New Grand Fortuner or Pajero Dakar Faselift (All 4x2)

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Dino_lowrider wrote:selagi mesin fortuner masih belon di betul betulin , alias masih mesin busuk , ane pilih pajero.
Definisi mesin busuk maksudnya apa yah ?

Soalnya udah terbukti 2KD-FTV itu bisa dipompa sampe 375 Hp / 700 an Nm tanpa ganti jeroan dalem, cuman mmg perlu ganti Turbo dan Nozzle.

Konon kalo 4D56 CRD itu mau maen di atas 300 Hp harus ganti baut Cyl Head (Cyl Head Stud), lucunya bautnya pake Toyota punya :mrgreen:

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maksudnya mesin standartnya memble.
Kalau ditambah turbo mah semua bisa di up tenaganya. gak cuma fortuner.

Lagian kan nggak semua orang berani memakai turbo tambahan om.
Rasanya jadi nggak perawan. hehehehe.......... :mky_01:
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Dino_lowrider wrote:maksudnya mesin standartnya memble.
Kalau ditambah turbo mah semua bisa di up tenaganya. gak cuma fortuner.

Lagian kan nggak semua orang berani memakai turbo tambahan om.
Rasanya jadi nggak perawan. hehehehe.......... :mky_01:
Semua Diesel Common Rail sudah dilengkapi Turbo dari pabriknya, nggak ada lagi yg NA kayak Diesel Kuda / Kapsul / Panther lama :mrgreen:

Hanya saja kalo 2KD-FTV std nggak ada Intercoolernya
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maksudnya bukan turbo bawaan om. tapi turbo ditambah2 gitu. misal ganti turbo dg spec lebih tinggi . tambah intercooler dll. hehehe
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Sore master2 diesel.. tapi beneran, kalo bukan gara2 modelnya gnf trd yang lumayan ngangkat ini, males gw beli fortie. Akhirnya gw taruh piggyback merk powerlab, downpipe, boost ctrl, air filter, nanti rencana ganti brake line & brake pad, trus next schedule mau ganti per & shock breaker, intercooler... haizzzzz!!! Waktu dan uang jadi korban. Masalahnya modelnya pajero gak abis sii.. jadi susah pingin milih dia. Toyota ini ya kok parah amat, mesin sejak 2004 ga berubah2.. menurut saya sih ga bisa milih ya, harus beli dua2nya atau tidak dua2nya.
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akulemu wrote: Toyota ini ya kok parah amat, mesin sejak 2004 ga berubah2.. menurut saya sih ga bisa milih ya, harus beli dua2nya atau tidak dua2nya.
Tunggu July besok, katanya 42ner VN Turbo akan keluar (katanya)
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Turboman wrote: Tunggu July besok, katanya 42ner VN Turbo akan keluar (katanya)
Iya pernah denger rumor yang sama di bulan yang sama, tahun lalu
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Turboman wrote: Tunggu July besok, katanya 42ner VN Turbo akan keluar (katanya)
Innova VNT juga (katanya) mau launching, mending innova vnt aja dah daripada fortuner VNT, mantap tenaganya
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Yah...tamat deh riwayat PS....mesti keluarin yg 300hp kali buat ngalahin jualan Fortuner :wkkk:
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nahh ini yg ane tunggu2... apalagi plus intercooler trus plus matic 5 speed... cakeppp...
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Turboman wrote: Tunggu July besok, katanya 42ner VN Turbo akan keluar (katanya)
Innova VNT juga (katanya) mau launching, mending innova vnt aja dah daripada fortuner VNT, mantap tenaganya
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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menarik ditunggu inova vnt nya
transmisi semoga upgrade jg, jgn 4speed lg.
suspensi limbung mata merem dah, nama besar toyota dan tenaga sadis dah lebih dr cukup..
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innova vnt?? kebayang dah harganya jadi berapa.... bisa2 yg type E doank uda 250jt++
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ngapain pusing-pusing :mky_03: beli HILUX 3.0 satu buah... kemudian beli fortie satu buah... bawak ke bengkel terdekat... tukeran mesin kemudian... selesai :big_weee: dapat fortie 3.0 4WD :big_weee:
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Mungkin mendingan tukeran bodynya...drpada resiko bongkar2 mesin.
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kalo VNT gitu kudu minum dex n pakai oli full sintetic gak?
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htannis wrote: Innova VNT juga (katanya) mau launching, mending innova vnt aja dah daripada fortuner VNT, mantap tenaganya
Rumor simpang siur sih banyak yah, bahkan ada yg bilang 42ner 3.0 D4 D segala

cuman kalo ane pribadi percaya yg paling make sense hanya 42ner 2.5 D4 D VN Turbo, sebab urgensinya sgt tinggi mengingat spec 42ner 2.5 D4 D udah sgt ketinggalan dibanding para kompetitornya & mengancam penjualan 42ner 2.5 D4 D

Ipah D4 D pake VN Turbo ? what for ? Ipah melenggang di pasar praktis tanpa saingan berarti......

42ner D4 D 3.0.......pajak mahal, dan konsumen mungkin ga sebanyak yg 2.5

Ibarat judi kartu, kartu2 cantik gak perlu dikeluarkan jika nggak dibutuhkan.......he he

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salah obat wrote:kalo VNT gitu kudu minum dex n pakai oli full sintetic gak?
Kalo mesin dgn VNT / VGT Turbo mmg lebih disarankan pelumas yg berkualitas yah, kalo bisa sih minimal Semi Synth

Sebab : boost VNT gede, Baling2 Turbo berputar kencang sejak dari RPM rendah, otomatis butuh pelumasan yg prima.
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Turboman wrote:Ibarat judi kartu, kartu2 cantik gak perlu dikeluarkan jika nggak dibutuhkan.......he he
Dalam hal ini pinter banget TAM wkwkwkwk....pesaing udah habis pelornya baru dia keluarin VNT.

Kalo dia mau genjot marketing bahwa Hilux juara 3 Dakar Rally dan Fortuner juga ikut finish....weleh...
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hilux dan ipah sesungguhnya sama aja kan??? ane si setuju sama bro turbo.... meningan casing ipah and hilux nya dilepas dr sasis.. trus kawinin dah... jadi aja hilux DC 2.5L rwd and innova 3.0L 4WD .. :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02: manteppp tenannnn... nikmatnya punya mobil ladder gitu ya?? bisa kawin2in....
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Turboman wrote:
htannis wrote:
Ipah D4 D pake VN Turbo ? what for ? Ipah melenggang di pasar praktis tanpa saingan berarti......

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Pak, secara keseluruhan (exterior, interior, mesin) enak dakar ato captiva? Dan rencananya setelah beli pingin modif (piggyback, dp, boost ctrl). Saya mau beli mobil gak jadi2 bingung 2 merk ini.

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Btw utk ningkatin kinerja 42ner D4 D dan PS Exceed dgn biaya ekonomis, bisa pertimbangkan Piggyback ECU Shop Cube yg harganya hanya 3,5 jt. (terpasang)

Dia ada 2 memory Map yg bisa diprogram sendiri sendiri, jadi bisa bikin Map Full Power dan Medium Power, tambah 1 By Pass (OFF)

Parameter MAP & MAF sensor serta Fuel Rail Pressure bisa di Re-Map secara individual. Buat Diesel dgn VNT / VGT Turbo, si Cube bisa maenin boost Turbo-nya.

kalo service ke BeRes tinggal di OFF kan saja, gak akan ketahuan, atau Cube bisa dilepas dan colok Donggle ke soket-nya

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Dlm gbr detail di kiri angka FRP Load, yg atas RPM, di atas 2000 RPM step tuning-nya dia bisa per 100 RPM !!

Percobaan di bbrp Ipah D4 D naiknya cukup signifikan juga, bisa 30 - 40 Hp. Cube applicable baik utk D4 D / 4D56 Di-D (PJS / Triton) / Ford TDCi, dll.

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akulemu wrote:menurut saya sih ga bisa milih ya, harus beli dua2nya atau tidak dua2nya.
Kl sy kejadiannya malah gak jd 22 nya hehehe... Coba2 chevy caPtiva akhirnya kepincut ambil yg 2.4 facelift prestige. Harga Otr banjarmasin 395 cashback 5jt.

Fitur fortie ada semua di ctv, harga lebih murah jauuh. Ntar kl ada rejeki br ambil fortie v sambil nunggu2 trailblzer di taun2 yg akan datang.
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Wah info om Turboman mantap sekali, btw dimana tuh yg jual dan pasang ECU Shop Cube?
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Turboman wrote:Btw utk ningkatin kinerja 42ner D4 D dan PS Exceed dgn biaya ekonomis, bisa pertimbangkan Piggyback ECU Shop Cube yg harganya hanya 3,5 jt. (terpasang)

Dia ada 2 memory Map yg bisa diprogram sendiri sendiri, jadi bisa bikin Map Full Power dan Medium Power, tambah 1 By Pass (OFF)

Parameter MAP & MAF sensor serta Fuel Rail Pressure bisa di Re-Map secara individual. Buat Diesel dgn VNT / VGT Turbo, si Cube bisa maenin boost Turbo-nya.

kalo service ke BeRes tinggal di OFF kan saja, gak akan ketahuan, atau Cube bisa dilepas dan colok Donggle ke soket-nya

Image

Image

Dlm gbr detail di kiri angka FRP Load, yg atas RPM, di atas 2000 RPM step tuning-nya dia bisa per 100 RPM !!

Percobaan di bbrp Ipah D4 D naiknya cukup signifikan juga, bisa 30 - 40 Hp. Cube applicable baik utk D4 D / 4D56 Di-D (PJS / Triton) / Ford TDCi, dll.

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kalo buat Dakar ga bisa ya om Turbo ? Atau peningkatannya gak begitu signifikan ?