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gmx wrote:Secara teori sih om, karena permukaan ban yang bersentuhan dengan permukaan jalan maka akan semakin buruk traksi di onroad, namun bagi saya ngga terlalu terasa beda ban MT dengan yg sebelumnya saya pakai ban AT, mungkin karena jam terbang saya dengan si bongsor ini makin tinggi, makin kenal karakter, makin tinggi kecepatan makin jaga jarak dengan mobil depan menghindari rem mendadak. Yg saya rasain dulu pake ban AT lari 160 masih enteng top speed 185, dengan ban MT entengnya sampe kecepatan 130 setelah itu megap2 merayap ke max 160, enaknya pede aja kalo mau jalan2 ke tempat2 eksotis. Jd pengen nyoba kalo pake ban HT bisa lari berapa ya..

Kalo ban2 extreme seperti simex ET, xtra grip, super swamper memang kalo dipake buat harian di aspal bakal cepet abis, tp kalo ban2 MT rata2 mirip lah dengan ban2 biasa, bisa 3-5 tahun
ooo..

iya sih, kalo dari A/T ke M/T mgkn ga brasa drastis bedanya
secara teori, ban M/T memang sebenarnya ga didesain untuk aspal
kalo ga salah, ban M/T rata-rata speed ratingnya cuman Q (maks 160 kpj), ban A/T biasanya disekitar S (180 kpj) atau R (170 kpj) kecuali ban "mahal", kalo ga salah lagi, Michelin keluarin ban tipe A/T, serinya Latitude Cross yg speed ratingnya T (190 kpj)
Kalo yang ban H/T (ban SUV), biasanya speed ratingnya minimum S (180 kpj)

Kalo dari M/T ke H/T, pasti kerasa bedanya...kalo dipake di aspal, jelas handlingnya meningkat drastis, dan yang pasti "gerombolan tawon" nya yg biasa ngikut kalo lagi jalan, pasti kabur :D
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gmx wrote:Saya sih pake bridgestone dueler MT 31 di pajero saya, ada temen yg offroader, pake pajero juga dia buat mobil kota (versi dia) pake maxxis bighorn 32, dia bilang maxxis bighorn rasanya berat, dan kata dia juga dueler MT di lumpur lebih sakti daripada bighorn, dia pake bighorn karena dueler ga ada yg ukuran 32. Pernah dibahas juga di milis, banyak yg berpendapat untuk dipake sehari2, offroad dikit, dueler MT udah paling bener.. Itu semua katanya orang2 yang suka offroad yg sering muncul di majalah jip, saya sih belum pernah pake bighorn.. Kita tunggu penjelasan dari master billy alias anaklumpur..
Kalo Dueller MT paling lebar brapa inch om?
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31x10.5xR15 om
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gmx wrote:31x10.5xR15 om
http://www.bridgestone.co.id/06_product ... hp?kode=13

lagi naksir yang ini:
http://www.michelin.co.id/tyre/patternd ... itudeCross

tapi review belum nemu, barangnya pun ngga jelas :D



kalo yang ini sudah lumayan banyak review dan usernya

http://www.michelin.co.id/tyre/patterndetail/SUV/LTXAT2
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cokino wrote:Menurut Wiki :
1 = direct injection
5 = generasi mesin
B = seri mesin
F = 4 Valve/cylinder
T = Turbo charged
E = electronic controled injection

Aselinya nemplok di Toyota Mega Cruiser (Hummernya Jepun)

Menurut rumor :
Karena memakai 4 valve/cylinder maka ukuran valvenya lebih kecil dari mesin B yg lain karena itu valve nya lebih mudah patah/rusak.
Bisanya modifikator indo mengganti cylinder head 15B dgn 14B dan melepas ECU nya utk diganti dgn tipe mekanis biar lebih badak. Mungkin karena itu ya namanya jadi 15B-T. Hahaha...
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gmx wrote:Secara teori sih om, karena permukaan ban yang bersentuhan dengan permukaan jalan maka akan semakin buruk traksi di onroad, namun bagi saya ngga terlalu terasa beda ban MT dengan yg sebelumnya saya pakai ban AT, mungkin karena jam terbang saya dengan si bongsor ini makin tinggi, makin kenal karakter, makin tinggi kecepatan makin jaga jarak dengan mobil depan menghindari rem mendadak. Yg saya rasain dulu pake ban AT lari 160 masih enteng top speed 185, dengan ban MT entengnya sampe kecepatan 130 setelah itu megap2 merayap ke max 160, enaknya pede aja kalo mau jalan2 ke tempat2 eksotis. Jd pengen nyoba kalo pake ban HT bisa lari berapa ya..

Kalo ban2 extreme seperti simex ET, xtra grip, super swamper memang kalo dipake buat harian di aspal bakal cepet abis, tp kalo ban2 MT rata2 mirip lah dengan ban2 biasa, bisa 3-5 tahun
ooo..

iya sih, kalo dari A/T ke M/T mgkn ga brasa drastis bedanya
secara teori, ban M/T memang sebenarnya ga didesain untuk aspal
kalo ga salah, ban M/T rata-rata speed ratingnya cuman Q (maks 160 kpj), ban A/T biasanya disekitar S (180 kpj) atau R (170 kpj) kecuali ban "mahal", kalo ga salah lagi, Michelin keluarin ban tipe A/T, serinya Latitude Cross yg speed ratingnya T (190 kpj)
Kalo yang ban H/T (ban SUV), biasanya speed ratingnya minimum S (180 kpj)

Kalo dari M/T ke H/T, pasti kerasa bedanya...kalo dipake di aspal, jelas handlingnya meningkat drastis, dan yang pasti "gerombolan tawon" nya yg biasa ngikut kalo lagi jalan, pasti kabur :D
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Komen donh...tapi jgn pedes pedes ya...
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@GMX: tu majero udah dipake kompetisi blm????
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imsus2c wrote:
gmx wrote:31x10.5xR15 om
http://www.bridgestone.co.id/06_product ... hp?kode=13

lagi naksir yang ini:
http://www.michelin.co.id/tyre/patternd ... itudeCross

tapi review belum nemu, barangnya pun ngga jelas :D



kalo yang ini sudah lumayan banyak review dan usernya

http://www.michelin.co.id/tyre/patterndetail/SUV/LTXAT2
Sipp.. Makasi ya atas infonya.. Sementara BS ada di top list deh.. Nunggu bonus bulan depan.. :)
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mau bertanya mohon pencerahannya: jip 4x4 yg harganya sekitar 25 jt ap y????? buat perkebunan kopi and teh,,,,,,
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eterna 4G63T AWD k4ng..



di kebon kopi bisa..

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kebon singkong juga bisa

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kebon sawit bisa..

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becek2an juga ok..

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wakakakakakak.....








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Komen donh...tapi jgn pedes pedes ya...
temennya kerong-kerong nya Fiddoh nih..
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hmm...liat aksi galant VR4 jd inget pembalap Kenjiro Shinozuka....
itu orang masih idup gak ya..? :e-think:
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@ gmx: sy cari2 yg awd pada ga tau,,,, rata bilangnya ''yg muternya depan''
btw sy jg lg kepincut eterna,, mknya hunting2,,,,
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@gmx: boleh juga tuh ya eterna VR4... bisa off road di kebun kelapa sawit, kopi dan singkong.... ngebut pulak... mitsu emang gak ada pelannya dah....










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ehemm,,, sy bingung bedanya 4wd sama awd,,,,, trus bedanya lsd,diflok,torsen,dlll

mohon pencerahannya,,,,,,,,,,
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pgn 4x4 yg std nya ga memble,, tp murahh,,,, jimny terasa kurang,,,
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alasan jimny terasa kurang itu kenapa kang ?
apakah sebelumnya ente udah pengalaman offroad dng jimny ? :D
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Met pagiiii...

Mohon info dari sm'ers mengenai ban Simex Extreme Trekker 2 ukuran 36x11,5 R15.
Apa benar simex type ini kurang/kalah agresif dibanding extreme trekker ditrek lumpur/basah ?
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jalu wrote:alasan jimny terasa kurang itu kenapa kang ?
apakah sebelumnya ente udah pengalaman offroad dng jimny ? :D
itu mesin kan sama sepeti carry 1.0 karbu yg dipake angkot kan???????
walau sy blm pnh oprut make jimny tp ya sepertinya berasa kurang aj karna cm 1.0L karbu pula
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oprut dulu ahh..... yiiiihhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa................... sikat truzzz......


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ak4ng wrote:oprut dulu ahh..... yiiiihhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa................... sikat truzzz......


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JAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH....

Sgitu dibilang oprud? Kumaha si Ak4ng mah.. Nih oprud K4ng.. For the real jip only.
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ane si belum sangup ampe segitu mah.... masih sekolah... baru sampe kelas oprut rwd doank...
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ak4ng wrote:ane si belum sangup ampe segitu mah.... masih sekolah... baru sampe kelas oprut rwd doank...
Amiiiin K4ng..

Oprud2an is okay, yang penting spiritnya.. tapi jangan diceburin ke sungai kek yang poto pertama y, jamin bubar tu klistrikan..

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