[help] grand livina vs rush vs grand vitara vs panther

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Setahu saya sih mobil GL kan kompresi 10,5 : 1
Memang sudah ada kkocking sensornya walau diisi premium bisa,
Pengalaman selalu diisi campur 50:50, begitu diisi 100% premium waduh mesin kasar, akhirnya balik lagi ke 50:50
Kalau perbandingan 50:50, 1 liter jadinya (11.000 + 6.000) / 2 = 8.500

Nah Kalau Panther sudah jelas terbukti minum solar apapun jalan mesinnya

Kalau mau dihitung benar benar sih tiap 5.000 KM

Panther : 5.000 KM = 500 l x 5.500 = 2.750.000, olie 50.000 x 5 l=250.000, filter olie 25.000, filter solar 30.000
Total = 2.750.000 + 250.000 + 25.000 + 30.000 = 3.055.000

GL : 5.000 KM = 460 l x 8.500 = 3.910.000, olie 40.000 x 3 = 120.000, filter olie 25.000, filter premium gak ada
Total = 3.910.000 + 120.000 + 25.000 = 4.055.000

Jadi 3.055.000 VS 4.055.000
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atmo wrote: He he aku kira lokasi di Jakarta, terus terang kl aku lokasi didaerah yang gak sering banjir & gak banyak jalan rusak sih pilih gl juga, Bisa dicoba test masuk ke baris ketiga dua-duanya dijamin kl badan gede susah geraknya. txs
jd klo sempit2 cuma muat 8 orang dong gl ama rush sob?
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Kalau dilihat dari jumlah penumpang tanpa melihat faktor yg lain

GL itu cocoknya
baris 1 : 2 dewasa
baris 2 : 2 dewasa & 1 anak
baris 3 : 2 anak
Total 4 dewasa + 3 anak

Panther itu cocoknya
baris 1 : 2 dewasa
baris 2 : 3 dewasa
baris 3 : 2 dewasa + 1 anak
Total 7 dewasa + 1 anak
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Profith83 wrote:Setahu saya sih mobil GL kan kompresi 10,5 : 1
Memang sudah ada kkocking sensornya walau diisi premium bisa,
Pengalaman selalu diisi campur 50:50, begitu diisi 100% premium waduh mesin kasar, akhirnya balik lagi ke 50:50
Kalau perbandingan 50:50, 1 liter jadinya (11.000 + 6.000) / 2 = 8.500

Nah Kalau Panther sudah jelas terbukti minum solar apapun jalan mesinnya

Kalau mau dihitung benar benar sih tiap 5.000 KM

Panther : 5.000 KM = 500 l x 5.500 = 2.750.000, olie 50.000 x 5 l=250.000, filter olie 25.000, filter solar 30.000
Total = 2.750.000 + 250.000 + 25.000 + 30.000 = 3.055.000

GL : 5.000 KM = 460 l x 8.500 = 3.910.000, olie 40.000 x 3 = 120.000, filter olie 25.000, filter premium gak ada
Total = 3.910.000 + 120.000 + 25.000 = 4.055.000

Jadi 3.055.000 VS 4.055.000
kllo gl gak bisa di paksain minum bensin ya?

masalahya di kota gw gak da yang jual pertamax

klo everest seken thn 2003, minum solarnya milih gak bang

sori OOT dikit :e-doh:
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Profith83 wrote:Setahu saya sih mobil GL kan kompresi 10,5 : 1
Memang sudah ada kkocking sensornya walau diisi premium bisa,
Pengalaman selalu diisi campur 50:50, begitu diisi 100% premium waduh mesin kasar, akhirnya balik lagi ke 50:50
Kalau perbandingan 50:50, 1 liter jadinya (11.000 + 6.000) / 2 = 8.500

Nah Kalau Panther sudah jelas terbukti minum solar apapun jalan mesinnya

Kalau mau dihitung benar benar sih tiap 5.000 KM

Panther : 5.000 KM = 500 l x 5.500 = 2.750.000, olie 50.000 x 5 l=250.000, filter olie 25.000, filter solar 30.000
Total = 2.750.000 + 250.000 + 25.000 + 30.000 = 3.055.000

GL : 5.000 KM = 460 l x 8.500 = 3.910.000, olie 40.000 x 3 = 120.000, filter olie 25.000, filter premium gak ada
Total = 3.910.000 + 120.000 + 25.000 = 4.055.000

Jadi 3.055.000 VS 4.055.000
Bro udh coba premium + ob bardahl belum? mumpung di shop& drive lg promo lho cuman Rp.15k dr smula Rp.30k mau beli satu biji atau berdus dus juga boleh he he. aku dah coba sih buat rush tambah maknyus lho, udh ditest di otomotif (lupa edisinya) hasil akhir premium+ob bardahl lebih ok dibanding pertamax. txs
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Di Surabaya beli dimana ?
Tepatnya toko/outlet shop & drive dimana kalau di SBY?
atmo wrote:
Profith83 wrote:Setahu saya sih mobil GL kan kompresi 10,5 : 1
Memang sudah ada kkocking sensornya walau diisi premium bisa,
Pengalaman selalu diisi campur 50:50, begitu diisi 100% premium waduh mesin kasar, akhirnya balik lagi ke 50:50
Kalau perbandingan 50:50, 1 liter jadinya (11.000 + 6.000) / 2 = 8.500

Nah Kalau Panther sudah jelas terbukti minum solar apapun jalan mesinnya

Kalau mau dihitung benar benar sih tiap 5.000 KM

Panther : 5.000 KM = 500 l x 5.500 = 2.750.000, olie 50.000 x 5 l=250.000, filter olie 25.000, filter solar 30.000
Total = 2.750.000 + 250.000 + 25.000 + 30.000 = 3.055.000

GL : 5.000 KM = 460 l x 8.500 = 3.910.000, olie 40.000 x 3 = 120.000, filter olie 25.000, filter premium gak ada
Total = 3.910.000 + 120.000 + 25.000 = 4.055.000

Jadi 3.055.000 VS 4.055.000
Bro udh coba premium + ob bardahl belum? mumpung di shop& drive lg promo lho cuman Rp.15k dr smula Rp.30k mau beli satu biji atau berdus dus juga boleh he he. aku dah coba sih buat rush tambah maknyus lho, udh ditest di otomotif (lupa edisinya) hasil akhir premium+ob bardahl lebih ok dibanding pertamax. txs
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Kalau gak ada pertamax, ada baiknya + vitamin seperti yang dianjurkan Pak Atmo atau ke bagian "Monza"
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Kalau di daerah yang penting Bengkel resminya deket GL nggak masalah. tapi kalau harus nempuh perjalanan 5 jam kayak di tempat saya,,wah mending di tunda aja.
duit 200 jeti tuh longgar kalau untuk milih milih boil bagus, inova juga dapet,panther juga dapet tahun baru bisingnya udah nggak ketara.
kalau ada pertimbangan resale , Inova sama Rush...kalau pakai nama besar Toyota di jamin deh .
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GL pake premium masih oke deh.. tetep paling hemat cost bbm sih terutama bagi yg hi-milleage usage..
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newbie wrote:
atmo wrote:
Sharing sebagai pemake rush:
- kl kenyamanan suspensi & kekedapan kabin gl paling ok
- stir rush paten gak bisa naikturun
- kl jalan rusak ama banjir rush jagonya secara pernah terjang banjir seban tetep ngacir
- baris ketiga rush ama livina sama saja sempitnya cocok buat anak-anak saja
- pake abs remnya sangat cocok utk medan jakarta yang angkotnya suka2x berhenti sembarangan
- headlamp udh proyektor jd kl ganti HID lebih ok fokusnya & gak bikin silau yang dari depan
- kacanya bisa ditekuk dr dalem, cocok banget buat kondisi hindarin mace lewat jalan tikus yng sempit he he
- bbm dalkot macet & lancar 10 sd 10.50 matol 9.50 sd 10, kl gl aku ndak tau tp diforum banyak yang bilang bisa 1: 14. Cuman temen kantor pake yang gl1.5 10.5 ampe 11 yang 1.8 9 ampe 10
- resale value rush mt s 07 Rp.160jt barunya 165.4jt gl xs mt 07 Rp.132jt (sumber otomotif)

di awal sempet nyesel ambil rush karena suspensi nya keras & gak bisa lari cepet, tp setelah liat konsumsi BBM gak beda jauh ama kondisi lalin jakarta yang banyak sungai dijalan (he he he)
thanks sharingnya sob :beer:

masa sih klo row ke 3 grand livina sama aja sempit nya ama rush?

o iya, mobilnya dipake di sumatra barat lho :D

bukan di jkt :D
Baris ketiga rush ama GL gak beda jauh kok, cocok buat anak2x, apalagi GL kalo penumpang dewasa masuk dan keluar ke bangku baris ketiga rada sulit karena desain atap GL lebih rendah.
Kalo tinggal didaerah lebih enak rush karena jalanan daerah gak semulus jakarta. tapi tergantung juga sih karena ngelibas jalan berlobang mungkin lebih enak GL karena lebih empuk tapi kalau lobangnya dah parah lebih aman rush lagi.
Tapi mungkin yang jadi bahan pertimbangan kalau didaerah ketersediaan Bengkel resmi.
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Innova E diesel ajah deh... :ngacir:
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ane tetep phanter touring.. :D

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newbie wrote:
Profith83 wrote:Setahu saya sih mobil GL kan kompresi 10,5 : 1
Memang sudah ada kkocking sensornya walau diisi premium bisa,
Pengalaman selalu diisi campur 50:50, begitu diisi 100% premium waduh mesin kasar, akhirnya balik lagi ke 50:50
Kalau perbandingan 50:50, 1 liter jadinya (11.000 + 6.000) / 2 = 8.500

Nah Kalau Panther sudah jelas terbukti minum solar apapun jalan mesinnya

Kalau mau dihitung benar benar sih tiap 5.000 KM

Panther : 5.000 KM = 500 l x 5.500 = 2.750.000, olie 50.000 x 5 l=250.000, filter olie 25.000, filter solar 30.000
Total = 2.750.000 + 250.000 + 25.000 + 30.000 = 3.055.000

GL : 5.000 KM = 460 l x 8.500 = 3.910.000, olie 40.000 x 3 = 120.000, filter olie 25.000, filter premium gak ada
Total = 3.910.000 + 120.000 + 25.000 = 4.055.000

Jadi 3.055.000 VS 4.055.000
kllo gl gak bisa di paksain minum bensin ya?

masalahya di kota gw gak da yang jual pertamax

klo everest seken thn 2003, minum solarnya milih gak bang

sori OOT dikit :e-doh:
Kalo pengalaman dari mobil2x operasional di tempat saya biasanya pakai everest, ford ranger, strada, dan double cab yg lain biasa dikasih solar biasa boss, tahulah didaerah mana ada solar yg bagus. yang paling sering diperhatikan filter solarnya harus sering dibersihkan kalo gak lama2x tenaganya loyo, dan juga harus sering2x drain karena kadang ada airnya :).
Tapi everest yang baru yang Tdci irit banget dan tenaganya mantap bro untuk menaklukkan medan lumpur.
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nescafe wrote:ane tetep phanter touring.. :D

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kalau saya GL....Panther... :roll: Yo wis...Panther aja :e-dance:
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Kalao saya pilih Panther saja, karena mobil pertama saya juga Panther :) hehehe kabur
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kalo gw pilih grand livina, tampang emang jelek tapi sebanding ama harganya yg murah, muat banyak, lumayan irit, 1.5ltr nya bisa pake premium..... hehehehehe tammpang nya dank yg lumayan, body samping ama belakang terlalu polos.... nissan kagak niat desain produk tuh hehehehehe mestinya kalo facelift nanti di variasi in dikit biar keliatan mewah dikit........
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kalo facelift ya yg tipe 1.8 jgn disamain dnk ma 1.5..masa eksterior cm bda ad foglamp ama handle crom..bumper nya modelin kek.uda bli hrg lbh mhl ttp sama..capek d..
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jadi, sang Thread Starter udah mutusin utk beli mobil yg mana nih ?
LAJUR KANAN... HARAP DISTERILKAN!

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sama bingungnya dgn TS nih.. mo tanya juga, untuk kec 100km/j, rpmnya rush dan livina brp ya? krn tiap hari PP 70 km, 70%nya tol....
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rush harusnya hampir 4k (gigi 5) deh..
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100 KM/jam kalau Livina, gigi 5 sekitar 3.000 an rasanya

Lah Wong TOP Speed nya bisa sampe 200 KM/jam :)
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livina bisa 200km/j? kenceng juga ya...
kalo gitu, rush di tol boros dong...
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kayanya FC Rush jadi ga terlalu lebar antara dalkot dan tol..
klo GL kayanya jauh antara dalkot dan tol, mirip FC sedan.
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saya juga lagi bingung nih..antara rush, livina dan grand livina..
pengen tahu akhirnya TS milih apa yach..
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avansa wrote:Kalau di daerah yang penting Bengkel resminya deket GL nggak masalah. tapi kalau harus nempuh perjalanan 5 jam kayak di tempat saya,,wah mending di tunda aja.
duit 200 jeti tuh longgar kalau untuk milih milih boil bagus, inova juga dapet,panther juga dapet tahun baru bisingnya udah nggak ketara.
kalau ada pertimbangan resale , Inova sama Rush...kalau pakai nama besar Toyota di jamin deh .

Ini ada berapa data Kompas. Harga baru

gl 1.5 xv at sekarang 187 jt, xv mt 179 jt

innova v at 270.1 jt, g at 239.3 jt, g mt 225.8 jt

dan rush s at 207.25 jt, s mt 193.25 jt, g mt 183.95 jt, panther semua di atas 200 jt

1 Agustus

Livina'08, Silver, Jok Kulit, Kaca Riben 3M,STNK JakSel,Tgn 1 H.165jt Nego.HP:081315396588

Innova G A/T,Hitam,Thn 07 Bln Februari,Euro 2,KM 48rb,189jt Terawat!! Hub:021-9348.7477

Innova V A/T'08 STNK Bln 2 Silver Tgn I Km.7000 Harga Rp.225Jt Hub:08161901991

25 july

Panther NewLM Extra'08MT kom plit Htm STNK 1th mls skl spt baru 169jt 0811-190500 u/pmki

Grand Livina XV 1.5 M/T 07 Htm Tgn1 pjk br, sensor park R.rack. 156jt ng 081317737763

Rush S AT'07,hitam met,pjk 1th ,nopil,ors cat,Option,antik,S.Pki ,Hrg.172,5Jt. Lotus 6543639.

Inova G W.Silver Met 06 KM 12 rb STNK Okt Knds Mls Lsg Pki 167Jt Nego TP 0811158708 Bks

18 july

Innova G M/T VVT-i 2008 Grey Met. kpt dasar, jok klt. Harga195jt. Hub: 0818400891.

Innova V A/T'08,Silver Tgn 1 Km.7.000 Harga 229Jt Hub. 0811133313 / 93765202

Kijang Inova V a/t' 06 bl.10 htm met,tgn1,km41rb 172,5jt ass all rsk 08121055458/4705990 jktm

11 july

Grand Livina SV 07 Htm M/T tgn 1,F.ori,srvc rec 145jt C/K Paskah 71399339-08567999785

Innova G M/T'2008 Drak Grey Tgn I Dari Baru Mls Sgt Trwt Harga 190Jt Hub:021-584 5742


Jadi urutan paling mahal innova v, g, panther, rush dan paling murah gl 1.5.

Selisih harga baru antara gl dan innova g sekitar 52 jt, selisih rush dan gl 1.5 sekitar 20 jt.

Tapi selisih bekasnya sama tahun 07 antara innova g dan gl (tahun sama) cuman 24 jt, dan selisih gl dan rush cuman 7.5 jt.

Dan kenaikan harga baru gl banding yang lain paling kecil sejak muncul krisis kurs waktu itu. Itu pun nilai gl masih bisa dekat ama innova, rush dan panther yang naiknya lebih banyak.

Jadi jelas, yang paling jamin nilai jual kembali paling kuat no1 adalah nissan, no 2 toyota, baru panther.