan saluran angin( TB dll) + pengecekan pengapian ,atau bisa jadi kebocoran kompresi melalui sela2 ulir busi..? CMIIW.
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Taufiq6210 wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:39
Omnibus wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:11 side note: hati2 ngencengin pakai TW dlm keadaan ulir basah oli. meski sdh set torque value aslinya bisa jd overtorque krn adanya oli.
Tadi waktu masang lagi cuma ngelap businya aja... tapi sekarang jadi kepikiran kalau ulir di busi basah, berarti ulir di head juga harusnya basah dong
iya itu biasanya disemprot carb cleaner dulu (ulir di) lubangnya.

ga apa2 lah udah terjadi. oleh sendiri ini bukan sm org lain. :mky_03:
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gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:01
kalo saya kencengin busi biasa pakai kunci asli bawaan toyota..,sesuai dengan yang di kotak NGK ( mau yg NGK atau denso + pakai penggaris jangka busur untuk pemandu sudutnya :big_biglaugh: ) sama aja caranya..bisanya di lap dulu ulir busi dan lubangnya..
nahh mirip sm mbah rektor klep tuh, bedanya dia besi puterannya disambung pipa 60 cm ditarik sm 2 org mekanik cungkring sampe kreekk kreeek takkk.


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Omnibus wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:32
gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:01
kalo saya kencengin busi biasa pakai kunci asli bawaan toyota..,sesuai dengan yang di kotak NGK ( mau yg NGK atau denso + pakai penggaris jangka busur untuk pemandu sudutnya :big_biglaugh: ) sama aja caranya..bisanya di lap dulu ulir busi dan lubangnya..
nahh mirip sm mbah rektor klep tuh, bedanya dia besi puterannya disambung pipa 60 cm ditarik sm 2 org mekanik cungkring sampe kreekk kreeek takkk.


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gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 0:58 29739263_c803411a-dfdd-4b85-8d8b-29008fbbeceb_888_888.jpgsemalam ada rencana mau ambil kampas rem MK kashiyama cuman ingin tanya dikit bedanya apa yha yg kuning dan hitam? untuk innova
Yg hitam kemasan baru kayanya pak gentong
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yanuarra wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:11
gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 0:58 29739263_c803411a-dfdd-4b85-8d8b-29008fbbeceb_888_888.jpgsemalam ada rencana mau ambil kampas rem MK kashiyama cuman ingin tanya dikit bedanya apa yha yg kuning dan hitam? untuk innova
Yg hitam kemasan baru kayanya pak gentong
ok makasih Pak Yanuarra.. :big_exellent: , krn ada liat di forum oto**..,brakpad depan ada yg warna biru dan merah..,beda kualitas ..,sapa tau yg ini ada beda kualitas juga.
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Taufiq6210 wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:03 Karena ngobrolin tentang suara cekleknya 730/12 kalau di settingan torsi rendah (25-30Nm) sama Om Dat510, jadinya tadi pagi coba buka-pasang busi deh...

itu pake kunci 16mm mbah? menurut catetan saya, tightening torque-nya 25~30 n.m, tapi saya biasanya kasih antara 18~22 n.m aja.
daripada keenakan ngencengin tau-tau tugel businya, kan kerjaan lagi.....
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marmut wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:42
itu pake kunci 16mm mbah? menurut catetan saya, tightening torque-nya 25~30 n.m, tapi saya biasanya kasih antara 18~22 n.m aja.
daripada keenakan ngencengin tau-tau tugel businya, kan kerjaan lagi.....
malu sama baju .... udah sablon stahlwille segala

kaya ga tau aja kl 730/12 itu dr 25 s/d 130 Nm

mana bisa 18~22 Nm ...... :big_bored:


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marmut wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:42
Taufiq6210 wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:03 Karena ngobrolin tentang suara cekleknya 730/12 kalau di settingan torsi rendah (25-30Nm) sama Om Dat510, jadinya tadi pagi coba buka-pasang busi deh...

itu pake kunci 16mm mbah? menurut catetan saya, tightening torque-nya 25~30 n.m, tapi saya biasanya kasih antara 18~22 n.m aja.
daripada keenakan ngencengin tau-tau tugel businya, kan kerjaan lagi.....
Kalo udah sesuai spec masa bisa tugel mbah?
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Omnibus wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:51
marmut wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:42
itu pake kunci 16mm mbah? menurut catetan saya, tightening torque-nya 25~30 n.m, tapi saya biasanya kasih antara 18~22 n.m aja.
daripada keenakan ngencengin tau-tau tugel businya, kan kerjaan lagi.....
malu sama baju .... udah sablon stahlwille segala

kaya ga tau aja kl 730/12 itu dr 25 s/d 130 Nm

mana bisa 18~22 Nm ...... :big_bored:


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betul abah shifu, 25~130 n.m.
dan yang diatas adalah pernyataan bagian 1.
pernyataan bagian 2 adalah :
saya ngencengin pake manoskop 730 na/5, set di 15 lbs. ft atau 20,4 n.m (maksimum).

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yanuarra wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:15
Kalo udah sesuai spec masa bisa tugel mbah?

antara tugel atau dol. dicoba aja.
ahir taun lalu saya bikin slek drain plug oil pan. spek minta antara 27~33 n.m (aluminum), saya kasih 25 udah blooong.... bautè muter-muter kaya komidi puter.
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marmut wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:39
yanuarra wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:15
Kalo udah sesuai spec masa bisa tugel mbah?

antara tugel atau dol. dicoba aja.
ahir taun lalu saya bikin slek drain plug oil pan. spek minta antara 27~33 n.m (aluminum), saya kasih 25 udah blooong.... bautè muter-muter kaya komidi puter.
pakai gasket crush..? saya spec toyota 38NM (28ft.lb)..,pakai yg torque jarum punya waktu itu masuk 27++ mau ke 28fb.lb..,kasih gasket crush..,jantung aja ampe deg2an pas mendekati 28 :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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marmut wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:39
yanuarra wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:15
Kalo udah sesuai spec masa bisa tugel mbah?

antara tugel atau dol. dicoba aja.
ahir taun lalu saya bikin slek drain plug oil pan. spek minta antara 27~33 n.m (aluminum), saya kasih 25 udah blooong.... bautè muter-muter kaya komidi puter.
tugel itu apa Pak Marmut..,saya serch di google malah keluar paling atas judul lagu TUGEL by Anggun Pramuditia :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:48
tugel itu apa Pak Marmut..,saya serch di google malah keluar paling atas judul lagu TUGEL by Anggun Pramuditia :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

itu, as kopelnya mbah delco hampir tugel karena keseringan dibalance.









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gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:44
pakai gasket crush..? saya spec toyota 38NM (28ft.lb)..,pakai yg torque jarum punya waktu itu masuk 27++ mau ke 28fb.lb..,kasih gasket crush..,jantung aja ampe deg2an pas mendekati 28 :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
berikutnya supaya ga deg2an minum viagr* dulu pak gentong





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marmut wrote:
yanuarra wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:15
Kalo udah sesuai spec masa bisa tugel mbah?

antara tugel atau dol. dicoba aja.
ahir taun lalu saya bikin slek drain plug oil pan. spek minta antara 27~33 n.m (aluminum), saya kasih 25 udah blooong.... bautè muter-muter kaya komidi puter.
Saya juga pernah NUGELin baut gardan kuda besi yamahmut, itu yg bikin manual book motor entah mabok apa gimana, bolt oli mesin sama gardan sama torque nya di 20N.m padahal beda diameter ulir nya. Kalau baut oli mesin samping sih aman pake TW lippro ceklek, nah yg gardan nggak ceklek tapi losssss ewer2.

Skg kalau baut oli2an sebisa mungkin kering luar dalam biar spec nya pas, sama diturunin dikit kek saran mbah suhu Rektor.
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marmut wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:03
gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:48
tugel itu apa Pak Marmut..,saya serch di google malah keluar paling atas judul lagu TUGEL by Anggun Pramuditia :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

itu, as kopelnya mbah delco hampir tugel karena keseringan dibalance.









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istilah baru neh buat saya.. perlu di catat :frm_salut:
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Omnibus wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:16
gentongxz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:44
pakai gasket crush..? saya spec toyota 38NM (28ft.lb)..,pakai yg torque jarum punya waktu itu masuk 27++ mau ke 28fb.lb..,kasih gasket crush..,jantung aja ampe deg2an pas mendekati 28 :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
berikutnya supaya ga deg2an minum viagr* dulu pak gentong





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indeskey wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:35
marmut wrote:
yanuarra wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:15
Kalo udah sesuai spec masa bisa tugel mbah?

antara tugel atau dol. dicoba aja.
ahir taun lalu saya bikin slek drain plug oil pan. spek minta antara 27~33 n.m (aluminum), saya kasih 25 udah blooong.... bautè muter-muter kaya komidi puter.
Saya juga pernah NUGELin baut gardan kuda besi yamahmut, itu yg bikin manual book motor entah mabok apa gimana, bolt oli mesin sama gardan sama torque nya di 20N.m padahal beda diameter ulir nya. Kalau baut oli mesin samping sih aman pake TW lippro ceklek, nah yg gardan nggak ceklek tapi losssss ewer2.

Skg kalau baut oli2an sebisa mungkin kering luar dalam biar spec nya pas, sama diturunin dikit kek saran mbah suhu Rektor.
benar Pak indesky..., sebisa mungkin kering seh.. kalo saya gak salah yha..,kalo pelicin perlunya di baut/mur baja..,kalo gak salah yha..
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gentongxz wrote:
indeskey wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:35
marmut wrote:
antara tugel atau dol. dicoba aja.
ahir taun lalu saya bikin slek drain plug oil pan. spek minta antara 27~33 n.m (aluminum), saya kasih 25 udah blooong.... bautè muter-muter kaya komidi puter.
Saya juga pernah NUGELin baut gardan kuda besi yamahmut, itu yg bikin manual book motor entah mabok apa gimana, bolt oli mesin sama gardan sama torque nya di 20N.m padahal beda diameter ulir nya. Kalau baut oli mesin samping sih aman pake TW lippro ceklek, nah yg gardan nggak ceklek tapi losssss ewer2.

Skg kalau baut oli2an sebisa mungkin kering luar dalam biar spec nya pas, sama diturunin dikit kek saran mbah suhu Rektor.
benar Pak indesky..., sebisa mungkin kering seh.. kalo saya gak salah yha..,kalo pelicin perlunya di baut/mur baja..,kalo gak salah yha..
Wah pak Gentong ngomongin pelicin lagi wkwkw...
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indeskey wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:46
gentongxz wrote:
indeskey wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:35 Saya juga pernah NUGELin baut gardan kuda besi yamahmut, itu yg bikin manual book motor entah mabok apa gimana, bolt oli mesin sama gardan sama torque nya di 20N.m padahal beda diameter ulir nya. Kalau baut oli mesin samping sih aman pake TW lippro ceklek, nah yg gardan nggak ceklek tapi losssss ewer2.

Skg kalau baut oli2an sebisa mungkin kering luar dalam biar spec nya pas, sama diturunin dikit kek saran mbah suhu Rektor.
benar Pak indesky..., sebisa mungkin kering seh.. kalo saya gak salah yha..,kalo pelicin perlunya di baut/mur baja..,kalo gak salah yha..
Wah pak Gentong ngomongin pelicin lagi wkwkw...
tapi sampai sekarang saya belum nemuin hand tool pelicin di posting Pak Indesky... :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:



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indeskey wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:46
gentongxz wrote:
indeskey wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:35 Saya juga pernah NUGELin baut gardan kuda besi yamahmut, itu yg bikin manual book motor entah mabok apa gimana, bolt oli mesin sama gardan sama torque nya di 20N.m padahal beda diameter ulir nya. Kalau baut oli mesin samping sih aman pake TW lippro ceklek, nah yg gardan nggak ceklek tapi losssss ewer2.

Skg kalau baut oli2an sebisa mungkin kering luar dalam biar spec nya pas, sama diturunin dikit kek saran mbah suhu Rektor.
benar Pak indesky..., sebisa mungkin kering seh.. kalo saya gak salah yha..,kalo pelicin perlunya di baut/mur baja..,kalo gak salah yha..
Wah pak Gentong ngomongin pelicin lagi wkwkw...
ha ha ha ha ha

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kalo cerita pelicin bisa ampe Part 04 neh.. :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
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Omnibus wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:56
marmut wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:56
cvt pake flywheel juga mbah? bukannya pake flexplate ya....

tul, enak kerja sendiri.
gaada yang iseng nyodok-nyodok cross joint sama exhaust tip pake gagang dongkrak....
ga enaknya kerja sendiri, kalo mesin gabruk kebawah gaada yang nolongin.
pake flexplate mbah .... spy gampang aja nyebutnya toh disitu2 juga

mesin gabruk kl ga pake akal sehat mbah ... kl cuma buka bawah ditopang balok sementara emon kiri kanan msh nempel n dlm keadaan bagus mana mungkin bisa gabruk.
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Otomania wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:44
Omnibus wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:56
marmut wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:56
cvt pake flywheel juga mbah? bukannya pake flexplate ya....

tul, enak kerja sendiri.
gaada yang iseng nyodok-nyodok cross joint sama exhaust tip pake gagang dongkrak....
ga enaknya kerja sendiri, kalo mesin gabruk kebawah gaada yang nolongin.
pake flexplate mbah .... spy gampang aja nyebutnya toh disitu2 juga

mesin gabruk kl ga pake akal sehat mbah ... kl cuma buka bawah ditopang balok sementara emon kiri kanan msh nempel n dlm keadaan bagus mana mungkin bisa gabruk.
Catetttttt

ini kloningan koh DOHC ya.... ngaku aja sebelum saya tembak grease cobra lewat mataharinya.