Cara Melestarikan Sistem Transmisi Manual

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Bagaimana sebaiknya model transmisi manual di masa depan?

Tetap dengan tuas & pedal kopling
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68%
Seperti pilihan 1, namun ditambah first start assist
6
11%
Kombinasi paddle shift & pedal kopling
3
5%
Paddle shift dengan torque converter (mirip shiftronic)
6
11%
Ide lain?
3
5%
 
Total votes: 57

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Re: Cara Melestarikan Sistem Transmisi Manual

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Saya malah pengennya CVT tapi pake kopling manual :D Males ngebejek gas, takut boros.
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Suka tidak suka, manual konvensional akan hilang di masa depan
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konvensional....

tanpa HSA, tanpa add-on apapun...

pure 3 pedal, clutch, brake, throttle...

(masih berharap pajero sport V6 MT atau toyota Mark X MT masuk indo)

belum pernah mrasakan V6 3.0 manual euyy :D
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Masih suka transmisi manual meski mobil di garasi uda matic semua. :mky_05:
Abis bawa matic, bawa manual kayak tangan dilepas dari borgol.
Tapi balik ke mobilnya lagi sih, ada juga manual yang ga enak dan malah ndut2an :big_bored:
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ripratama wrote:Cara paling ampuh utk melestarikan transmisi manual (utk mobil pribadi) adalah dgn menghilangkan macet.
Agree, kalo Jakarta macet tp gk parah pun gw merem 'minta' mobil manual dibanding matic, pas macet matic dibanding manual kerasa bedanya, terutama lebih gk stres
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Tetep dengan tuas dan pedal kopling kalo ane
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Yonatanw wrote:Masih suka transmisi manual meski mobil di garasi uda matic semua. :mky_05:
Abis bawa matic, bawa manual kayak tangan dilepas dari borgol.
Tapi balik ke mobilnya lagi sih, ada juga manual yang ga enak dan malah ndut2an :big_bored:
:mky_02: :mky_02:

Gue banget nih! Ini mah tipe tangan pecicilan, tiap nyetir pingin mindahin persneling mulu, jadi tangan kiri suka megang tuas gearbox.
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stevenanthony wrote:
arfs wrote:
stevenanthony wrote:
ane setuju banget sama ini. tuas transmisi + kopling konvensional tapi ada hsa nya. jadi ga perlu repot2 kalo di tanjakan, atau jalanan yang ga rata, kadang driver pengalaman aja masih ada mundur dikit mobilnya baru lgsg maju. :big_smile]
Setuju, tapi tambah rev-match downshift biar smooth waktu ganti gigi dan biar gk lock roda penggerak nya.
Udah gitu bikin awet gearbox juga pula sistem rev-match downshift.
iyah, kalo uda ada 2 tech itu apalagi harganya lebih murah manual, pasti peminatnya bertambah, yaitu orang2 yang pengen merasakan 'nikmat' manual tapi gak bisa/gak lancar bawa manual :big_smile]
Good. At least, HSA buat manual ada di mobil macam Etios yang cuma dipasarin 5MT :big_smile]
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B1335AM wrote:
Good. At least, HSA buat manual ada di mobil macam Etios yang cuma dipasarin 5MT :big_smile]
kalo gak salah brv udah ada hill start assist om CMIIW, waktu awal peluncurannya seinget ane baca ada hsa nya...

hrv juga ada, auto brake hold :mky_01:
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Kalo ga salah, brv nya harus yg prestige ya? Karena sodara saya beli yg E ga ada fitur itu. Cmiiw
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Oe prefer yg konvensional tanpa perlu gimmick macam2. Dan kalo bisa response DBWnya di bikin lebih cepat, biar sensasi manualnya lebih total..
Kalo at sih bodo amat, tapi kalo mt, response dbw besar pengaruhnya..
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di eropa manual shifting masih dominant n lengkap dgn kick clutch pedal

umumnya 6speed n ada engine start assist yg jamin mobil tdk lompat saat starting up lupa pressing down clutch pedal
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Kalau di Eropa masih banyak transmisi manual, betulkah di AS justru menunjukkan kebalikan trend bahwa transmisi otomatis lebih on viral (ngetrend)?
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B1335AM wrote:Kalau di Eropa masih banyak transmisi manual, betulkah di AS justru menunjukkan kebalikan trend bahwa transmisi otomatis lebih on viral (ngetrend)?
di US sekitar 1 manual : 4 auto perbandinganya, harga mobkas manual pun lebih jatuh.

manual supaya lestari?
1. Yg sebenernya kita (sangat) butuhkan dari auto adalah creeping nya pas macet. Kalau manual bisa ditambahin fungsi auto creeping sip dah.
2. Short throw / quick shift manual.
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:big_okay: :big_exellent:

OK, berdasarkan info Om Loopback, di USA menunjukkan trend transmisi otomatis lebih tinggi ketimbang manual, sementar di Eropa (termasuk UK) menunjukkan hal sebaliknya.

Dari mana itu infonya? Signifikan juga perbandingan. Apa hal ini berkaitan juga dengan kehidupan urban metropolitan di AS lebih banyak ketimbang di pinggiran / pedesaan?
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btw udah ada kah..yang mobil manual tapi koppingnya d tangan...jadi kyk mobil matic..d tuasnya kn ada tombol..pas dia pencet tombol berarti lg teken kopling..pas d lepas baru masuk giginya..jd ntr d tuas tranamisinya ada tulisan 1 smpe 5 (kalo 5 speed) dr atas k bawah...trus gigi mundurnya k atas..tp bener2 full manual..cmn mindahin kopling dari kaki kiri k jempol kiri...wkwkkwk....
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nekosaiyajin wrote:btw udah ada kah..yang mobil manual tapi koppingnya d tangan...jadi kyk mobil matic..d tuasnya kn ada tombol..pas dia pencet tombol berarti lg teken kopling..pas d lepas baru masuk giginya..jd ntr d tuas tranamisinya ada tulisan 1 smpe 5 (kalo 5 speed) dr atas k bawah...trus gigi mundurnya k atas..tp bener2 full manual..cmn mindahin kopling dari kaki kiri k jempol kiri...wkwkkwk....
kalo custom ada om, pasang aja easy clutch
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Biarkan apa adanya, say no to assist

Selalu ada manusia kayak ane yg penyuka teknologi jaman batu
Ikutan trend penghuni garasi:

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Saya tidak suka mobil manual.
Saya tipikal orang yang nyetir kaki kiri di jok seperti duduk di warteg, atau kaki kiri nyebrang ke jok nyubit betis penumpang sebelah.
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saya juga lebih suka manual. mengenai pas berhenti di tanjakan, biasanya ya pake handbrake utk minimalisir mundur dulu sebelum jalan. btw setuju sama om di atas tuh, respon dbw nya dibuat lebih responsif
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daftar wrote:
nekosaiyajin wrote:btw udah ada kah..yang mobil manual tapi koppingnya d tangan...jadi kyk mobil matic..d tuasnya kn ada tombol..pas dia pencet tombol berarti lg teken kopling..pas d lepas baru masuk giginya..jd ntr d tuas tranamisinya ada tulisan 1 smpe 5 (kalo 5 speed) dr atas k bawah...trus gigi mundurnya k atas..tp bener2 full manual..cmn mindahin kopling dari kaki kiri k jempol kiri...wkwkkwk....
kalo custom ada om, pasang aja easy clutch
nah itu bener .... EC itu sering di pasang di taxi taxi di korea trutama di kampung kampung
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selama mobil masih torsi kecil jelas manual paling menguntungkan untuk akselerasi dan tanjakan tapi kalau torsi udah 400Nm transmisi otomatis yg busukpun pasti keluar tenaganya
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solar_kerosen wrote:selama mobil masih torsi kecil jelas manual paling menguntungkan untuk akselerasi dan tanjakan tapi kalau torsi udah 400Nm transmisi otomatis yg busukpun pasti keluar tenaganya
Kalo torsi kingkong dikasih matic yg busuk ya powerloss akan banyak sekali boss......koplingnya selip2....shifting gak karu2-an
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kopling yang pake kawat harusnya udah ga ada lagi, semua mobil termasuk LCGC & niaga harusnya pake hidrolis
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ripratama wrote:Cara paling ampuh utk melestarikan transmisi manual (utk mobil pribadi) adalah dgn menghilangkan macet.
sy di kampung, mobil manual semua... xr matic (cvt?) juga diganti lio manual...
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