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Hansen wrote:
Shaqilla wrote:Semenjak punya Avanza 2004 yg lalu, gw males dah beli2 lagi mobil merek ToyoDa (Toyota Daihatsu).. qualitynya payah.. kecuali di kasih.. gak ada yg rekomen SX4 nih? mending cari mobil jepun yg dibikin di jepun daripada mobil jepun made in thailand/malaysia/china?? Livina belum mature tuh karena nissan regional yg develop kan?? lain kalo lu beli XTrail/Serena yg memang Jap's tech..
ada apa dengan Avanza-nya, Pak? :roll:

mmh...memangnya X-Trail & Serena dibuat di mana yah? :roll:
Xtrail , nissan generally... masih dibuat di jepang. But, feature dan keamanan semua dipegang europe quality. Karena Nissan saham terbesar dipegang oleh org France.
liat feature alarm, xtrail misalnya (yg sya tau) tidak ada horn/bunyi2an sama sekali, kek biem or mercedes. --- salah satu contoh...
utk kedepan nya, akan dipengaruhi oleh europe modification, baik dari feature dan safety.
so, tidak 100% jap's tech... jepun hanya sebagai pabrikan saja.

kalo salah, maap...
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xtrail... gw perhatiin lampu2 aja masi nissan - japan. livina gundul gak ada tulisannya :(
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soal kemampuan menembus banjir penting banget ya? avanza bisa kok menembus banjir setinggi satu ban, klo livina xr belum tau bisa ga nembus banji setinggi itu, mungkin bisa diliat posisi saluran masuk udaranya ada d mana.

sebenarnya klo kapasitas tempat duduk ga terlalu dilihat n jg soal banjirnya livina xr bisa jd pilihan, mesin livina spek sedan, tarikannya enak heheh...
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klo soal tarikan gw yakin avanza 1.5 jg mayan ok kok.

gw cuma ragukan kualitas dan daya tahannya
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klo tujuan utama untuk di daerah yg sering banjir.... cari taft independent ajah.... :D
wait ajah deh... klo sempet seh.. see :mrgreen:
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Mobil harga segitu nggak banyak pilihan kalo maunya baru, bro.
Waktu banjir gede februari 2007, gua naik Avanza. Satu ban OK.
Abis banjir naik Rush. Banjir sampe trotoar ilang masih OK.

Grand livina cuman nyoba duduk di mall, jadi nggak comment kecuali ruang kaki bangku deretan ke 2 sempit.
Untuk Rush automatic: bensin 1:12
Tenaga: tergantung driving style. Buat gua tenaga cukup. Sebanding ama Avanza.
Suspensi: lebih empuk dari Avanza. Tapi Terios suspensi belakang beda sama Rush katanya lebih empuk.

Saran gua:
Kalo beli mobil merek apa aja, pilihlah yang mobilnya juga dijual di eropa atau amerika atau jepang. Loe akan mendapat mobil yang didesign dengan baik luar dan dalem.

Jangan beli mobil yang cuma dijual di asia doang, apalagi cuma di Indonesia. Safety dipertanyakan. Kualitas rakitan parah. Peredam minim. Penampilan emang OK, tapi kenyamanan nggak diperhitungkan.
Avanza dan Rush dalemnya berisik. Panel-panel pada bunyi setelah 2 bulan dipake kayak mobil tua aja.


Beli bekas aja, Vitara taun 90an yang 4 wheel drive udah dipasang snorkel dan ditinggiin. Mantap abis.
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@tonie: ada gak yg taun 2000 an? susah bgt nyari di bandung yg masi bagus

@suckah: kalo buat gw Rush pasti memble tenaganya.

ga mau deh kalo Toyoda (toyota daihatsu).. bener kata bos... durability n kualitasnya agak meragukan (no offense buat owner)

apalagi gw biasanya pake corolla yg dari generasi ke generasi gw coba emang selalu awet n tahan banting.
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^^ rata2 mobil disel yg berusia dia tas 5th udah ga ada yg kondisinya super.... :D kecuali di beli dr baru untuk koleksi....

sama bro... di sini juga susah cari yg kondisinya mulus sekale... :D
wait ajah deh... klo sempet seh.. see :mrgreen:
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tonie wrote:klo tujuan utama untuk di daerah yg sering banjir.... cari taft independent ajah.... :D
weits! modif dikit bisa cross country... :D
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brp sekarang taft ya...? rasanya akhir2 ini jarang yg punya... or gue buta di jalan... :P
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pokoke kalo mau enak dipake untuk lebih dari 2 tahun gw akan hindari dulu ToyoDa mungkin nanti kalo kualitasnya udah bagus... kalo yg anti banjir mobil apa aja bisa tuh kalo mau di Alto-kan, hehehe..
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bremmbremm wrote:Gw mau beli mobil, sekitar 140 jt, yang agak tinggi, biar tahan banjir, maklum, sekarang kan lagi musimnya kebanjiran :capede: . Kira-kira mobil apa ya yang cocok buat gw? yang irit juga ya :lol: . Avanza, terios, or what?? :thanks:
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Turboman bener. Kantor baru beli banyak Panther.
145 juta mesin udah turbo diesel.
Wah tarikannya mantap. Udah gitu kalo emang bensin bakal naik, diesel bisa jadi primadona lagi.
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betul kalau duit 140 jt mau dapet :
1. tahan banjir
2. bensin irit
3. shock empuk
4. perawatan mudah dan murah


pilihan ada pada Panther ... beli yang baru yang tipe standart ... mungkin harga 150 an BARU LOH
sudah dapat mesin Turbo ... wah putaran rendah nyaman sekali ... TORSI maksimum di putaran 1800 RPM

Mobil baru sampai 3 thn belum ada perawatan yang berarti ...
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Plus getaran, suara berisik dan harga solar yang mendekati premium... dulu solar murah, makanya pake diesel katanya lebih irit.. sekarang?? secara km/L coba iritan mana Panther sama SX4? yakin tuh lebih nyaman dengan getaran dan suara mesinnya??
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Setuju kalau memang cuma untuk 5 seater ..

Tapi kalau perlu 7 seater atau malah 8 seater dan juga takut karena banjir ?

Jadi semua yah tergantung kebutuhannya
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Oooo.. butuh at least 7 seater toh?? sekalian Innova aja.. modif dikit di exhaust biar irit.. mesin modern n powerfull, kabin luas, built quality baik.. peredaman suara baik, suspensi empuk (limbung wajar karena tinggi).. 140jt bisa lebih flexible tuh nyari barang yg bagus walopun second (Type G/V) atau type E (mungkin bisa baru).. cobain dulu deh pake Innova, trus coba ToyoDa.. bedain rasanya..
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yg terakhir itu bener2 produk re-badge doang tuh, taste-nya jauh..
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Shaqilla wrote:Plus getaran, suara berisik dan harga solar yang mendekati premium... dulu solar murah, makanya pake diesel katanya lebih irit.. sekarang?? secara km/L coba iritan mana Panther sama SX4? yakin tuh lebih nyaman dengan getaran dan suara mesinnya??
Bukankah efisiensi adiabatik TurboDiesel jauh lebih tinggi dr mesin gasoline oom ?

Seiring makin mahalnya harga minyak bumi justru mesin Diesel makin terlihat superioritasnya.

Phanter vs. SX4 = Apple vs. Orange

SX4 ada versi Dieselnya juga kalo di Eropa, 1900 cc DDiS dgn 6 speed M/T, Kalo Panther mau dicompare ya lawannya TRavera gasoline...........heheheheheheh
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ealah... minibus ama hatchback kan beda tipe... hehehe!

sedih ya, hanya gara2 tidak ada solusi utk masalah banjir (terutama jkt) kita harus ngalah utk milih kendaraan...

mau ngerasa safe dan enjoy this life aja susah ternyata... :)
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terserah deh yg mau beli.. makin banyak pendapat orang lain, semakin pusying dia, hehehe.... pis bro.. kita cuma bantu kasih opini dan pengalaman aja kok...
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kalau 140 jt cari irit dan tahan banjir ..

Tahan bajir JELAS cari SOLAR dan tinggi
IRIT juga SOLAR karena nantinya BBM pasti naik hanya masalah waktu ...

nah mesin SOLAR yang tinggi dan murah ... yaitu PANTHER :) :) :)

Kalau Kijand D4D dengan spec yang sama beda 20 jt :) :) :)
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Murah, walaupun gede tapi BBM "saver" karena pake solar, nerobos banjir uenak tenan kayak minum jamu

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Shaqilla wrote:terserah deh yg mau beli.. makin banyak pendapat orang lain, semakin pusying dia, hehehe.... pis bro.. kita cuma bantu kasih opini dan pengalaman aja kok...
Sip, maka sesuai requirement dia Panther amat sgt layak utk dimasukkan ke dalam list, berhubung main objective-nya bisa nerjang banjir & irit.

kalau main objective utk speed & handling maka tentu Panther ga akan saya sarankan :D
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